The OLDER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

[P F Tinmore]

The professor has a basic arithmetic mistake,
Arabs have started the war more than a 100 years ago.

Violence and pogroms against Palestinian Jews preceded Zionism and the mandate.

That would be about 1890. What happened before then?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

This is crazy. Israel won both wars. They are the victors they get the spoils. Is the US returning Cali and Texas to Mexico? Land grab has frequently been the result of war where the winners grab the land. We need to stop using emotions in these debates and start using logic.

 

[rylah]

The professor has a basic arithmetic mistake,
Arabs have started the war more than a 100 years ago.

Violence and pogroms against Palestinian Jews preceded Zionism and the mandate.

That would be about 1890. What happened before then?

Boldly about numbers shows You're an impotent debater,
that's why anti-Israelis run like scared duck from facts.

Arabs have systematically expelled and murdered Palestinian Jews,
before Zionist immigrations and the mandate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The professor has a basic arithmetic mistake,
Arabs have started the war more than a 100 years ago.

Violence and pogroms against Palestinian Jews preceded Zionism and the mandate.

That would be about 1890. What happened before then?

Boldly about numbers shows You're an impotent debater,
that's why anti-Israelis run like scared duck from facts.

Arabs have systematically expelled and murdered Palestinian Jews,
before Zionist immigrations and the mandate.

Which Arabs?

 

[rylah]

The professor has a basic arithmetic mistake,
Arabs have started the war more than a 100 years ago.

Violence and pogroms against Palestinian Jews preceded Zionism and the mandate.

That would be about 1890. What happened before then?

Boldly about numbers shows You're an impotent debater,
that's why anti-Israelis run like scared duck from facts.

Arabs have systematically expelled and murdered Palestinian Jews,
before Zionist immigrations and the mandate.

Which Arabs?

The same Arabs who You pretend were peaceful towards their Jewish neighbors.
Arab war against Palestinian Jews has been going for decades, before the 1st Zionist immigration, and prior to the British mandate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[rylah]

.The Liar as Hero

"At best, Ilan Pappe must be one of the world’s sloppiest historians; at worst, one of the most dishonest. In truth, he probably merits a place somewhere between the two."

Here is a clear and typical example—in detail, which is where the devil resides—of Pappe’s handiwork...

 

[rylah]

The Legal Foundation and Borders of Israel
under International Law (Part 2)

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[rylah]

The expulsion of Jews from Arab and Muslim countries

 

[Sixties Fan]

I Was Robbed of 70% of the Land of Israel

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Conquered persons go into exile. Yes.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Corbyn praises universities and institutions from 1945-48 Mandate Palestine - pretending they were Arab! (video) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

120th Anniversary of Second Zionist Congress Celebrated With Constructive Campaign

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Sixties Fan]

Nothing but another invented quote to the founders of Israel.

Here are some real quotes by Menahem Begin:

Menachem Begin Quotes - BrainyQuote

Menachem Begin - Wikiquote

TOP 17 QUOTES BY MENACHEM BEGIN | A-Z Quotes



All else....is Jew hatred Bull SSSSSHHHH

 

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[Sixties Fan]

A documentary made by a "Palestinian" giving the Arab Muslim version of history. how nice.
You had already posted it before.

It is no more true now, then it was when she directed it, or when you posted it.

So WHAT if there were more Arabs then others living in the Mandate for Palestine.

Does it make the Arabs the rightful owners of the land? No
Any more than it makes any European or Asian the rightful owner of any of the conquered New World.

From the 7th Century to the end of WWI, the Muslims conquered and populated other people's lands. It does not make them the Indigenous people of those lands, nor does it give them the right to those lands if any of the indigenous people manage to take back any of it.

Arabs did not invade and conquer any of those lands, they simply followed later and multiply more.
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She is an Arab, indigenous of the land of Arabia whose ancestors or parents happened to be in Jaffa when she was born. Were they there for centuries, since the conquest or later, or were they part of the many Arabs who moved to the region known as Palestine for jobs the Jews were creating between 1860 and 1948?

Maryse Gargour was born in Jaffa. She spent her childhood in Lebanon. She has both the Lebanese and French nationalities. She graduated from the Institut Français de Presse and completed her PhD in the Sciences of Information at the University of Paris II Panthéon. She has been a producer and a journalist at the Office de Radio-Diffusion-Télévision française in Beirut. She has worked at the International Council of Cinéma and Télévision, Unesco, Paris and has been a freelance journalist for foreign televisions in Paris.