The Mask Mandates Did Nothing. Will Any Lessons Be Learned?

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The most rigorous and comprehensive analysis of scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of masks for reducing the spread of respiratory illnesses — including Covid-19 — was published late last month. Its conclusions, said Tom Jefferson, the Oxford epidemiologist who is its lead author, were unambiguous.
“There is just no evidence that they” — masks — “make any difference,” he told the journalist Maryanne Demasi. “Full stop.”
But, wait, hold on. What about N-95 masks, as opposed to lower-quality surgical or cloth masks?
“Makes no difference — none of it,” said Jefferson.
What about the studies that initially persuaded policymakers to impose mask mandates?
“They were convinced by nonrandomized studies, flawed observational studies.”
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What about the utility of masks in conjunction with other preventive measures, such as hand hygiene, physical distancing or air filtration?

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“There’s no evidence that many of these things make any difference.”
These observations don’t come from just anywhere. Jefferson and 11 colleagues conducted the study for Cochrane, a British nonprofit that is widely considered the gold standard for its reviews of health care data. The conclusions were based on 78 randomized controlled trials, six of them during the Covid pandemic, with a total of 610,872 participants in multiple countries. And they track what has been widely observed in the United States: States with mask mandates fared no better against Covid than those without.
 
There's an abundance of evidence that masks prevented the spread of Covid.

There's even laypersons' evidence in the fact that any attempt to cover sneezing and coughing has prevented the spread of disease for as long as we've known the germ theory! LOL

I'm so sorry to be the only Canadian on this board with an interest in popping your bubbles.

fkn goofballs.
 
The most rigorous and comprehensive analysis of scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of masks for reducing the spread of respiratory illnesses — including Covid-19 — was published late last month. Its conclusions, said Tom Jefferson, the Oxford epidemiologist who is its lead author, were unambiguous.
“There is just no evidence that they” — masks — “make any difference,” he told the journalist Maryanne Demasi. “Full stop.”
But, wait, hold on. What about N-95 masks, as opposed to lower-quality surgical or cloth masks?
“Makes no difference — none of it,” said Jefferson.
What about the studies that initially persuaded policymakers to impose mask mandates?
“They were convinced by nonrandomized studies, flawed observational studies.”
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Continue reading the main story


What about the utility of masks in conjunction with other preventive measures, such as hand hygiene, physical distancing or air filtration?

Questions about the pandemic​

Card 1 of 4
When will the pandemic end? We asked three experts — two immunologists and an epidemiologist — to weigh in on this and some of the hundreds of other questions we’ve gathered from readers recently, including how to make sense of booster and test timing, recommendations for children, whether getting covid is just inevitable and other pressing queries.
How concerning are things like long covid and reinfections? That’s a difficult question to answer definitely, writes the Opinion columnist Zeynep Tufekci, because of the lack of adequate research and support for sufferers, as well as confusion about what the condition even is. She has suggestions for how to approach the problem. Regarding another ongoing Covid danger, that of reinfections, a virologist sets the record straight: “There has yet to be a variant that negates the benefits of vaccines.”
How will the virus continue to change? As a group of scientists who study viruses explains, “There’s no reason, at least biologically, that the virus won’t continue to evolve.” From a different angle, the science writer David Quammen surveys some of the highly effective tools and techniques that are now available for studying Covid and other viruses, but notes that such knowledge alone won’t blunt the danger.
What could endemic Covid look like? David Wallace Wells writes that by one estimate, 100,000 Americans could die each year from the coronavirus. Stopping that will require a creative effort to increase and sustain high levels of vaccination. The immunobiologist Akiko Iwasaki writes that new vaccines, particular those delivered through the nose, may be part of the answer.



“There’s no evidence that many of these things make any difference.”
These observations don’t come from just anywhere. Jefferson and 11 colleagues conducted the study for Cochrane, a British nonprofit that is widely considered the gold standard for its reviews of health care data. The conclusions were based on 78 randomized controlled trials, six of them during the Covid pandemic, with a total of 610,872 participants in multiple countries. And they track what has been widely observed in the United States: States with mask mandates fared no better against Covid than those without.
Any confirmation bias will do...until you come across the conclusions in the Cochrane report.

Authors' conclusions​

"The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions"


So basically, they are saying..."we can't tell"....well, OK, until you CAN tell, I'll stick to the CDC guidance.
Feel free to follow your own guidelines.
 
Any confirmation bias will do...until you come across the conclusions in the Cochrane report.

Authors' conclusions​

"The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions"


So basically, they are saying..."we can't tell"....well, OK, until you CAN tell, I'll stick to the CDC guidance.
Feel free to follow your own guidelines.

You have no idea what confirmation bias means.

The CDC originally stated openly along with Fraudci said Masks are useless in the beginning in accordance with many research papers on masks over the years before COVID-19 a weak virus came along then they changed and even changed the DEFINITION of what a vaccine is and distorted what Natural Immunity is.

I have learned NOT to trust the CDC on everything.
 
There's an abundance of evidence that masks prevented the spread of Covid.

There's even laypersons' evidence in the fact that any attempt to cover sneezing and coughing has prevented the spread of disease for as long as we've known the germ theory! LOL

I'm so sorry to be the only Canadian on this board with an interest in popping your bubbles.

fkn goofballs.
You are a big fat liar. No cloth mask did anything to prevent the spread of the Kung Flu. I who spent time in the military and had Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) warfare training, knew many things that would not stop any of those.
One sure item that could stop a Biological attack....

 
Any confirmation bias will do...until you come across the conclusions in the Cochrane report.

Authors' conclusions​

"The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions"


So basically, they are saying..."we can't tell"....well, OK, until you CAN tell, I'll stick to the CDC guidance.
Feel free to follow your own guidelines.
And then you wonder why people call you an idiot...

 
You have no idea what confirmation bias means.

The CDC originally stated openly along with Fraudci said Masks are useless in the beginning in accordance with many research papers on masks over the years before COVID-19 a weak virus came along then they changed and even changed the DEFINITION of what a vaccine is and distorted what Natural Immunity is.

I have learned NOT to trust the CDC on everything.
"the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories"....You're welcome.

The CDC guidance, along with Dr Fauci's..changed. That's what happens when additional data becomes available in a fast moving pandemic.
 
And then you wonder why people call you an idiot...

Crow from your alt-right perch all you'd like..masks work. Now maybe we can quibble over the effectiveness of the type of mask worn...

 
Masks did nothing?



And, if they were only 20% effective, that is the percentage of of infections prevented by COVID.

MAny Asian countries have been wearing masks in public for years now. They were common among Asians in the Bay Area in the 1990's, long before COVID. In high population density areas they are probably still a good idea.
 
"the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories"....You're welcome.

The CDC guidance, along with Dr Fauci's..changed. That's what happens when additional data becomes available in a fast moving pandemic.

LOL,

you still don't understand since you failed to make a case for it and the CDC and Fauci had been in the medical business for many decades thus know about masks efficacy long ago which means they were LYING!

Your excuses are hilarious.
 

The Mask Mandates Did Nothing. Will Any Lessons Be Learned ?​


~ Unfortunately for a significant portion of society nothing will be learned or remembered. The same group will respond exactly the same for the next totalitarian infringement on human rights.
The outright lies and purposeful misinformation regarding mRNA vaccine safety and effectiveness, masks & bandanas, social distancing nonsense is now obvious — yet some insist on trusting the government regardless. :sigh2:
 
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You are a big fat liar. No cloth mask did anything to prevent the spread of the Kung Flu. I who spent time in the military and had Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) warfare training, knew many things that would not stop any of those.
One sure item that could stop a Biological attack....

I had NBCD training as well as training after it was changed to NBCW. But you're right again that no dust mask or medical mask would have helped in the gas chamber.

You might be able to make your case by contracting Covid and then go and cough in your child's or your wife's face?

I think most of you are members in good standing of the united states maroon corp.
 
You are a big fat liar. No cloth mask did anything to prevent the spread of the Kung Flu. I who spent time in the military and had Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) warfare training, knew many things that would not stop any of those.
One sure item that could stop a Biological attack....

Non of the masks did not even the N95
 
Masks did nothing?



And, if they were only 20% effective, that is the percentage of of infections prevented by COVID.

MAny Asian countries have been wearing masks in public for years now. They were common among Asians in the Bay Area in the 1990's, long before COVID. In high population density areas they are probably still a good idea.
There's an abundance of evidence that masks prevented the spread of Covid.

There's even laypersons' evidence in the fact that any attempt to cover sneezing and coughing has prevented the spread of disease for as long as we've known the germ theory! LOL

I'm so sorry to be the only Canadian on this board with an interest in popping your bubbles.

fkn goofballs.
Can you even read?
The most rigorous and comprehensive analysis of scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of masks for reducing the spread of respiratory illnesses — including Covid-19 — was published late last month. Its conclusions, said Tom Jefferson, the Oxford epidemiologist who is its lead author, were unambiguous.
“There is just no evidence that they” — masks — “make any difference,” he told the journalist Maryanne Demasi. “Full stop.”
But, wait, hold on. What about N-95 masks, as opposed to lower-quality surgical or cloth masks?
“Makes no difference — none of it,” said Jefferson.
What about the studies that initially persuaded policymakers to impose mask mandates?
“They were convinced by nonrandomized studies, flawed observational studies.”

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Mask mandates are nothing but another attack on America and Americans by democrats.

Mask do the opposite of what Democrats say. People touch contaminated surfaces then touch their Mask.

If Mask were good for Americans, democrats would do all they could to ban them.
 
Any confirmation bias will do...until you come across the conclusions in the Cochrane report.

Authors' conclusions​

"The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions"


So basically, they are saying..."we can't tell"....well, OK, until you CAN tell, I'll stick to the CDC guidance.
Feel free to follow your own guidelines.
You are a friggin sheep aren't you due for a booster?
 
Crow from your alt-right perch all you'd like..masks work. Now maybe we can quibble over the effectiveness of the type of mask worn...

No they don't and it has been proven give up you are a fascist
 

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