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Rand Paul advocates the abolition of all market regulation, the repeal of the clean air and water acts, the dissolution of the FDA and all police and fire departments, the end of paved roads and letting your infant starve to death if it can't raise its own capital?Rand Paul. But you're clearly right that most Republicans are socialist as well. Which is why I'm not one. I'm not a Libertarian because I don't believe a true libertarian would be the member of a party, even a Libertarian party. And the party and their endless litmus tests demonstrates that.Can you name any Republicans who aren't socialists?I agree with you, but in today's political environment can you actually name any major Democrat who is liberal but not socialist?
America is a socialist society and has been for some time.
Before bed tonight, and when you wake in the morning, be sure to thank a Wobbly.
A liberal is a champion of the downtrodded. This usually comes from experience with the government and had them help them when they were down and out on their luck, they want to have those programs around so when others are down on their luck, they will have somewhere to go.
A conservative wants to believe that someone is poor because they don't work hard or are losers. They want to ensure no one has any help whatsoever and uses religion as a backdrop to control people's lives.
But anyone who is smart enough to understand that without government programs, chaos would erupt. You would be a democrat. We don't have a lot of smart people in this country.
This is full of half truths. For example, actually he supports privatizing police and fire, not eliminating them. You're not a moron, but you're very smug and you need to actually pay more attention to what is actually said and discussed. I do like to banter with liberals and I know it's not productive. I just have fun when they are that extreme. But I know when I'm doing that. I also switch to serious when real points are made, unlike morons who's argument is that Republicans are racists. You don't seem to be aware. I do think you are capable of understanding those subtleties, like your next comment. But you don't seem to be aware or care that you're not really getting what people say.Rand Paul advocates the abolition of all market regulation, the repeal of the clean air and water acts, the dissolution of the FDA and all police and fire departments, the end of paved roads and letting your infant starve to death if it can't raise its own capital?Rand Paul. But you're clearly right that most Republicans are socialist as well. Which is why I'm not one. I'm not a Libertarian because I don't believe a true libertarian would be the member of a party, even a Libertarian party. And the party and their endless litmus tests demonstrates that.Can you name any Republicans who aren't socialists?
America is a socialist society and has been for some time.
Before bed tonight, and when you wake in the morning, be sure to thank a Wobbly.
True, but this is really only an intellectual word game. The term is really used for people who go first to government for solutions. As you say the Republicans sadly do that far to much as well.We are all socialists. Some of us just more so than others.
The term is really used for people who go first to government for solutions
hmm....and you object to MY arguments with liberals? You just like hearing yourself post, don't you?he supports privatizing police and fire
Awesome. Then the Crips can hire the police to arrest all the crackas for bein' cracka-ass honkies and not givin' their womens up for the raping
Privatized fire was tried some time ago. Read a history book to see why New York and the rest of the nation gave up that stupidity.
Funny how you nit pick sometimes and miss large gaping holes others. I was referring to the people in this country who are running to government for everything. I was not defining the term. Most of the government programs advocated in this country today are socialist. My God, you do like to hear yourself post.The term is really used for people who go first to government for solutions
Fail. Socialism originally referred to a stage of socioeconomic development following capitalism and preceding communism. It then came to mean any of a number of systems which might emerge during that period and share its defining traits. It then came to mean advocacy of such systems, especially when they are advocated as the ends rather than as a step towards communism. Today it stands as a blanket term encompassing everything from libertarian socialism to democratic socialism to anarcho-socialism.
People who turn to the State first for everything and elevate to god-like status because it can do no wrong are called statists.
Yeah, that wasn't really an unfair representation.Privatized fire was tried some time ago. Read a history book to see why New York and the rest of the nation gave up that stupidity.
I'm reminded of the scene in Gangs of New York where the two different firemen groups arrive at a fire at the same time, and end up fighting each other while the houses burns.
:yawn:Funny how you nit pick sometimes and miss large gaping holes others. I was referring to the people in this country who are running to government for everything. I was not defining the term. Most of the government programs advocated in this country today are socialist. My God, you do like to hear yourself post.Fail. Socialism originally referred to a stage of socioeconomic development following capitalism and preceding communism. It then came to mean any of a number of systems which might emerge during that period and share its defining traits. It then came to mean advocacy of such systems, especially when they are advocated as the ends rather than as a step towards communism. Today it stands as a blanket term encompassing everything from libertarian socialism to democratic socialism to anarcho-socialism.The term is really used for people who go first to government for solutions
People who turn to the State first for everything and elevate to god-like status because it can do no wrong are called statists.
Privatized fire was tried some time ago. Read a history book to see why New York and the rest of the nation gave up that stupidity.
Keep talking so people can see where the intolerance is in this country. You sir, have a serious issue. You can't debate points because liberalism is illogical and your policies don't work. They are emotional, emotions like hatred. Like what you preach. Read your posts.It only seems that way because the left is made up of those right wing "targets".
The Republican Party is 90% white. They are hostile to minorities. When those minorities fight back, the right says, "Look, see how hostile they are". Well yea. Everyone has a right to defend.
The Republican Party - 90% white, mostly Christian with a smattering of blacks and Hispanics.
The Democratic Party, while a majority is white, barely, included in those whites are people not welcome in the Republican Party, gays, feminists, college professors, scientists and so on. Then include the blacks, Muslims, Hindu, Hispanics, atheists and so on.
There is the difference between the two parties.
Facts were stated; that you choose to ignore them makes YOU unable to debate. Look up the facts yourself. Clearly you never do, but rely solely on your choice of talking heads to tell you all you need to know.
Bam! Now that's what I'm talking about. Using my own insult back on me. There can be no clearer you can say, "I've got nothing." I love when people do that. Anyway, have a good evening my friend, I gotta run now. I enjoyed the banter.:yawn:Funny how you nit pick sometimes and miss large gaping holes others. I was referring to the people in this country who are running to government for everything. I was not defining the term. Most of the government programs advocated in this country today are socialist. My God, you do like to hear yourself post.Fail. Socialism originally referred to a stage of socioeconomic development following capitalism and preceding communism. It then came to mean any of a number of systems which might emerge during that period and share its defining traits. It then came to mean advocacy of such systems, especially when they are advocated as the ends rather than as a step towards communism. Today it stands as a blanket term encompassing everything from libertarian socialism to democratic socialism to anarcho-socialism.
People who turn to the State first for everything and elevate to god-like status because it can do no wrong are called statists.
You type a lot of words, but you never say anything meaningful or intelligent.
Can you name any Republicans who aren't socialists?I agree with you, but in today's political environment can you actually name any major Democrat who is liberal but not socialist?You've described more a socialist example than a Liberal one.
Liberalism takes a laizze-fair approach- the poor starve because they need to so the better can succeed in the free market and make everything better. It's like economic eugenics.
America is a socialist society and has been for some time.
Before bed tonight, and when you wake in the morning, be sure to thank a Wobbly.
What are some of the Primary problems between Liberals and Conservatives today? What are Key differences and beliefs between the 2 groups and how are these issues addressed and taken?
What are negatives and positives of Liberals and Conservatives and how they deal with issues? Which group in your opinion seems to make better sense and more credible decisions when dealing with issues and Why?
Rand Paul advocates the abolition of all market regulation, the repeal of the clean air and water acts, the dissolution of the FDA and all police and fire departments, the end of paved roads and letting your infant starve to death if it can't raise its own capital?Rand Paul. But you're clearly right that most Republicans are socialist as well. Which is why I'm not one. I'm not a Libertarian because I don't believe a true libertarian would be the member of a party, even a Libertarian party. And the party and their endless litmus tests demonstrates that.Can you name any Republicans who aren't socialists?
America is a socialist society and has been for some time.
Before bed tonight, and when you wake in the morning, be sure to thank a Wobbly.
We are all socialists. Some of us just more so than others.
I'm satisfied with my fire department. My only real complaint is that they're underfunded, but that's not their faulty- that's city council and the mayor.Privatized fire was tried some time ago. Read a history book to see why New York and the rest of the nation gave up that stupidity.
Riiigggghhhht. And government has worked so well. I see why you can't give that up.
Government controlled retirement
, healthcare,
welfare state,
Overwhelmingly supported by the right. What dissent there is to be found is mostly on the Left.military intrusion into other's affairs,
A pet project of authoritarian social conservativesthe war on drugs
Socialism originally referred to a stage of socioeconomic development following capitalism and preceding communism. It then came to mean any of a number of systems which might emerge during that period and share its defining traits. It then came to mean advocacy of such systems, especially when they are advocated as the ends rather than as a step towards communism. Today it stands as a blanket term encompassing everything from libertarian socialism to democratic socialism to anarcho-socialism.Rand Paul advocates the abolition of all market regulation, the repeal of the clean air and water acts, the dissolution of the FDA and all police and fire departments, the end of paved roads and letting your infant starve to death if it can't raise its own capital?Rand Paul. But you're clearly right that most Republicans are socialist as well. Which is why I'm not one. I'm not a Libertarian because I don't believe a true libertarian would be the member of a party, even a Libertarian party. And the party and their endless litmus tests demonstrates that.
We are all socialists. Some of us just more so than others.
I do not think "socialists" means what you think it means.
