The government throws a man in jail for mocking a girl

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    Wow, thanks for bringing us this useful news...
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    clearly, the america i grew up in is dead.
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    I don't know what's worse, the fact that this guy did this, or the fact that the government thinks they should infringe on our free speech rights because of it.
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    Let's all pray on it...
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    Gatsby wrote: But I don't want the government thinking it's their right to throw people in jail for exercising their first amendment rights.

    So ridiculing a disabled girl is your idea of free speech??

    Avatar wrote: I don't know what's worse, the fact that this guy did this, or the fact that the government thinks they should infringe on our free speech rights because of it.

    So you don't know the difference either???
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    Judge Sentences Ohio Man to 29 Days in Jail for Imitating Disabled Girl's Limp
    November 28, 2012 - In an apparent case of rudeness being elevated to criminality, a 43-year-old Ohio man has been sentenced to 29 days in jail for mocking a ten-year-old girl with cerebral palsy.
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    Just reading the story, no way should he have taken a plea. Should have taken a chance in fornt of a jury.
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    Someone should have just beaten the stupid motherfucker to within an inch of his life and left it at that.
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    I'm sure his lawyer told him what would happen if a jury were shown that video.
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    It IS free speech, and we all know the difference.

    Do you really think this assholes behavior rises to a jail sentence?


    Wow.
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    This I can agree to.
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    Is the first amendment based upon you can say what you want but only if you're really nice about it? We start throwing guys like this in prison today and tomorrow it's protestors against the government.
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    Given that it's not a jury's job to decide the Constitutionality of that law, I can see that. Perhaps, he felt remorse and felt the punishment fit the crime for himself personally. And that's fine. But my point is that we are supposed to have our freedom of speech protected and not punished.
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    your understanding of the first amendment is non-existent.
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    Disorderly conduct maybe but:

    2903.21 Aggravated menacing. Not so much.

    (A) No person shall knowingly cause another to believe that the offender will cause serious physical harm to the person or property of the other person, the other person’s unborn, or a member of the other person’s immediate family.

    Lawriter - ORC - 2903.21 Aggravated menacing.

    Just making fun of a person does not put them in fear for their bodly safety, and there was nothing in the story that indicated he did so. Lets keep it real.
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    Good post. I figured the law was unconstitutional. Turns out they were just abusing the law.
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    A decent lawyer would have no problem making the case for the menacing part.
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    So there was an ongoing dispute, and it wasn't just mocking, the man (teaching his son, as the son was doing it too) plead to menacing the little girl.
    Read more: Ohio dad gets jail for mocking girl with cerebral palsy | Fox News
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    No, it is NOT free speech. It's bullying. A grown man mocking a disabled child can also be seen as menacing.

    "Free speech" NEVER means one has the right to torment another. Ask any attorney that's worked a domestic abuse case.
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    so can we be arrested for "menacing" on a discussion board?

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