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I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Yeah....hate to disagree with you...the last two sucked.......
Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Great stories nonetheless.
Well in the first movie, they introduced the time disruption which completely changed everything. Vulcan was destroyed, Kirik's father was killed. This left them room to do completely different things with the movies. Personally, I see a LOT of nods to the original series. The casting is excellent as well imo.
then you aint paying attention.....when robert orci told the people expressing displeasure to fuck off if you dont like it....he pissed a few people off....and the new director of this 3rd movie Justin Lin, is a long time fan,unlike Abrams who wasnt,he said he needed to get the other long time fans back in the audience,because he knew what they were talking about,and from what i understand he kinda made this movie more in the spirit of the original series,i havent seen it yet,but do you agree with that?....here is some fans talking about the new movies....many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Yeah....hate to disagree with you...the last two sucked.......
Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Really? I haven't heard any until now. And I do have exposure to a lot of ST fans because I have a business/hobby that takes me to comic and sci-fi conventions. not saying that you are lying, I'm sure that there are some, just surprised that I've never met one.
I love all three of them. The casting for this series was excellent.Yeah....hate to disagree with you...the last two sucked.......
by doing that he created his own star trek universe,hence why many core fans do not care for it....Abrams is a big Star Wars guy.....i bet if some directer changed Star Wars to make it the way he thinks it should have been....he would have a shit hemorrhage...there was no need for abrams to put them in a different timeline.....I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Yeah....hate to disagree with you...the last two sucked.......
Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Great stories nonetheless.
Personally, I though that was brilliant.
by doing that he created his own star trek universe,hence why many core fans do not care for it....Abrams is a big Star Wars guy.....i bet if some directer changed Star Wars to make it the way he thinks it should have been....he would have a shit hemorrhage...there was no need for abrams to put them in a different timeline.....I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Great stories nonetheless.
Personally, I though that was brilliant.
no,lucas created the stuff he can do what he wants.....im talking if someone else came in to direct and changed it the way he thinks it should be done....look how rick berman came in with Enterprise and changed many a thing that were already established,that show only lasted 4 years and received lots of shit from the fans,Berman did a lot of damage to the TV franchise....by doing that he created his own star trek universe,hence why many core fans do not care for it....Abrams is a big Star Wars guy.....i bet if some directer changed Star Wars to make it the way he thinks it should have been....he would have a shit hemorrhage...there was no need for abrams to put them in a different timeline.....I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......
Great stories nonetheless.
Personally, I though that was brilliant.
What, you mean like what Lucas did with the prequels?
The time disruption is one of the things I like about the movies. They are now not beholden to strict Trek lore. But you get to see how the characters each evolve and grow.I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Yeah....hate to disagree with you...the last two sucked.......
Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Great stories nonetheless.
Well in the first movie, they introduced the time disruption which completely changed everything. Vulcan was destroyed, Kirik's father was killed. This left them room to do completely different things with the movies. Personally, I see a LOT of nods to the original series. The casting is excellent as well imo.
I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Yeah....hate to disagree with you...the last two sucked.......
Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Great stories nonetheless.
Well in the first movie, they introduced the time disruption which completely changed everything. Vulcan was destroyed, Kirik's father was killed. This left them room to do completely different things with the movies. Personally, I see a LOT of nods to the original series. The casting is excellent as well imo.
Actually, the 'nods' to the original series are part of the problem. Instead of using this new timeline to come up with original stories, they decided to redo Khan for the second movie. Terrible idea.
I think the new movies are decent but I wish they'd be NEW movies and not constantly rehash old characters in a poor attempt to draw in fans of the old series/movies.
then you aint paying attention.....when robert orci told the people expressing displeasure to fuck off if you dont like it....he pissed a few people off....and the new director of this 3rd movie Justin Lin, is a long time fan,unlike Abrams who wasnt,he said he needed to get the other long time fans back in the audience,because he knew what they were talking about,and from what i understand he kinda made this movie more in the spirit of the original series,i havent seen it yet,but do you agree with that?....here is some fans talking about the new movies....many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Yeah....hate to disagree with you...the last two sucked.......
Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Really? I haven't heard any until now. And I do have exposure to a lot of ST fans because I have a business/hobby that takes me to comic and sci-fi conventions. not saying that you are lying, I'm sure that there are some, just surprised that I've never met one.
Why do many Star Trek fans consider the recent Star Trek reboot films to be inferior knock-offs and not worthy of the name despite their immense popularity? - Quora
by doing that he created his own star trek universe,hence why many core fans do not care for it....Abrams is a big Star Wars guy.....i bet if some directer changed Star Wars to make it the way he thinks it should have been....he would have a shit hemorrhage...there was no need for abrams to put them in a different timeline.....I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Great stories nonetheless.
Personally, I though that was brilliant.
many are not being that vocal because it has revived Trek to the point were they are talking about a new TV show,which will be in the original universe,which makes the core fans happy, and the novels are getting back to the frequency that they were........then you aint paying attention.....when robert orci told the people expressing displeasure to fuck off if you dont like it....he pissed a few people off....and the new director of this 3rd movie Justin Lin, is a long time fan,unlike Abrams who wasnt,he said he needed to get the other long time fans back in the audience,because he knew what they were talking about,and from what i understand he kinda made this movie more in the spirit of the original series,i havent seen it yet,but do you agree with that?....here is some fans talking about the new movies....many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Yeah....hate to disagree with you...the last two sucked.......
Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Really? I haven't heard any until now. And I do have exposure to a lot of ST fans because I have a business/hobby that takes me to comic and sci-fi conventions. not saying that you are lying, I'm sure that there are some, just surprised that I've never met one.
Why do many Star Trek fans consider the recent Star Trek reboot films to be inferior knock-offs and not worthy of the name despite their immense popularity? - Quora
I'm not denying that they exist, I'm just saying there aren't that many of them.
The time disruption is one of the things I like about the movies. They are now not beholden to strict Trek lore. But you get to see how the characters each evolve and grow.I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Yeah....hate to disagree with you...the last two sucked.......
Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Great stories nonetheless.
Well in the first movie, they introduced the time disruption which completely changed everything. Vulcan was destroyed, Kirik's father was killed. This left them room to do completely different things with the movies. Personally, I see a LOT of nods to the original series. The casting is excellent as well imo.
Love the interactions with all crew members.
Especially Kirk/Spock and Spock/McCoy.
many are not being that vocal because it has revived Trek to the point were they are talking about a new TV show,which will be in the original universe,which makes the core fans happy, and the novels are getting back to the frequency that they were........then you aint paying attention.....when robert orci told the people expressing displeasure to fuck off if you dont like it....he pissed a few people off....and the new director of this 3rd movie Justin Lin, is a long time fan,unlike Abrams who wasnt,he said he needed to get the other long time fans back in the audience,because he knew what they were talking about,and from what i understand he kinda made this movie more in the spirit of the original series,i havent seen it yet,but do you agree with that?....here is some fans talking about the new movies....many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Really? I haven't heard any until now. And I do have exposure to a lot of ST fans because I have a business/hobby that takes me to comic and sci-fi conventions. not saying that you are lying, I'm sure that there are some, just surprised that I've never met one.
Why do many Star Trek fans consider the recent Star Trek reboot films to be inferior knock-offs and not worthy of the name despite their immense popularity? - Quora
I'm not denying that they exist, I'm just saying there aren't that many of them.
Voyager had its moments....but they dropped the ball on that one,it should have been the best trek ever.....in a different part of the galaxy,they could have had all sorts of new beings and phenomena to throw at us,but except for a few episodes they were pretty lax overall....once again rick berman....The time disruption is one of the things I like about the movies. They are now not beholden to strict Trek lore. But you get to see how the characters each evolve and grow.I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......Hmm.. Then you might not like this one. The first if the new ones was pretty good, the second one was very good, this one is the best so far. But you have to like Star Trek though.
Great stories nonetheless.
Well in the first movie, they introduced the time disruption which completely changed everything. Vulcan was destroyed, Kirik's father was killed. This left them room to do completely different things with the movies. Personally, I see a LOT of nods to the original series. The casting is excellent as well imo.
Love the interactions with all crew members.
Especially Kirk/Spock and Spock/McCoy.
I love the way that the new movies stay true to the original characters, IMO, the casting was brilliant. Except for the vast difference in looks for Scotty, I recognize all of them.
many are not being that vocal because it has revived Trek to the point were they are talking about a new TV show,which will be in the original universe,which makes the core fans happy, and the novels are getting back to the frequency that they were........then you aint paying attention.....when robert orci told the people expressing displeasure to fuck off if you dont like it....he pissed a few people off....and the new director of this 3rd movie Justin Lin, is a long time fan,unlike Abrams who wasnt,he said he needed to get the other long time fans back in the audience,because he knew what they were talking about,and from what i understand he kinda made this movie more in the spirit of the original series,i havent seen it yet,but do you agree with that?....here is some fans talking about the new movies....many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......
Really? I haven't heard any until now. And I do have exposure to a lot of ST fans because I have a business/hobby that takes me to comic and sci-fi conventions. not saying that you are lying, I'm sure that there are some, just surprised that I've never met one.
Why do many Star Trek fans consider the recent Star Trek reboot films to be inferior knock-offs and not worthy of the name despite their immense popularity? - Quora
I'm not denying that they exist, I'm just saying there aren't that many of them.
I did see the trailer for that series, at least I think it was a teaser from ComicCon. Hopefully it will be better than Star Trek Voyager.
Voyager had its moments....but they dropped the ball on that one,it should have been the best trek ever.....in a different part of the galaxy,they could have had all sorts of new beings and phenomena to throw at us,but except for a few episodes they were pretty lax overall....once again rick berman....The time disruption is one of the things I like about the movies. They are now not beholden to strict Trek lore. But you get to see how the characters each evolve and grow.I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.many fans of Star Trek think these movies are just Trek in name only.....many are not happy with what abrams did with the franchise.....and i "chat" with many others in trek chat rooms to see this....and when robert orci basically told those people if you dont like it,tough shit....well he did not help.......
Great stories nonetheless.
Well in the first movie, they introduced the time disruption which completely changed everything. Vulcan was destroyed, Kirik's father was killed. This left them room to do completely different things with the movies. Personally, I see a LOT of nods to the original series. The casting is excellent as well imo.
Love the interactions with all crew members.
Especially Kirk/Spock and Spock/McCoy.
I love the way that the new movies stay true to the original characters, IMO, the casting was brilliant. Except for the vast difference in looks for Scotty, I recognize all of them.
many are not being that vocal because it has revived Trek to the point were they are talking about a new TV show,which will be in the original universe,which makes the core fans happy, and the novels are getting back to the frequency that they were........then you aint paying attention.....when robert orci told the people expressing displeasure to fuck off if you dont like it....he pissed a few people off....and the new director of this 3rd movie Justin Lin, is a long time fan,unlike Abrams who wasnt,he said he needed to get the other long time fans back in the audience,because he knew what they were talking about,and from what i understand he kinda made this movie more in the spirit of the original series,i havent seen it yet,but do you agree with that?....here is some fans talking about the new movies....Really? I haven't heard any until now. And I do have exposure to a lot of ST fans because I have a business/hobby that takes me to comic and sci-fi conventions. not saying that you are lying, I'm sure that there are some, just surprised that I've never met one.
Why do many Star Trek fans consider the recent Star Trek reboot films to be inferior knock-offs and not worthy of the name despite their immense popularity? - Quora
I'm not denying that they exist, I'm just saying there aren't that many of them.
I did see the trailer for that series, at least I think it was a teaser from ComicCon. Hopefully it will be better than Star Trek Voyager.
check this out......Voyager had its moments....but they dropped the ball on that one,it should have been the best trek ever.....in a different part of the galaxy,they could have had all sorts of new beings and phenomena to throw at us,but except for a few episodes they were pretty lax overall....once again rick berman....The time disruption is one of the things I like about the movies. They are now not beholden to strict Trek lore. But you get to see how the characters each evolve and grow.I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.
Great stories nonetheless.
Well in the first movie, they introduced the time disruption which completely changed everything. Vulcan was destroyed, Kirik's father was killed. This left them room to do completely different things with the movies. Personally, I see a LOT of nods to the original series. The casting is excellent as well imo.
Love the interactions with all crew members.
Especially Kirk/Spock and Spock/McCoy.
I love the way that the new movies stay true to the original characters, IMO, the casting was brilliant. Except for the vast difference in looks for Scotty, I recognize all of them.
many are not being that vocal because it has revived Trek to the point were they are talking about a new TV show,which will be in the original universe,which makes the core fans happy, and the novels are getting back to the frequency that they were........then you aint paying attention.....when robert orci told the people expressing displeasure to fuck off if you dont like it....he pissed a few people off....and the new director of this 3rd movie Justin Lin, is a long time fan,unlike Abrams who wasnt,he said he needed to get the other long time fans back in the audience,because he knew what they were talking about,and from what i understand he kinda made this movie more in the spirit of the original series,i havent seen it yet,but do you agree with that?....here is some fans talking about the new movies....
Why do many Star Trek fans consider the recent Star Trek reboot films to be inferior knock-offs and not worthy of the name despite their immense popularity? - Quora
I'm not denying that they exist, I'm just saying there aren't that many of them.
I did see the trailer for that series, at least I think it was a teaser from ComicCon. Hopefully it will be better than Star Trek Voyager.
That is correct but not all of what was wrong. Janeway was an awful character, and piss poor Captain. I really didn't like any of the characters. It was just terrible.
no,lucas created the stuff he can do what he wants.....im talking if someone else came in to direct and changed it the way he thinks it should be done....look how rick berman came in with Enterprise and changed many a thing that were already established,that show only lasted 4 years and received lots of shit from the fans,Berman did a lot of damage to the TV franchise....by doing that he created his own star trek universe,hence why many core fans do not care for it....Abrams is a big Star Wars guy.....i bet if some directer changed Star Wars to make it the way he thinks it should have been....he would have a shit hemorrhage...there was no need for abrams to put them in a different timeline.....I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.
Great stories nonetheless.
Personally, I though that was brilliant.
What, you mean like what Lucas did with the prequels?
Voyager had its moments....but they dropped the ball on that one,it should have been the best trek ever.....in a different part of the galaxy,they could have had all sorts of new beings and phenomena to throw at us,but except for a few episodes they were pretty lax overall....once again rick berman....The time disruption is one of the things I like about the movies. They are now not beholden to strict Trek lore. But you get to see how the characters each evolve and grow.I agree, these new movies seem to be more a spin-off of the Star Trek saga than a part of it.
Great stories nonetheless.
Well in the first movie, they introduced the time disruption which completely changed everything. Vulcan was destroyed, Kirik's father was killed. This left them room to do completely different things with the movies. Personally, I see a LOT of nods to the original series. The casting is excellent as well imo.
Love the interactions with all crew members.
Especially Kirk/Spock and Spock/McCoy.
I love the way that the new movies stay true to the original characters, IMO, the casting was brilliant. Except for the vast difference in looks for Scotty, I recognize all of them.
many are not being that vocal because it has revived Trek to the point were they are talking about a new TV show,which will be in the original universe,which makes the core fans happy, and the novels are getting back to the frequency that they were........then you aint paying attention.....when robert orci told the people expressing displeasure to fuck off if you dont like it....he pissed a few people off....and the new director of this 3rd movie Justin Lin, is a long time fan,unlike Abrams who wasnt,he said he needed to get the other long time fans back in the audience,because he knew what they were talking about,and from what i understand he kinda made this movie more in the spirit of the original series,i havent seen it yet,but do you agree with that?....here is some fans talking about the new movies....
Why do many Star Trek fans consider the recent Star Trek reboot films to be inferior knock-offs and not worthy of the name despite their immense popularity? - Quora
I'm not denying that they exist, I'm just saying there aren't that many of them.
I did see the trailer for that series, at least I think it was a teaser from ComicCon. Hopefully it will be better than Star Trek Voyager.
That is correct but not all of what was wrong. Janeway was an awful character, and piss poor Captain. I really didn't like any of the characters. It was just terrible.
well i just found out that Lucas had next to nothing to do with the latest movie since he sold the rights to disney.....once again...J.J.Abrams....so there you are....he fucked up 2 franchises....no,lucas created the stuff he can do what he wants.....im talking if someone else came in to direct and changed it the way he thinks it should be done....look how rick berman came in with Enterprise and changed many a thing that were already established,that show only lasted 4 years and received lots of shit from the fans,Berman did a lot of damage to the TV franchise....by doing that he created his own star trek universe,hence why many core fans do not care for it....Abrams is a big Star Wars guy.....i bet if some directer changed Star Wars to make it the way he thinks it should have been....he would have a shit hemorrhage...there was no need for abrams to put them in a different timeline.....
Personally, I though that was brilliant.
What, you mean like what Lucas did with the prequels?
Sure, Lucas can do what he wants. So can the directors making the Star Trek movies. And Lucas changed the way the Star Wars universe worked from the original trilogy, which pissed off a lot of fans of the originals, just like what you are describing with Star Trek. Just because it was Lucas doesn't mean the principle doesn't still apply.
i thought DS9 jumped up a few levels when Worf joined the cast.....then they had started a good story line....Voyager had its moments....but they dropped the ball on that one,it should have been the best trek ever.....in a different part of the galaxy,they could have had all sorts of new beings and phenomena to throw at us,but except for a few episodes they were pretty lax overall....once again rick berman....The time disruption is one of the things I like about the movies. They are now not beholden to strict Trek lore. But you get to see how the characters each evolve and grow.Well in the first movie, they introduced the time disruption which completely changed everything. Vulcan was destroyed, Kirik's father was killed. This left them room to do completely different things with the movies. Personally, I see a LOT of nods to the original series. The casting is excellent as well imo.
Love the interactions with all crew members.
Especially Kirk/Spock and Spock/McCoy.
I love the way that the new movies stay true to the original characters, IMO, the casting was brilliant. Except for the vast difference in looks for Scotty, I recognize all of them.
many are not being that vocal because it has revived Trek to the point were they are talking about a new TV show,which will be in the original universe,which makes the core fans happy, and the novels are getting back to the frequency that they were........I'm not denying that they exist, I'm just saying there aren't that many of them.
I did see the trailer for that series, at least I think it was a teaser from ComicCon. Hopefully it will be better than Star Trek Voyager.
That is correct but not all of what was wrong. Janeway was an awful character, and piss poor Captain. I really didn't like any of the characters. It was just terrible.
At least Voyager was about exploration, unlike Deep Space 9.
Of course, I pretty much stopped watching the shows after TNG. It's only because Fuller is making the new one that I'm really interested.
