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Constant fantasy on the right that the Left is going to bail on Obama.
While this is a cool fantasy, and I would dearly love it to happen, it is not how they roll.
They stuck with Clinton from felony to felony. They defended him beyond the last ditch.
The same Barney Frank and Anthony Weiner.
They invest too much of themselves in their furhers to turn on them even as the whole edifice crashes around them.
You come on this board, and November 10,2012 the lefties on this board will still insist he was right and will still insist he won re election even if he looses every single state and DC.
Agree it's a fantasy about the left bailing on Barry. But some, not many, will although not in numbers near enough to affect the election outcome per se. However, his downfall could be when those non-votes are combined with independents and others who don't support him next go-round.
I believe his biggest problem will be voter turnout.
Call me racist if you wish....but it is not that I am racist....I just refuse to be politically correct in a debate.
The first time around....
Many voted who normally dont so they can be part of history and say they voted for the first black President.
Many youngsters voted who normally wouldnt becuase of the "wave" that was created. Obama was hip and the young got caught up in the election. To many of them, he is now nothing more than the establishment.
Finally whereas the democratic candidate will always get 90+ percentage of the black vote (be him/her black or white), I believe the turnout of black voters will be smaller than last time around as it is no longer a history making election.
I believe if voter tunrout is normal, Obama will be voted out of office.
I agree, "base" energy buys you 3-4% imho. add in those that get motivated outside the norm due to extraordinarily harsh conditions we are faced with now and perhaps will still be in effect come nov. 2012,*shrugs* he can rally the "base' all he wants the combination of the 2 the energy for one base being higehr and the bitter conditions, well, thats why this debt ceiling thing has to be a win, a big one he can carry for the next 15 months and that will resonate when he brings it up next year.
The reps job is to not poison their own well as in scaring off the indies etc......mobilize those that think they really want to cut and gets us back to some sensible fiscal place going forward ala jobs etc etc ..