The Imaginary Greatness of FDR

So what we need is a good war.

None of this namby-pamby shit we fight nowadays, but a real war with a real formidable adversay complete with a draft and rationing. I'm sure Americans will just love rationing.
 
FDR was by far the greatest modern president

He took a country from the midst of a Depression and turned us into an economic and military SuperPower

One can only imagine the horrible state we would be in if he listened to the Republicans

Did you check the numbers?

FDR US Unemployment 1932: 24.1%, 1933: 24.9, 1934: 21.7%, 1935: 20.1%, 1936: 16.9%, 1937: 14.3%, 1938: 19.0%, 1939: 17.2%. 8 year Average = 19.8%

Can you point to the year that 'he took a country from the midst of a Depression and turned us into an economic...SuperPower"
Yes, I looked at the numbers but this was the greatest depression this country had every faced. Maybe those numbers would have been better if FDR and congress wold have attacked the problem differently but they could have been a lot worse. What many people don't understand today is that there was real concern that there would be a public uprising, possibly a revolt against the government. When conditions get bad enough , hungry people will follow any person or ideology that promises relief. Both Communism and Nazism had a large following in the 30's. Today we view these movements much differently than people did at that time. FDR's fireside chats involved the people. The promise of new government programs which were more promise than action gave the people hope.
 
The economy recovered under FDR, the people who lived it KNEW he deserved the credit.

NOW a pack of political hacks desperate to defend their failed ideas in light of their failure are trying to SHUT UP the entire nation of that time by rewriting history.

You will not silence the people who lived through this with your lies about what happened.
 
FDR was by far the greatest modern president

He took a country from the midst of a Depression and turned us into an economic and military SuperPower

He did not turn us into an economic superpower. He thwarted it. His policies kept us in a depression year after year after year. We were pulled out of it by WWII.

One can only imagine the horrible state we would be in if he listened to the Republicans

Actually, FDR did listen to the GOP. His high tax economic policies were simply an extrapolation of what Hoover had already started. One of the causes of the Depression was when Hoover massively hiked up tax rates following the 1929 crash, thus stifling growth and turning the recession into a depression. FDR came along and hiked them up even further in an attempt to have a centrally planned economy, exactly what Hoover was attempting. That's what makes it so amusing to hear Democrats excoriate Hoover while praising FDR.
 
Franklin D. Roosevelt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The GNP was 34% higher in 1936 than in 1932 and 58% higher in 1940 on the eve of war. That is, the economy grew 58% from 1932 to 1940 in 8 years of peacetime, and then grew 56% from 1940 to 1945 in 5 years of wartime.


please note the 58% in peactime and 56% in wartime.

No, the economy did not grow during that time. What grew was government spending and government manipulation of the economy propping up a false economy. When Roosevelt became concerned with the debt he was racking up he scaled back government spending and the unemployment rate started shooting right up back, thus pulling away the curtain shrouding the false economy FDR had created. If the economy was truly recovering the growth would have continued despite the lack of government spending because private sector investment would have continued. Instead, it was stagnant because there really was no recovery.
 
Why are winguts so jealous of FDR's accomplishments? Could it be because their own presidents are such twits?


"Franklin D. Roosevelt was named the best president in U.S. history. They've only run the poll five times in 1982, 1990, 1994, 2002 and 2010 and all five times, FDR has been named the best president.

The rest of this year's top five, in order, were Teddy Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

In all four previous polls, those four presidents were the top four, although the order was different. This is the first time Lincoln hasn't finished second. Washington has been fourth all five times.

The rest of this year's top 10 are James Madison, James Monroe, Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower."


http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/...research/Presidents 2010 Rank by Category.pdf

facts are below:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/124469-ucla-fdr-prolonged-the-depression-5.html#post2498840
 
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Franklin D. Roosevelt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The GNP was 34% higher in 1936 than in 1932 and 58% higher in 1940 on the eve of war. That is, the economy grew 58% from 1932 to 1940 in 8 years of peacetime, and then grew 56% from 1940 to 1945 in 5 years of wartime.


please note the 58% in peactime and 56% in wartime.

No, the economy did not grow during that time. What grew was government spending and government manipulation of the economy propping up a false economy. When Roosevelt became concerned with the debt he was racking up he scaled back government spending and the unemployment rate started shooting right up back, thus pulling away the curtain shrouding the false economy FDR had created. If the economy was truly recovering the growth would have continued despite the lack of government spending because private sector investment would have continued. Instead, it was stagnant because there really was no recovery.

Stupid little boy, the facts beat your little partisan rant
 
Yeah....Jealous. :rolleyes:

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Lets just fuck over the entire population of the US at the time who KNEW FDR fixed the country after the republicans fucked them.

Your rewrites of history will fail just like your failed ideas.
 
Liesmatters said:
Lets just fuck over the entire population of the US at the time who KNEW FDR fixed the country after the republicans fucked them.

Your rewrites of history will fail just like your failed ideas.

It's your philosophy that is failing this country as we speak. It's in action right now and producing nothing but continual economic stagnation, exactly what happened when Roosevelt was in office. The New Deal II is as much a failure as New Deal the Prequel.
 
Liesmatters said:
No, the economy did not grow during that time. What grew was government spending and government manipulation of the economy propping up a false economy. When Roosevelt became concerned with the debt he was racking up he scaled back government spending and the unemployment rate started shooting right up back, thus pulling away the curtain shrouding the false economy FDR had created. If the economy was truly recovering the growth would have continued despite the lack of government spending because private sector investment would have continued. Instead, it was stagnant because there really was no recovery.

Stupid little boy, the facts beat your little partisan rant

I can't be partisan, by the very definition of the word, as I belong to no political party.

In politics, a partisan is a committed member of a party

And I am using facts. The facts are that unemployment fluctuated from the high teens to the mid 20s percent wise through Roosevelt's first two terms until WWII reinvigorated the American economy again.
 
The facts are unemployment went down under FDR and the nations LOVED him.

These people like to piss in thier own eyes while shitting on the Amricans who lived at the time.

They rewrite every part of history they get their hands on.

They hate science, history and higher education so they can defend their failed ideas
 
The facts are unemployment went down under FDR and the nations LOVED him.

These people like to piss in thier own eyes while shitting on the Amricans who lived at the time.

They rewrite every part of history they get their hands on.

They hate science, history and higher education so they can defend their failed ideas

Here's some ideas for you Truther...

a. SPELL CHECK
b. Lay off the sauce till at least 5:00
c. Stop licking the urinal cakes
d. Unemployment averaged around 19% under FDR. Hardly a success, unless of course you marvel that it could have been 50%.
 
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