The GOP may create a health crisis in Hospitals when they repeal the ACA

[JimH52]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

 

[pismoe]

good , lets get back to normal and all buy buy our own insurance JimH !!

 

[the_human_being]

May, might, it's possible, could, etc. Same old butt hurt Jim who has a record of being totally wrong about everything. LOL!!
Pathetic Jim, pathetic.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

Deporting millions of illegals will relieve the pressure on hospital emergency rooms.

 

[Pete7469]

Once all the illegals aren't flooding the ER's the "crisis" will be that we have too many ER staff.

 

[flacaltenn]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

You know what IS causing a hospital crisis in Tenn right NOW ???????? ObamaCare. BlueCross which had 80% of the pool -- just skidaddled. Out of it. The 2 companies left are taking advantage of the survivors. Picking them off like ants. So 3 out of 6 major hospitals in Nashville are NOT on the preferred provider list for the 2 companies. I called the one hospital I LIKE that is not on either provider list.. Asked the director of patient insurance how they were gonna get paid next year.

It was a "Hell if I know" type of answer.. That's IMMINENT disaster. Folks may start dying in the streets type of disaster. Hospitals may be laying folks off or closing..

 

[Penelope]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

Deporting millions of illegals will relieve the pressure on hospital emergency rooms.

Most are not going anywhere.

 

[Penelope]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

You know what IS causing a hospital crisis in Tenn right NOW ???????? ObamaCare. BlueCross which had 80% of the pool -- just skidaddled. Out of it. The 2 companies left are taking advantage of the survivors. Picking them off like ants. So 3 out of 6 major hospitals in Nashville are NOT on the preferred provider list for the 2 companies. I called the one hospital I LIKE that is not on either provider list.. Asked the director of patient insurance how they were gonna get paid next year.

It was a "Hell if I know" type of answer.. That's IMMINENT disaster. Folks may start dying in the streets type of disaster. Hospitals may be laying folks off or closing..

TN did not expand Medicaid. That is part of the problem. Fought it and messed up. Listening to the Republicans during their debates and then Trump, I'd probably leave the state as well. That is why the ACA is not working as plan , the states that refused to expand Medicaid and BCBS is in every state. The Pubs have no plan, and they hate that Pres. Obama got one and passed it.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Speaker Ryan is an asshole.

Study: 'Obamacare' repeal-only would make 30M uninsured

From link:

"The plan is for Congress to first use a special budget-related procedure to repeal major portions of the Affordable Care Act, or ACA, next year. The effective date of that repeal would be delayed by months or even years to give lawmakers time to write replacement legislation."

Lawmakers do not write legislation. The new iteration of reform in health insurance is being designed by the insurance industry as you are reading this line.

"The concerns raised by the Urban Institute study were underscored Wednesday in a letter to congressional leaders from the American Academy of Actuaries. The group represents professionals who advise corporations and government on how to design and maintain benefit programs like pension and health care plans.

"The actuaries said even if Congress delays the date of repeal, the uncertainty could prompt insurers to stop offering individual plans for people not covered by employers"

Q. Why is speaker Ryan an asshole

A. He and his family won't lose, or pay more for, their health care

 

[flacaltenn]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

You know what IS causing a hospital crisis in Tenn right NOW ???????? ObamaCare. BlueCross which had 80% of the pool -- just skidaddled. Out of it. The 2 companies left are taking advantage of the survivors. Picking them off like ants. So 3 out of 6 major hospitals in Nashville are NOT on the preferred provider list for the 2 companies. I called the one hospital I LIKE that is not on either provider list.. Asked the director of patient insurance how they were gonna get paid next year.

It was a "Hell if I know" type of answer.. That's IMMINENT disaster. Folks may start dying in the streets type of disaster. Hospitals may be laying folks off or closing..

TN did not expand Medicaid. That is part of the problem. Fought it and messed up. Listening to the Republicans during their debates and then Trump, I'd probably leave the state as well. That is why the ACA is not working as plan , the states that refused to expand Medicaid and BCBS is in every state. The Pubs have no plan, and they hate that Pres. Obama got one and passed it.

I agree that the ENTIRE "uninsured" problem could have been addressed that way. But THAT has nothing to do with the IMMEDIATE crisis in Tenn. The 2 companies left in the pool have jacked rates (for me) by 70% and gone to "skinny network" plans that leave about 1/2 of health care providers in Tenn OUTSIDE the networks. Those 2 companies will NOT EVEN NEGOTIATE with providers not already in their networks.

It's a total cluster fuck NOW.. You want a crisis.. You've got it...

 

[Wry Catcher]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

You know what IS causing a hospital crisis in Tenn right NOW ???????? ObamaCare. BlueCross which had 80% of the pool -- just skidaddled. Out of it. The 2 companies left are taking advantage of the survivors. Picking them off like ants. So 3 out of 6 major hospitals in Nashville are NOT on the preferred provider list for the 2 companies. I called the one hospital I LIKE that is not on either provider list.. Asked the director of patient insurance how they were gonna get paid next year.

It was a "Hell if I know" type of answer.. That's IMMINENT disaster. Folks may start dying in the streets type of disaster. Hospitals may be laying folks off or closing..

TN did not expand Medicaid. That is part of the problem. Fought it and messed up. Listening to the Republicans during their debates and then Trump, I'd probably leave the state as well. That is why the ACA is not working as plan , the states that refused to expand Medicaid and BCBS is in every state. The Pubs have no plan, and they hate that Pres. Obama got one and passed it.

I agree that the ENTIRE "uninsured" problem could have been addressed that way. But THAT has nothing to do with the IMMEDIATE crisis in Tenn. The 2 companies left in the pool have jacked rates (for me) by 70% and gone to "skinny network" plans that leave about 1/2 of health care providers in Tenn OUTSIDE the networks. Those 2 companies will NOT EVEN NEGOTIATE with providers not already in their networks.

It's a total cluster fuck NOW.. You want a crisis.. You've got it...

Who do you claim wanted a crisis?

Take a peek at Covered CA Linked Below

Covered California: Plans from the California Health Exchange
gclid=cjwkeaiag5_cbrdo4o6e4o3ntg0sjab-iatymqp3qtkn9wx53jq-gqvfynwqaov2glj3v2j90rububocrkrw_wcb

Thank you Gov. Brown

 

[flacaltenn]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

You know what IS causing a hospital crisis in Tenn right NOW ???????? ObamaCare. BlueCross which had 80% of the pool -- just skidaddled. Out of it. The 2 companies left are taking advantage of the survivors. Picking them off like ants. So 3 out of 6 major hospitals in Nashville are NOT on the preferred provider list for the 2 companies. I called the one hospital I LIKE that is not on either provider list.. Asked the director of patient insurance how they were gonna get paid next year.

It was a "Hell if I know" type of answer.. That's IMMINENT disaster. Folks may start dying in the streets type of disaster. Hospitals may be laying folks off or closing..

TN did not expand Medicaid. That is part of the problem. Fought it and messed up. Listening to the Republicans during their debates and then Trump, I'd probably leave the state as well. That is why the ACA is not working as plan , the states that refused to expand Medicaid and BCBS is in every state. The Pubs have no plan, and they hate that Pres. Obama got one and passed it.

I agree that the ENTIRE "uninsured" problem could have been addressed that way. But THAT has nothing to do with the IMMEDIATE crisis in Tenn. The 2 companies left in the pool have jacked rates (for me) by 70% and gone to "skinny network" plans that leave about 1/2 of health care providers in Tenn OUTSIDE the networks. Those 2 companies will NOT EVEN NEGOTIATE with providers not already in their networks.

It's a total cluster fuck NOW.. You want a crisis.. You've got it...

Who do you claim wanted a crisis?

Take a peek at Covered CA Linked Below

Covered California: Plans from the California Health Exchange
gclid=cjwkeaiag5_cbrdo4o6e4o3ntg0sjab-iatymqp3qtkn9wx53jq-gqvfynwqaov2glj3v2j90rububocrkrw_wcb

Thank you Gov. Brown

All I really see there is ONE company BlueCrossBlueShield operating under 2 different names. And a LOCAL HMO choice thru Kaiser. No price info, no network info.. If that is how YOU determine the health of a govt insurance pool --- you're not paying close attention to the details. Spring ahead to when BCBS does not get the full promised subsidy payments from the Feds and tell me what happens to that "blissful" situation..

 

[Wry Catcher]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

You know what IS causing a hospital crisis in Tenn right NOW ???????? ObamaCare. BlueCross which had 80% of the pool -- just skidaddled. Out of it. The 2 companies left are taking advantage of the survivors. Picking them off like ants. So 3 out of 6 major hospitals in Nashville are NOT on the preferred provider list for the 2 companies. I called the one hospital I LIKE that is not on either provider list.. Asked the director of patient insurance how they were gonna get paid next year.

It was a "Hell if I know" type of answer.. That's IMMINENT disaster. Folks may start dying in the streets type of disaster. Hospitals may be laying folks off or closing..

TN did not expand Medicaid. That is part of the problem. Fought it and messed up. Listening to the Republicans during their debates and then Trump, I'd probably leave the state as well. That is why the ACA is not working as plan , the states that refused to expand Medicaid and BCBS is in every state. The Pubs have no plan, and they hate that Pres. Obama got one and passed it.

I agree that the ENTIRE "uninsured" problem could have been addressed that way. But THAT has nothing to do with the IMMEDIATE crisis in Tenn. The 2 companies left in the pool have jacked rates (for me) by 70% and gone to "skinny network" plans that leave about 1/2 of health care providers in Tenn OUTSIDE the networks. Those 2 companies will NOT EVEN NEGOTIATE with providers not already in their networks.

It's a total cluster fuck NOW.. You want a crisis.. You've got it...

Who do you claim wanted a crisis?

Take a peek at Covered CA Linked Below

Covered California: Plans from the California Health Exchange
gclid=cjwkeaiag5_cbrdo4o6e4o3ntg0sjab-iatymqp3qtkn9wx53jq-gqvfynwqaov2glj3v2j90rububocrkrw_wcb

Thank you Gov. Brown

All I really see there is ONE company BlueCrossBlueShield operating under 2 different names. And a LOCAL HMO choice thru Kaiser. No price info, no network info.. If that is how YOU determine the health of a govt insurance pool --- you're not paying close attention to the details. Spring ahead to when BCBS does not get the full promised subsidy payments from the Feds and tell me what happens to that "blissful" situation..

The point made was CA worked within the system, and your state did not.

My wife and I have Kaiser Sr. Advantage for which we pay $89.23/mo (subsidize by the county and medicare); $10 for a an appt. with my primary care dr (but one free every year for an annual physical; $10 for major surgery; $10 for each Rx and free flu and other shots which are determined to be preventative.

Thus, I have no need to look into the details of Covered CA. Here it works, and that is because the CA Governor did not make Obamacare a political football.

 

[Lewdog]

good , lets get back to normal and all buy buy our own insurance JimH !!

I've asked you before, do you even live in the U.S.?

 

[Lewdog]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

You know what IS causing a hospital crisis in Tenn right NOW ???????? ObamaCare. BlueCross which had 80% of the pool -- just skidaddled. Out of it. The 2 companies left are taking advantage of the survivors. Picking them off like ants. So 3 out of 6 major hospitals in Nashville are NOT on the preferred provider list for the 2 companies. I called the one hospital I LIKE that is not on either provider list.. Asked the director of patient insurance how they were gonna get paid next year.

It was a "Hell if I know" type of answer.. That's IMMINENT disaster. Folks may start dying in the streets type of disaster. Hospitals may be laying folks off or closing..

TN did not expand Medicaid. That is part of the problem. Fought it and messed up. Listening to the Republicans during their debates and then Trump, I'd probably leave the state as well. That is why the ACA is not working as plan , the states that refused to expand Medicaid and BCBS is in every state. The Pubs have no plan, and they hate that Pres. Obama got one and passed it.

I agree that the ENTIRE "uninsured" problem could have been addressed that way. But THAT has nothing to do with the IMMEDIATE crisis in Tenn. The 2 companies left in the pool have jacked rates (for me) by 70% and gone to "skinny network" plans that leave about 1/2 of health care providers in Tenn OUTSIDE the networks. Those 2 companies will NOT EVEN NEGOTIATE with providers not already in their networks.

It's a total cluster fuck NOW.. You want a crisis.. You've got it...

Who do you claim wanted a crisis?

Take a peek at Covered CA Linked Below

Covered California: Plans from the California Health Exchange
gclid=cjwkeaiag5_cbrdo4o6e4o3ntg0sjab-iatymqp3qtkn9wx53jq-gqvfynwqaov2glj3v2j90rububocrkrw_wcb

Thank you Gov. Brown

All I really see there is ONE company BlueCrossBlueShield operating under 2 different names. And a LOCAL HMO choice thru Kaiser. No price info, no network info.. If that is how YOU determine the health of a govt insurance pool --- you're not paying close attention to the details. Spring ahead to when BCBS does not get the full promised subsidy payments from the Feds and tell me what happens to that "blissful" situation..

Sounds like the problem is just in your state. I have Anthem Blue Cross Medicaid in Ky and have not had a single problem seeing a single doctor the entire time. None. I've had more problems finding a dentist that accepts it than a doctor.

 

[Care4all]

good , lets get back to normal and all buy buy our own insurance JimH !!

it's $12000 a year per person for an individual health care insurance policy for a healthy person in their 50's with a $6000 out of pocket, $2000 deductible....that's what individual rate policies cost here..... if we all had to buy our own, then there would be no ''group rate'' policies through your work, which would make insurance cost prohibitive, for most of us....

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

So going back to the way it was six years ago, which was better, would suddenly be an "unprecedented public health crisis?" LOL Okay, whatever you say.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

So going back to the way it was six years ago, which was better, would suddenly be an "unprecedented public health crisis?" LOL Okay, whatever you say.

"Which was better". That's ha ha funny.

 

[JimH52]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

So going back to the way it was six years ago, which was better, would suddenly be an "unprecedented public health crisis?" LOL Okay, whatever you say.

The system in place is going to take a long time to take it down and if the GOP has anything to replace it with, it will take an even longer time to implement. This is going to be a long and laborious process. The Republicans cannot just press a button and the ACA is gone.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Hospitals: GOP may create 'an unprecedented public health crisis'

But the GOP is the GOP is the GOP. Their constituents are wealthy enough that they don't really care.

Talk about a full of shit story...no one ever stopped using E.R. rooms and illegals were the ones mostly using them


https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/26625571/?client=ms-android-boost-us&espv=1



Three-quarters of emergency physicians say they've seen ER patient visits surge since Obamacare took effect — just the opposite of what many Americans expected would happen.