The Imaginary Greatness of FDR

[Truthmatters]

The numbers are just too much for you to overcome huh?

 

[Intense]

The facts are unemployment went down under FDR and the nations LOVED him.

These people like to piss in thier own eyes while shitting on the Amricans who lived at the time.

They rewrite every part of history they get their hands on.

They hate science, history and higher education so they can defend their failed ideas

I don't see it that way TM. It's hard for all of us to sort through all of the misinformation, some it State sponsored. We were all indoctrinated. My take is that there are many choices in Government, not all compatible with life in a Free Democratic Constitutional Republic. I give Hamilton a fail for as an acclaimed Federalist, shoving a National Bank down our throats. That was not compatible with who we were as a Nation today. Look at the corruption at the highest levels that he gave birth to. Roosevelt did not work within his means, true he both helped and hurt some. His method was and is the road to totalitarian rule. Great for administrators and bureaucrat's, Government and Union workers. Everyone else got cut out. You don't artificially maintain the cost of goods and services without hurting the poor. You don't burn and destroy crops and goods, without hurting the poor. I don't think Roosevelt was all bad, just misguided. I swear I would love to see a law that made all socialists pay full retail prices on every purchase, no sale prices, no coupons, no discounts, until you wake up. Cut the rate, increase the flow, it is that simple TM. The control freaks can't see past their ego's, their schemes to control every aspect of our lives. So much is spent on manipulating us into surrendering our will.

 

[The Rabbi]

The numbers are just too much for you to overcome huh?

I think it's more like the raw stupidity of your posts.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The numbers are just too much for you to overcome huh?

Not as hard as you overcoming your terminal stupidity. What the fuck did your parents do to you?

 

[Truthmatters]

The facts are unemployment went down under FDR and the nations LOVED him.

These people like to piss in thier own eyes while shitting on the Amricans who lived at the time.

They rewrite every part of history they get their hands on.

They hate science, history and higher education so they can defend their failed ideas

I don't see it that way TM. It's hard for all of us to sort through all of the misinformation, some it State sponsored. We were all indoctrinated. My take is that there are many choices in Government, not all compatible with life in a Free Democratic Constitutional Republic. I give Hamilton a fail for as an acclaimed Federalist, shoving a National Bank down our throats. That was not compatible with who we were as a Nation today. Look at the corruption at the highest levels that he gave birth to. Roosevelt did not work within his means, true he both helped and hurt some. His method was and is the road to totalitarian rule. Great for administrators and bureaucrat's, Government and Union workers. Everyone else got cut out. You don't artificially maintain the cost of goods and services without hurting the poor. You don't burn and destroy crops and goods, without hurting the poor. I don't think Roosevelt was all bad, just misguided. I swear I would love to see a law that made all socialists pay full retail prices on every purchase, no sale prices, no coupons, no discounts, until you wake up. Cut the rate, increase the flow, it is that simple TM. The control freaks can't see past their ego's, their schemes to control every aspect of our lives. So much is spent on manipulating us into surrendering our will.

FDR saved this country and the population who lived through this time would be very disappointed to see all the history rewrite that is done by the right in this country on the subject.

 

[Truthmatters]

United States Unemployment Rate 1920–2008 — Infoplease.com


Keep in mind FDR entered office in 1933

The unemployment began to fall as his plans were implimented.

You can dislike the facts but you cant change them.

 

[boedicca]

The facts are unemployment went down under FDR and the nations LOVED him.

These people like to piss in thier own eyes while shitting on the Amricans who lived at the time.

They rewrite every part of history they get their hands on.

They hate science, history and higher education so they can defend their failed ideas

Not really. It took WWII to employ 25M people in either the military or armaments and supply industries to lower unemployment. FDR was terrified about another Depression when the war ended, and was in the process of proposing New Deal Part Deux when he died. Fortunately for the U.S., Truman failed to persuade the Democrats in Congress to go along with the Pre-Obamanation. Congress cut taxes instead, spurring economic growth and real private sector job creation.

As to your last sentence, the hatred is all on your side, you dim little nitwit.

 

[Intense]

The facts are unemployment went down under FDR and the nations LOVED him.

These people like to piss in thier own eyes while shitting on the Amricans who lived at the time.

They rewrite every part of history they get their hands on.

They hate science, history and higher education so they can defend their failed ideas

I don't see it that way TM. It's hard for all of us to sort through all of the misinformation, some it State sponsored. We were all indoctrinated. My take is that there are many choices in Government, not all compatible with life in a Free Democratic Constitutional Republic. I give Hamilton a fail for as an acclaimed Federalist, shoving a National Bank down our throats. That was not compatible with who we were as a Nation today. Look at the corruption at the highest levels that he gave birth to. Roosevelt did not work within his means, true he both helped and hurt some. His method was and is the road to totalitarian rule. Great for administrators and bureaucrat's, Government and Union workers. Everyone else got cut out. You don't artificially maintain the cost of goods and services without hurting the poor. You don't burn and destroy crops and goods, without hurting the poor. I don't think Roosevelt was all bad, just misguided. I swear I would love to see a law that made all socialists pay full retail prices on every purchase, no sale prices, no coupons, no discounts, until you wake up. Cut the rate, increase the flow, it is that simple TM. The control freaks can't see past their ego's, their schemes to control every aspect of our lives. So much is spent on manipulating us into surrendering our will.

FDR saved this country and the population who lived through this time would be very disappointed to see all the history rewrite that is done by the right in this country on the subject.

So I remember them telling us since I was 6 years old. Pretty insistent and determined. The Oligarchy marches on in lock step. What ever you do, don't question.

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[Soggy in NOLA]

And BTW.... there's probably a bunch of Japanese/Americans who might not be FDR fans.

 

[Truthmatters]

1928.......4.2

30...........8.7


32...........23.6

33 FDR takes office in 33
34...........21.7


36............16.9


38.............19.0 FDR stepped back the recovery to balence the budget and had to step it back up because unemployment increased


40..............14.6


42...............4.7 We entered the war

 

[Truthmatters]

And BTW.... there's probably a bunch of Japanese/Americans who might not be FDR fans.

And Germans too

 

[boedicca]

The U.S. began supplying material to the allies in 1941 and entered the war in earnest after the Pear Harbor attack in December of that year. 1942 represents the full impact of a large scale (temporary) war economy - you nattering nabob of nincompoopery.

 

[Truthmatters]

So you are going to pretend the decreases in unemployment before the war mean nothing huh?

 

[boedicca]

Starting in 1939, the U.S. began borrowing heavily to build up the military. The decrease in unemployment levels prior to the war was due to this effort. Without this spending, the recession of 1938 would have continued. The New Deal failed - the only thing that saved FDR was WWII.

 

[The T]

Starting in 1939, the U.S. began borrowing heavily to build up the military. The decrease in unemployment levels prior to the war was due to this effort. Without this spending, the recession of 1938 would have continued. The New Deal failed - the only thing that saved FDR was WWII.

And the hard work of the populace during the war.

 

[blu]

FDR is considered a great president, not because of his policies but because of his leadership. He led the country through the greatest depression and military threat the country has ever faced. After the war ended we were the greatest military, industry, and financial power on earth. I think the president that led us through this deserves a lot a credit.

what military threat did we face before FDR meddled us with the japan sanctions?

 

[blu]

I still shake my head when supposed "free marketers" believe that taxing people to make bombs, planes, tanks, and guns is good for the economy...

the broken window fallacy goes right over many people's head and/or they choose to ignore it becuase they love blowing up and rebuilding countries across earth from us

 

[Charles_Main]

FDR supposedly is a Great President for "Getting us out of the Great Depression."

Here's the data set.

I see no greatness. I see 8 consecutive years of failure.

FDR US Unemployment 1932: 24.1%, 1933: 24.9, 1934: 21.7%, 1935: 20.1%, 1936: 16.9%, 1937: 14.3%, 1938: 19.0%, 1939: 17.2%. 8 year Average = 19.8%

What's so great about averaging 20% unemployment for 8 consecutive years?

FDR did finally get us out of the Depression, But not the way Libs want you to think. All his social Spending did nothing to get us out, In fact many think they made it last longer. It was when he began spending Billions of Government dollars on private industry products to fight WWII that we got out of the Depression.

Moral, If you are going to Spend Government Money to cause recovery, Spend it in the private sector, Not on More Government programs, and Temporary Construction jobs.

 

[Truthmatters]

File:Gdp29-41.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This chart of GDP shows what he did.

Now place it next to the unemployment chart and realise your history rewrites will fail with anyone with a brain.

 

[Oddball]

I still shake my head when supposed "free marketers" believe that taxing people to make bombs, planes, tanks, and guns is good for the economy...

the broken window fallacy goes right over many people's head and/or they choose to ignore it becuase they love blowing up and rebuilding countries across earth from us

It was when ferret face Krugman invoked the broken window theory in one of his NY Times screeds after 9/11™, that I came to the conclusion that he's a dangerous ideologue freak, rather than merely horribly misguided.