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You must be joking. What's next, you don't believe in Germs or Nuclear radiation? Parading ignorance around like this is really disillusioning in the human race.There has never been anyone with earthly technology been on the moon!
It is all staged.
OR give me any proof that there have been 'our' people on the moon.
How come people still believe there were people on the moon? unbelievable.
You can bounce a laser off the mirrors men placed on the moon.
It wasn't put there by men but by a sort of robots.
Also the lasers aren't really necessary at all, because they could do the same measeurementsi in 1962
There were radio broadcasts from the moon.
No, there were not:
There are some known Ham radio operators who attest to having picked up signals from Apollo (Paul Wilson, Richard Knadle, Larry Baysinger, Sven Grahn), but none of them can attest to having tracked these probes all the way to the moon and back. Grahn for example only testifies to having picked up signals from Apollo 17 when it was in earth orbit, when it was on the moon and in lunar orbit. He openly admits to not tracking it the whole way there and back. Baysinger only received communications from Apollo 11 during the alleged moonwalk, again not the way to the moon and back. Wilson & Knadle received signals from a diversity of Apollo missions2, but again only when the crafts were in lunar orbit – an exception being Apollo 15 in which they received a handful of signals on the alleged flight home. The two were quoted to saying: “The moon is always in view of two of NASA's primary tracking stations in Spain, Australia and California, but not so for the amateur. Some of the most exciting events and transmissions from the Apollo mission always seem to occur when the moon is below the horizon for the continental United States astronomer!”
Recently, Jarrah met with CSIRO professor Ray Morris, who as a kid received signals from Apollo 13 – but only during the time they were said to be in earth orbit.
In the nineties, David Percy contacted Jodrell Bank Observatory technician Robert Pitchard. He stated that they too only tracked Apollo when it was close to the moon, not the trip there and back: “The Moon probes were observed with a 50ft radio telescope which at the frequency used (2300MHz) had a beam width of 5/8ths degrees
In round terms this allowed us to pick up signals from up signals from up to about 1,000 miles above the moon’s surface, although small corrections had to be made to pointing as the probes orbited the Moon.
Voice signals (of good quality) were received from both the orbiting spacecraft and the Lunar Lander but television signals were only picked up from the spacecraft on the surface of the Moon. As we were not actively involved in the tracking of these spacecraft, we did not track them after they had left the Moon. And with regard to Apollo 10, I have no details of any observations, after all this time – the reason escapes me.”
And on the Russian side, for the most part the Soviets had relied heavily on Jodrell Bank just to track their own moon-bound spacecrafts because they lacked the capability to do it themselves (this was discussed in the BBC series, The Planets). Although later in the early 60s they were able to build deep space network tracking facilities with a 100million kilometre range, none of these radio telescopes were tuneable to the 2.3GHz (2300MHz) signals used by Apollo. Only at the last minute in November 1968 did they manage to equip their TNA-400* facility in Crimea with suitable receiving equipment.
And even then, because NASA did not supply them with the ballistics data, the Soviets were limited to listening to it during the time Apollos 8, 10, 11 and 12 were supposedly in lunar orbit.
* In Russian. Can be read using google translate.
Only the NASA Manned Space Flight Network can attest to having tracked these vehicles all the way to the moon and back. This Network comprised of Goldstone Tracking Station in California, the Madrid Deep Space Communications Complex, and various facilities in Australia; most notably Parkes Observatory, Honeysuckle Creek and Tidbinbilla. In the case of Parkes, it was (and still is) owned by the Australian government but was under control of and under contract to NASA during the time of the Apollo missions. It was NASA’s very own Robert Taylor who controlled the release of any data from Parkes during the Apollo 11 mission and his team were responsible for the reception, recording and transfer of audio, video and telemetry at Parkes. And on the subsequent flights technicians and engineers from NASA’s Tidbinbilla complex were heavily involved at Parkes. It’s essentially a fox guarding the hen house scenario.{/quote]
How does that prove the Americans did not place the mirrors there manually?Except that they ARE there, and can be used by anyone who has a powerful laser. Can you prove that they were placed there by some mechanism OTHER than a human placing them?
Russians have put lasers up there
The rovers Lunokhod 1 & 2 have put them there and one is still in use.
And the russian never claimed they have put men on the moon.
If they can do that, then the americans can have done that too, of course.
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Your own source states that they received broadcasts from lunar orbit. You're really grasping at straws here.
You have presented no evidence. Where are the individuals among the thousands that worked on the program who step forward to say their work was faked? A conspiracy this size cannot remain secret, and there is no one.How does that prove the Americans did not place the mirrors there manually?Except that they ARE there, and can be used by anyone who has a powerful laser. Can you prove that they were placed there by some mechanism OTHER than a human placing them?
Russians have put lasers up there
The rovers Lunokhod 1 & 2 have put them there and one is still in use.
And the russian never claimed they have put men on the moon.
If they can do that, then the americans can have done that too, of course.
It shows the possibility and there is NO PROOF we have send men to
that spaceship, so......
"Voice signals (of good quality) were received from both the orbiting spacecraft and the Lunar Lander"[
Your own source states that they received broadcasts from lunar orbit. You're really grasping at straws here.
Then you haven't read it carefully enough!
A conspiracy this size cannot remain secret, and there is no one.
"Voice signals (of good quality) were received from both the orbiting spacecraft and the Lunar Lander"[
Your own source states that they received broadcasts from lunar orbit. You're really grasping at straws here.
Then you haven't read it carefully enough!
The Moon rocks at the Smithsonian didn't just walk here by themselves. We have space shuttles, satellites and now, Virgin Galactic. All the millions of documents and film footage proving space flight IS possible. What proof do you require? Get over it. What ever that IS.You must be joking. What's next, you don't believe in Germs or Nuclear radiation? Parading ignorance around like this is really disillusioning in the human race.There has never been anyone with earthly technology been on the moon!
It is all staged.
OR give me any proof that there have been 'our' people on the moon.
How come people still believe there were people on the moon? unbelievable.
Well, I am not talking about germs or nuclear radiation at all.
This is sheer stupidity.
However, e.g. now you are at it, germs don't cause ilnesses,
Pasteur was very very wrong.But there was a reason for his lies.
And no, I am not disillusioned in the human race.
The Moon rocks at the Smithsonian didn't just walk here by themselves. We have space shuttles, satellites and now, Virgin Galactic. All the millions of documents and film footage proving space flight IS possible. Get over it.
Wow, how 1950's horror movies-ish, If you cross the Van Allen belt, there be monsters. Umm, this isn't 1956 anymore. And this isn't a high school debate to see who has better presentation. Thanks. Your point is lost and rather vauge. Care to explain why you ask this question?The Moon rocks at the Smithsonian didn't just walk here by themselves. We have space shuttles, satellites and now, Virgin Galactic. All the millions of documents and film footage proving space flight IS possible. Get over it.
Something is bothering you, right?
The moon rocks are fake. So, they don't prove a thing at all!
I never said we have no space shuttle etc. But they didn't go to the moon!
That is what I am saying.
The spaceshuttle etc stays under the Van Allen Radiation Belts.
So you are confusing some things here. I have never stated there is no spaceflight.
Nice try though.
Wow, how 1950's horror movies-ish, If you cross the Van Allen belt, there be monsters. Umm, this isn't 1956 anymore. And this isn't a high school debate to see who has better presentation. Thanks. Your point is lost and rather vauge. Care to explain why you ask this question?
Ridicule, yes. Clarify what your point was. Redefine.Wow, how 1950's horror movies-ish, If you cross the Van Allen belt, there be monsters. Umm, this isn't 1956 anymore. And this isn't a high school debate to see who has better presentation. Thanks. Your point is lost and rather vauge. Care to explain why you ask this question?
horror movies-ish? You clearly have no idea what I am talking about.
Monsters? high school?
I just see a strange attempt to ridicule.
Debunking presumes proof. If it can't be believed, it hasn't been debunked. That's the problem with these kinds of conspiracy theories. The proponents consider questions, no matter how outlandish, to be proof of something and no argument to the contrary to be proof of anything.Would you have believed it if the Soviets had debunked it?
Cite?Nasa recently even admitted they can't get past the Van Allen Belt.
Cite?Nasa recently even admitted they can't get past the Van Allen Belt.
