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That's because you apply your standard selectively. The notion that all Western governments join hands and denounce humanitarian disasters whenever they appear is puerile; the West is either directly responsible for or financially supportive of some of the worst atrocities of modern times.
Frankly, I'm not familiar with how whatever we may define as "Islam" has filled in this side of the balance sheet.....unless Saudi Arabia is sending shipments of rice to Chad, and UN troop to Bosnia?
Frankly, I'm not familiar with how whatever we may define as "Islam" has filled in this side of the balance sheet.....unless Saudi Arabia is sending shipments of rice to Chad, and UN troop to Bosnia?
Rest assured, our troops show up wherever Muslims are being oppressed.
While I detest the Saudi government, it's interesting that you brought up their foreign aid:
Saudi foreign assistance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So basically if you call it a Western nation it's Western, otherwise it's not. Go it..It's also east of Marrakesh, as are most European capitals. "West" is anything west of the Urals that isn't part of Africa or the ME.
Double standards, that would be like simultaneously complainingThat's because you apply your standard selectively.
Charles and I were discussing the Islamic world's perceived failure to take care of its own. I incorrectly assumed that you were discussing the same thing.You seem to have missed the point.
Almost no Saudi Aid (or any Islamic Aid) is sent to any Country whose population is not primarily muslim, and no Islamic troops show up anywhere non-Muslims are being oppressed.
Let's not pretend as if this definition is simply something I made up.So basically if you call it a Western nation it's Western, otherwise it's not. Go it..
Not really. Perhaps the US should intervene internationally if it is attacked by another nation directly, or if a full-fledged genocide is occurring and no other country, movement, or international group seems able to stop it.Double standards, that would be like simultaneously complaining
The US has no right to interfere in other countries internal affairs
And
The US should stop atrocities in other countries
The US was purely interested in defending Western colonial interests, which is why America only began taking economic measures against the Japanese after their incursion into China. The West had investments in China and colonial holdings in nearby Southeast Asia that they felt were threatened by Japan's own imperialistic expansion. You'll recall that the world sat by and watched what happened in Nanking in 1937 without doing anything, just as it did for quite some time with Bosnia and Rwanda before finally reacting.Newsflash, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor because the Isolationist USA took strong steps to stop their atrocities in Asia.
Even though we are not the world's policeman.
You pretend that Russia being an East block country is something I made up.Let's not pretend as if this definition is simply something I made up.
I'd go one further. The US should only attack if attacked and when attacked should go full bore and wipe out the attackers. None of this PC "only target their military" BS - destroy their industry, their farms and their will to fight with massive carpet bombing and if necessary WMD's. Teach everyone to not attack the USA, but use the military only for our borders until we are attacked.Perhaps the US should intervene internationally if it is attacked by another nation directly, or if a full-fledged genocide is occurring and no other country, movement, or international group seems able to stop it.
I'd go one further. The US should only attack if attacked and when attacked should go full bore and wipe out the attackers. None of this PC "only target their military" BS - destroy their industry, their farms and their will to fight with massive carpet bombing and if necessary WMD's. Teach everyone to not attack the USA, but use the military only for our borders until we are attacked.
And BTW.. the U.S. didn't exist when those fucking animals had to be driven back during the Crusades.
Unfortunately, the nutters that adhere to Islam seem to be doing some seriously fucked up things. And I'm sure they are the quote unquote "1 percenters" But they sure do some fucked up shit.
It's not indiscriminate - we would only attack those who attack us.I'd go one further. The US should only attack if attacked and when attacked should go full bore and wipe out the attackers. None of this PC "only target their military" BS - destroy their industry, their farms and their will to fight with massive carpet bombing and if necessary WMD's. Teach everyone to not attack the USA, but use the military only for our borders until we are attacked.
Any regime that kills indiscriminately is an enemy of mine.
Failure to discriminate between the perpetrators of an atrocity and those who had nothing to do with it is, in fact, indiscriminate. What you describe is genocide according to the definition set forth in Article II of 1948's General Assembly Resolution 260.It's not indiscriminate - we would only attack those who attack us.
Almost no Saudi Aid (or any Islamic Aid) is sent to any Country whose population is not primarily muslim, and no Islamic troops show up anywhere non-Muslims are being oppressed.The Fund now contributes to the financing of 3750 projects in 71 countries, consisting of 41 African countries, 25 Asian countries, and five countries in other parts of the world.
-Saudi Fund For Development - SAMIRAD (Saudi Arabia Market Information Resource)
There are less than fifty countries in which Muslims constitute a majority of the population.
Middle East
Saudi Arabia pledged $1 billion in export guarantees and soft loans to Iraq. For Lebanon, it pledged a total of $1.59 billion in assistance and deposits to the Central Bank of Lebanon in 2006 and pledged an additional $1.1 billion in early 2007.[4] Of that aid, $500 million dollars were intended for reconstruction.[5]
Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal pledged to rebuild a village in northern Syria which was inundated when a dam burst in 2002, killing more than 20. Waleed's investment firm, Kingdom Holding Company, said it was to "reconstruct the entire village of Zeyzoun and all its infrastructure of water, electricity, telephone and sewage systems".[6]
After the Iranian earthquake, Saudi Arabia pledged more than $200,000 to the victims.[7]
Saudi Arabia is the largest provider of aid to the Palestinian people.[8] Since 2002, Saudi Arabia has given more than $480 million in monetary support to the Palestinian Authority, and has supported Palestinian refugees by contributing to the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). Through the Arab League it has provided more than $250 million for the Palestinians, and pledged $500 million in assistance over the next three years at the Donors Conference in Dec 2007.[4] Unlike aid from other nations, Saudi Arabian aid to Palestinians was not disrupted by the election of Hamas.[8]
[edit] South Asia
After the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and the resulting massive tsunamis, the Saudi government gave $30 million in aid to aid the victims, including a $5 million private donation by King Fahd (Saudis in total, including citizens, donated more than $80 million).[9]
In the aftermath of the 2005 Kashmir earthquake, Saudi Arabia donated over US$3.3 million, more than any other country,[10] and promised an additional $573 million, also the maximum amount of money pledged.[11] Saudi Arabia also provided 4000 pre-fabricated houses to Pakistan through the Saudi Public Assistance for Pakistan Earthquake Victims (SPAPEV). The houses, which were to be equipped with all required facilities, cost over $16.7 million.[12] The SPAPEV also distributed 230,000 blankets, 150,000 quilts, 10,000 ordinary tents, 2,500 special winterized water proof tents, 100,000 stoves, 100,000 food.[13]
The Saudi government pledged $230 million to development in Afghanistan. It has also pledged $133 million in direct grant aid, $187 million in concessional loans, and $153 million in export credits for Pakistan earthquake relief.[4]
The Saudi Joint Committee for the Relief of Kosovo used $5 million to finance projects in rehabilitation, foodstuffs, relief materials, educational and religious programs, sponsorship of orphans, health care programs and development. Freights from Jeddah took 400,000 liters of milk as well as 900 cartons of clothing, 1,000 blankets, 25 water cisterns, medical supplies and surgical appliances such as wheelchairs to Pristina.[15] Saudi citizens donated $20 million to Kosovo in cash as well as food and medical supplies, and the Saudi Red Crescent sent medical volunteers.[16]
In 2006, the Saudi government gave $10 million in aid to the horn of Africa, through the World Food Programme, of which Kenya received $2 million.[17] Saudi prince Al-Walid bin Talal donated $1 million to help feed 3.5 million Kenyans during the drought.[18]
There are many who view that Saudi aid is earmarked for Muslims and Muslim states. This view led a Saudi philanthropist to lobby the Saudi government to give £250,000 in aid used to purchase rice for Cambodian children.[2]
As far as mujahideen are concerned, most of the Islamic resistance movements that come to mind are guerrilla forces endemic to the countries in which they respectively fight.
It's not indiscriminate - we would only attack those who attack us.I'd go one further. The US should only attack if attacked and when attacked should go full bore and wipe out the attackers. None of this PC "only target their military" BS - destroy their industry, their farms and their will to fight with massive carpet bombing and if necessary WMD's. Teach everyone to not attack the USA, but use the military only for our borders until we are attacked.
Any regime that kills indiscriminately is an enemy of mine.
But we would not tie our own hands with PC nonsense. They start it they LOSE
End of story.
The second largest recipient of Saudi aid in 2006 was China. Along with Rwanda and Madagascar, they received over a quarter of all of the development funds given out that year.Yes, I suppose a Suadi Prince thew a riyal in the plate of a Venezualan Begger, or a pan handler in NYC.
Let's be real. ALMOST ALL of Saudi Aid goes to Muslim Countries
I'd advise against making the mistake of equating the Saudi government to "Islam."WOW........about $500,000 to purchase rice for non-Muslim Cambodians. Yes, Islam is generous....TO MUSLIMS.
I'm sure the Tutsi tribespeople and liberal Hutus who were protected by Muslims during the Rwandan genocide would enjoy hearing that.Yes, outside of Islam, Muslims don't give a flip about "the oppressed."
The second largest recipient of Saudi aid in 2006 was China. Along with Rwanda and Madagascar, they received over a quarter of all of the development funds given out that year.Yes, I suppose a Suadi Prince thew a riyal in the plate of a Venezualan Begger, or a pan handler in NYC.
Let's be real. ALMOST ALL of Saudi Aid goes to Muslim Countries
The Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia, Washington, DC, USA
Two Saudi relief planes carry aid to the Philippines
Second Saudi relief plane arrives in Sri Lanka
King Abdullah orders aid to refugees in Sri Lanka
[I'd advise against making the mistake of equating the Saudi government to "Islam."WOW........about $500,000 to purchase rice for non-Muslim Cambodians. Yes, Islam is generous....TO MUSLIMS.
[I'm sure the Tutsi tribespeople and liberal Hutus who were protected by Muslims during the Rwandan genocide would enjoy hearing that.Yes, outside of Islam, Muslims don't give a flip about "the oppressed."
Shit, Al Jazera must be desperate.So the Islamic terrorists are guilty of genocide?Failure to discriminate between the perpetrators of an atrocity and those who had nothing to do with it is, in fact, indiscriminate. What you describe is genocide according to the definition set forth in Article II of 1948's General Assembly Resolution 260.
