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What has not worked?
The Robin Hood fallacy, the idea that you can rob the rich to give to those you deem more deserving (yourself.)
What does this have to do with Robin Hood?
Do you even know what you are talking about?
You propose robbing the rich on behalf of some unnamed poor.
Look it up, its called infrastructure based development. Very basic economics. Proved to work in the short run, and again proved to be harmful in the long run, unless supplemented with other economic reforms. A lot of other countries, including USA have tried and got positive results.
But again, who am I talking to....
ISIS, Venezuela, Obama..........
That should be enough for you people...
What you are attempting to describe is Keynesian stimulus. The efficacy of such programs is highly questionable. Porkulus was an utter failure, but the inherent fraud makes it questionable as to whether it qualifies as Keynesian stimulus at all.
Regardless, what you propose is the Robin Hood fallacy. To rob the rich as a means of funding infrastructure (or straight graft) necessitates the removal of capital from the circular flow, it is effectively a leakage and will retard production. This is why such a move is termed a fallacy by Keynesian economists.
As long as it pays to offshore that's what they will do.
But if there was a hefty duty on manufactured goods that were once made in the U.S. the jobs would return.
It was our elected representatives who passed laws permitting our economic elite to destroy the middle class. Blame them and remember on election day.
That has not happened in the past and will not happen in the future but I do agree with you for the most part. Ethanol and alternative energy are two cases where practically everyone but the producers feel that they are getting sodomized. Take solar Elon Musk is financing, by way of property liens, ground based solar in order to finance his space based goal of solar. If and when that second goal is reached a lot of people will have big bills to pay for their no longer fashionable roofing tiles. While Musk does not phrase it that way if you pay careful attention to his Space X claims that is what he intends.
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Yes, american style capitalism is colonial in nature. It has sodomized this society and is now moving on to greener pastures.
Ah, so grade school studies proved far too rigorous for you.
That has not happened in the past and will not happen in the future but I do agree with you for the most part. Ethanol and alternative energy are two cases where practically everyone but the producers feel that they are getting sodomized. Take solar Elon Musk is financing, by way of property liens, ground based solar in order to finance his space based goal of solar. If and when that second goal is reached a lot of people will have big bills to pay for their no longer fashionable roofing tiles. While Musk does not phrase it that way if you pay careful attention to his Space X claims that is what he intends.
I've never heard of space based solar so I can't comment. ( I can't imagine how power would be transmitted from PV's in space to earth)
I would imagine that by the time such a thing is operational all the warranty's on rooftop panels would be long expired and the panels dead or dying.
Who pays when the rich leave? Have you noticed that the rich are leaving and are taking their companies with them? Remember when Obomb touted the shovel ready infrastructure bullshit? Ask Flint how well that worked.
Hitlery has already told you that in order to build up the Pacific Rim, that jobs would necessarily HAVE to leave our country.
So ask yourself, why are jobs a bad thing for America but a really good thing for Asia?
Yes, american style capitalism is colonial in nature. It has sodomized this society and is now moving on to greener pastures.
So you never intend to work for a living?
2) The golden parachutes for the bureaucracy is in academia. This results in the oddity of Harvard being considered the best college in the country when by most metrics it is not even the best college in Boston. That honor goes to MIT. Harvard is best known tor its law and business schools. MIT is best known as an engineering school. Most bureaucrats are not engineers. Therefore a lot of propaganda to promote worthless degrees and massive student debt has created a huge drag on job creation.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what the above has to do with whether jobs are or are not coming back.
2) The golden parachutes for the bureaucracy is in academia. This results in the oddity of Harvard being considered the best college in the country when by most metrics it is not even the best college in Boston. That honor goes to MIT. Harvard is best known tor its law and business schools. MIT is best known as an engineering school. Most bureaucrats are not engineers. Therefore a lot of propaganda to promote worthless degrees and massive student debt has created a huge drag on job creation.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what the above has to do with whether jobs are or are not coming back.
Yeah well, that would be because there was no connection whatsoever.
Who pays when the rich leave? Have you noticed that the rich are leaving and are taking their companies with them? Remember when Obomb touted the shovel ready infrastructure bullshit? Ask Flint how well that worked.
Hitlery has already told you that in order to build up the Pacific Rim, that jobs would necessarily HAVE to leave our country.
So ask yourself, why are jobs a bad thing for America but a really good thing for Asia?
Rich people keeping their money in offshore accounts doesnt mean they are leaving, it means they are hiding their money, from you...
They aint leaving anywhere, they still enjoy the freedom, luxury and safety this country is providing them, and they will keep to do so...
The money staying in an offshore account aint gonna create any jobs for you, therefore has no good for you, dont fool yourself...
Who pays when the rich leave? Have you noticed that the rich are leaving and are taking their companies with them? Remember when Obomb touted the shovel ready infrastructure bullshit? Ask Flint how well that worked.
Hitlery has already told you that in order to build up the Pacific Rim, that jobs would necessarily HAVE to leave our country.
So ask yourself, why are jobs a bad thing for America but a really good thing for Asia?
Rich people keeping their money in offshore accounts doesnt mean they are leaving, it means they are hiding their money, from you...
They aint leaving anywhere, they still enjoy the freedom, luxury and safety this country is providing them, and they will keep to do so...
The money staying in an offshore account aint gonna create any jobs for you, therefore has no good for you, dont fool yourself...
Our brother is still a bit lost in the confusion of who exactly is bearing down on us, be patient and steady with him.
Who pays when the rich leave? Have you noticed that the rich are leaving and are taking their companies with them? Remember when Obomb touted the shovel ready infrastructure bullshit? Ask Flint how well that worked.
Hitlery has already told you that in order to build up the Pacific Rim, that jobs would necessarily HAVE to leave our country.
So ask yourself, why are jobs a bad thing for America but a really good thing for Asia?
Rich people keeping their money in offshore accounts doesnt mean they are leaving, it means they are hiding their money, from you...
They aint leaving anywhere, they still enjoy the freedom, luxury and safety this country is providing them, and they will keep to do so...
The money staying in an offshore account aint gonna create any jobs for you, therefore has no good for you, dont fool yourself...
Our brother is still a bit lost in the confusion of who exactly is bearing down on us, be patient and steady with him.
Your sister sees quite clearly. And knows exactly who is bearing down. It is an embarrassment that anyone could miss it since they announce their intentions. Globalists are working as quickly as they can to reduce us to rubble. Globalism is no respecter of party. Both collude to make Brussels our overlord.
I don't give a shit where rich people keep their money. Taxing the rich to give to the poor is a pretense. It does not make the poor rich, it makes the rich poor. It is the loss of work that is crippling this country. We have taxed businesses out of the US and they took their jobs with them.
OK here's a second way of putting the same thesis:
1) Entanglement with fast growing countries is profitable as with aerospace currently. Getting unentangled when they start to collapse as with China is very hard to do.
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
3) the leftover debris of past stimulus packages interferes with economic growth.
OK here's a second way of putting the same thesis:
1) Entanglement with fast growing countries is profitable as with aerospace currently. Getting unentangled when they start to collapse as with China is very hard to do.
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
3) the leftover debris of past stimulus packages interferes with economic growth.
1. Unexplained and unsupported.
2. Agreed. What do you propose?
3. Unexplained and unsupported. What of past stimulus packages, means that we can't renegotiate bad trades deals, and thus see an increase in manufacturing jobs?
OK here's a second way of putting the same thesis:
1) Entanglement with fast growing countries is profitable as with aerospace currently. Getting unentangled when they start to collapse as with China is very hard to do.
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
3) the leftover debris of past stimulus packages interferes with economic growth.
1. Unexplained and unsupported.
2. Agreed. What do you propose?
3. Unexplained and unsupported. What of past stimulus packages, means that we can't renegotiate bad trades deals, and thus see an increase in manufacturing jobs?
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
If students are being turned into debt slaves, how is it that the govt is paying for their education?
OK here's a second way of putting the same thesis:
1) Entanglement with fast growing countries is profitable as with aerospace currently. Getting unentangled when they start to collapse as with China is very hard to do.
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
3) the leftover debris of past stimulus packages interferes with economic growth.
1. Unexplained and unsupported.
2. Agreed. What do you propose?
3. Unexplained and unsupported. What of past stimulus packages, means that we can't renegotiate bad trades deals, and thus see an increase in manufacturing jobs?
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
If students are being turned into debt slaves, how is it that the govt is paying for their education?
In many ways.
The money streams from the governments to the colleges range from student loans, to research grants, to student aid, to direct funding, to numerous paths I'm sure don't even know about.
The ways that this stream of money gets and keeps students in college but does NOT result in usable skills and/or complete coverage of expenses are just as numerous.
The bias of regulation towards ever higher levels of certification, with little regard for expense is also a way the government contributes to the problem.
OK here's a second way of putting the same thesis:
1) Entanglement with fast growing countries is profitable as with aerospace currently. Getting unentangled when they start to collapse as with China is very hard to do.
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
3) the leftover debris of past stimulus packages interferes with economic growth.
1. Unexplained and unsupported.
2. Agreed. What do you propose?
3. Unexplained and unsupported. What of past stimulus packages, means that we can't renegotiate bad trades deals, and thus see an increase in manufacturing jobs?
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
If students are being turned into debt slaves, how is it that the govt is paying for their education?
In many ways.
The money streams from the governments to the colleges range from student loans, to research grants, to student aid, to direct funding, to numerous paths I'm sure don't even know about.
The ways that this stream of money gets and keeps students in college but does NOT result in usable skills and/or complete coverage of expenses are just as numerous.
The bias of regulation towards ever higher levels of certification, with little regard for expense is also a way the government contributes to the problem.
I'm pretty sure student loans have to be paid back and a lot of that is to private corporate lenders. Funding for research is not paying for kids to go to college at all, it is for research, and the govt is funding less and less of that over time than they used to. Ask any serious researcher who has to write grants for funding, it's seriously drying/dried up. I left a neuroscience drug discovery program at a major world renowned biomedical research university last April after 8 years there. They had partnerships with three major pharmaceutical companies and the Michael J Fox Foundation to fund their research. This is common. The big pharma industry has outsourced a lot of their early drug discovery efforts to university settings up to the drug development stage at which they then license the compound or molecule. I'm not sure how you came by the impression you have.
It's kind of difficult for me to figure out how we're supposed to be globally competitive with other advanced nations and societies that invest in their own societies when we won't. Other societies we would sneer "socialist" at make sure a college education is available to all. Other societies make sure health care is available to all. Because they hate our brand of predatory capitalism? Or perhaps because they understand that to be globally competitive they need an educated healthy population?
And how are our employers supposed to be globally competitive with foreign employers who don't have the healthcare costs of their workforce to contend with? And with much better healthcare outcomes for less cost?
OK here's a second way of putting the same thesis:
1) Entanglement with fast growing countries is profitable as with aerospace currently. Getting unentangled when they start to collapse as with China is very hard to do.
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
3) the leftover debris of past stimulus packages interferes with economic growth.
1. Unexplained and unsupported.
2. Agreed. What do you propose?
3. Unexplained and unsupported. What of past stimulus packages, means that we can't renegotiate bad trades deals, and thus see an increase in manufacturing jobs?
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
If students are being turned into debt slaves, how is it that the govt is paying for their education?
In many ways.
The money streams from the governments to the colleges range from student loans, to research grants, to student aid, to direct funding, to numerous paths I'm sure don't even know about.
The ways that this stream of money gets and keeps students in college but does NOT result in usable skills and/or complete coverage of expenses are just as numerous.
The bias of regulation towards ever higher levels of certification, with little regard for expense is also a way the government contributes to the problem.
I'm pretty sure student loans have to be paid back and a lot of that is to private corporate lenders. Funding for research is not paying for kids to go to college at all, it is for research, and the govt is funding less and less of that over time than they used to. Ask any serious researcher who has to write grants for funding, it's seriously drying/dried up. I left a neuroscience drug discovery program at a major world renowned biomedical research university last April after 8 years there. They had partnerships with three major pharmaceutical companies and the Michael J Fox Foundation to fund their research. This is common. The big pharma industry has outsourced a lot of their early drug discovery efforts to university settings up to the drug development stage at which they then license the compound or molecule. I'm not sure how you came by the impression you have.
It's kind of difficult for me to figure out how we're supposed to be globally competitive with other advanced nations and societies that invest in their own societies when we won't. Other societies we would sneer "socialist" at make sure a college education is available to all. Other societies make sure health care is available to all. Because they hate our brand of predatory capitalism? Or perhaps because they understand that to be globally competitive they need an educated healthy population?
And how are our employers supposed to be globally competitive with foreign employers who don't have the healthcare costs of their workforce to contend with? And with much better healthcare outcomes for less cost?
1. Well over 17% of borrowers are in default.
2. Funding for research is money going into the university system.
3. My understanding is that most other advanced nations severely limit college education though tracking. That's way you get so much pressure for their version of SAT tests in Japan and South Korea for example, because their entire life will be determined by that one test, and the government standards/rules for college admissions.
4. NOT by funding degrees that should not be college degrees, nor by graduating large numbers of lawyers and social workers and art majors.
OK here's a second way of putting the same thesis:
1) Entanglement with fast growing countries is profitable as with aerospace currently. Getting unentangled when they start to collapse as with China is very hard to do.
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
3) the leftover debris of past stimulus packages interferes with economic growth.
1. Unexplained and unsupported.
2. Agreed. What do you propose?
3. Unexplained and unsupported. What of past stimulus packages, means that we can't renegotiate bad trades deals, and thus see an increase in manufacturing jobs?
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
If students are being turned into debt slaves, how is it that the govt is paying for their education?
In many ways.
The money streams from the governments to the colleges range from student loans, to research grants, to student aid, to direct funding, to numerous paths I'm sure don't even know about.
The ways that this stream of money gets and keeps students in college but does NOT result in usable skills and/or complete coverage of expenses are just as numerous.
The bias of regulation towards ever higher levels of certification, with little regard for expense is also a way the government contributes to the problem.
I'm pretty sure student loans have to be paid back and a lot of that is to private corporate lenders. Funding for research is not paying for kids to go to college at all, it is for research, and the govt is funding less and less of that over time than they used to. Ask any serious researcher who has to write grants for funding, it's seriously drying/dried up. I left a neuroscience drug discovery program at a major world renowned biomedical research university last April after 8 years there. They had partnerships with three major pharmaceutical companies and the Michael J Fox Foundation to fund their research. This is common. The big pharma industry has outsourced a lot of their early drug discovery efforts to university settings up to the drug development stage at which they then license the compound or molecule. I'm not sure how you came by the impression you have.
It's kind of difficult for me to figure out how we're supposed to be globally competitive with other advanced nations and societies that invest in their own societies when we won't. Other societies we would sneer "socialist" at make sure a college education is available to all. Other societies make sure health care is available to all. Because they hate our brand of predatory capitalism? Or perhaps because they understand that to be globally competitive they need an educated healthy population?
And how are our employers supposed to be globally competitive with foreign employers who don't have the healthcare costs of their workforce to contend with? And with much better healthcare outcomes for less cost?
1. Well over 17% of borrowers are in default.
2. Funding for research is money going into the university system.
3. My understanding is that most other advanced nations severely limit college education though tracking. That's way you get so much pressure for their version of SAT tests in Japan and South Korea for example, because their entire life will be determined by that one test, and the government standards/rules for college admissions.
4. NOT by funding degrees that should not be college degrees, nor by graduating large numbers of lawyers and social workers and art majors.
OK here's a second way of putting the same thesis:
1) Entanglement with fast growing countries is profitable as with aerospace currently. Getting unentangled when they start to collapse as with China is very hard to do.
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
3) the leftover debris of past stimulus packages interferes with economic growth.
1. Unexplained and unsupported.
2. Agreed. What do you propose?
3. Unexplained and unsupported. What of past stimulus packages, means that we can't renegotiate bad trades deals, and thus see an increase in manufacturing jobs?
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
If students are being turned into debt slaves, how is it that the govt is paying for their education?
In many ways.
The money streams from the governments to the colleges range from student loans, to research grants, to student aid, to direct funding, to numerous paths I'm sure don't even know about.
The ways that this stream of money gets and keeps students in college but does NOT result in usable skills and/or complete coverage of expenses are just as numerous.
The bias of regulation towards ever higher levels of certification, with little regard for expense is also a way the government contributes to the problem.
I'm pretty sure student loans have to be paid back and a lot of that is to private corporate lenders. Funding for research is not paying for kids to go to college at all, it is for research, and the govt is funding less and less of that over time than they used to. Ask any serious researcher who has to write grants for funding, it's seriously drying/dried up. I left a neuroscience drug discovery program at a major world renowned biomedical research university last April after 8 years there. They had partnerships with three major pharmaceutical companies and the Michael J Fox Foundation to fund their research. This is common. The big pharma industry has outsourced a lot of their early drug discovery efforts to university settings up to the drug development stage at which they then license the compound or molecule. I'm not sure how you came by the impression you have.
It's kind of difficult for me to figure out how we're supposed to be globally competitive with other advanced nations and societies that invest in their own societies when we won't. Other societies we would sneer "socialist" at make sure a college education is available to all. Other societies make sure health care is available to all. Because they hate our brand of predatory capitalism? Or perhaps because they understand that to be globally competitive they need an educated healthy population?
And how are our employers supposed to be globally competitive with foreign employers who don't have the healthcare costs of their workforce to contend with? And with much better healthcare outcomes for less cost?
1. Well over 17% of borrowers are in default.
2. Funding for research is money going into the university system.
3. My understanding is that most other advanced nations severely limit college education though tracking. That's way you get so much pressure for their version of SAT tests in Japan and South Korea for example, because their entire life will be determined by that one test, and the government standards/rules for college admissions.
4. NOT by funding degrees that should not be college degrees, nor by graduating large numbers of lawyers and social workers and art majors.
If you ask me, I am against all infrastructure projects.
I don't need roads, rail roads, bridges nor airports to transport my goods to the market. Why would I care...
If anybody need any infrastructure in this country, it is definitely not the "unnamed poor", meaning the American lower class...
Let em fall apart, and lets see who will suffer at the end...
OK here's a second way of putting the same thesis:
1) Entanglement with fast growing countries is profitable as with aerospace currently. Getting unentangled when they start to collapse as with China is very hard to do.
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
3) the leftover debris of past stimulus packages interferes with economic growth.
1. Unexplained and unsupported.
2. Agreed. What do you propose?
3. Unexplained and unsupported. What of past stimulus packages, means that we can't renegotiate bad trades deals, and thus see an increase in manufacturing jobs?
2) The federal government is funding the education of people who will not get skills that are in demand.but will get debts that persist.
If students are being turned into debt slaves, how is it that the govt is paying for their education?
In many ways.
The money streams from the governments to the colleges range from student loans, to research grants, to student aid, to direct funding, to numerous paths I'm sure don't even know about.
The ways that this stream of money gets and keeps students in college but does NOT result in usable skills and/or complete coverage of expenses are just as numerous.
The bias of regulation towards ever higher levels of certification, with little regard for expense is also a way the government contributes to the problem.
I'm pretty sure student loans have to be paid back and a lot of that is to private corporate lenders. Funding for research is not paying for kids to go to college at all, it is for research, and the govt is funding less and less of that over time than they used to. Ask any serious researcher who has to write grants for funding, it's seriously drying/dried up. I left a neuroscience drug discovery program at a major world renowned biomedical research university last April after 8 years there. They had partnerships with three major pharmaceutical companies and the Michael J Fox Foundation to fund their research. This is common. The big pharma industry has outsourced a lot of their early drug discovery efforts to university settings up to the drug development stage at which they then license the compound or molecule. I'm not sure how you came by the impression you have.
It's kind of difficult for me to figure out how we're supposed to be globally competitive with other advanced nations and societies that invest in their own societies when we won't. Other societies we would sneer "socialist" at make sure a college education is available to all. Other societies make sure health care is available to all. Because they hate our brand of predatory capitalism? Or perhaps because they understand that to be globally competitive they need an educated healthy population?
And how are our employers supposed to be globally competitive with foreign employers who don't have the healthcare costs of their workforce to contend with? And with much better healthcare outcomes for less cost?
1. Well over 17% of borrowers are in default.
2. Funding for research is money going into the university system.
3. My understanding is that most other advanced nations severely limit college education though tracking. That's way you get so much pressure for their version of SAT tests in Japan and South Korea for example, because their entire life will be determined by that one test, and the government standards/rules for college admissions.
4. NOT by funding degrees that should not be college degrees, nor by graduating large numbers of lawyers and social workers and art majors.
I'm pretty sure student loans have to be paid back and a lot of that is to private corporate lenders. Funding for research is not paying for kids to go to college at all, it is for research, and the govt is funding less and less of that over time than they used to. Ask any serious researcher who has to write grants for funding, it's seriously drying/dried up. I left a neuroscience drug discovery program at a major world renowned biomedical research university last April after 8 years there. They had partnerships with three major pharmaceutical companies and the Michael J Fox Foundation to fund their research. This is common. The big pharma industry has outsourced a lot of their early drug discovery efforts to university settings up to the drug development stage at which they then license the compound or molecule. I'm not sure how you came by the impression you have.
It's kind of difficult for me to figure out how we're supposed to be globally competitive with other advanced nations and societies that invest in their own societies when we won't. Other societies we would sneer "socialist" at make sure a college education is available to all. Other societies make sure health care is available to all. Because they hate our brand of predatory capitalism? Or perhaps because they understand that to be globally competitive they need an educated healthy population?
And how are our employers supposed to be globally competitive with foreign employers who don't have the healthcare costs of their workforce to contend with? And with much better healthcare outcomes for less cost?
