The Fake, Meaningless Distinction Between Hamas and the "Palestinians"

They voted for Hamas when Bush was in the white house. We've had three new administrations since than, but the Palestinians haven't had a chance to vote for a new government.

Under that theory, since the Germans voted for the NAZI's in the 1930's, they should remain NAZI into the 1950's
That was the plan until the Nazis/Hitler blew it and started the Second World War.
They claimed that they would be the Third Reich, last for a thousand years.

Are the "Palestinians" so pathetic they can't arrange their own elections and need the USA to do that for them?

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We hear the Hamas terror apologists make the distinction between Hamas and the so-called "Palestinian" people generally. That is, Hamas may consist of "Palestinians", but not all "Palestinians" are Hamas. There are 2 levels of problems with this assertion.

First, and most importantly, we know that today's maniacal and virulent supporters of "Palestinians" did not erupt to the degree we see today until after the Hamas attack on innocent Jews in Israel that tool over 1,400 lives. The subsequent bat-shit crazy protests and acidic critiques of Israel are, therefore, connected to the Hamas attack contra Israel. They immediately started accusing Israel of genocide (though retribution for the attack had not yet begun), apartheid (though Israel had ceded both Gaza and the West Bank to the "Palestinian" ding-dongs); etc... Then there were dubious and factually incorrect arguments and how has the greater claim to the land contained in the sovereign nation-state of Israel. All of these arguments were quite stupid and transparent attempts at deflection, passed down for use by the ignorant leftist tools (i.e., useful idiots) to parrot.

It is one thing to promote the cause of the "Palestinian" people, regardless of how asinine that may be. It is your cause and you pimp it. However, when this anti-Israel cause (because that is really what it is) is ramped up to the critical levels we see today....IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE HAMAS TERROR ATTACK, there can be no doubt that the two events are related. Now, I am not saying that Hamas did the attack to gin up support for their cause to annihilate the Jews. However, they did do it for that reason. There has been this longstanding wet dream amongst the Jihadists that all of the Arab world would rise up and destroy Israel and all Jews the world over. It would be like Hitler on steroids. But while this is absolutely true, that is not quite the point I am attempting to make here. My point is simpler.

The leftists and using the Hamas attack as an opportunity to lash out at the Jews, citing all sorts of imagined grievances from present day to centuries ago. As an aside, just to demonstrate the utterly profound difference between the the so-called "Palestinians" and the Israelis, one must think of the "Palestinians" as the Flintstones, and they must think of the Israelis as the Jetsons. One lives in the stone age while the other is far, far advanced in technology and civility. They are both created by the same entity. But they are vastly different. Against this backdrop we can judge the Muslim anti-Jew stance not just from the perspective of it being largely irrational and bigoted hatred (which it is), but also as one based in socio-economic station. In the latter sense, the "Palestinian" cause fits very neatly into the Marxist struggle between the lowly peasants and the owners of the means of production. Therefore, it is not surprising that today's neo-Marxist revolutionaries strongly support the anti-Semitic tripe espoused by the "Palestinians".

By basing this most recent and rabid push against Israel upon the recent Hamas attack, the pro-"Palestinian" people have, de facto, ratified violence against Jews. Further, notice that there is never any qualification to the left's arguments, such as "Yes, what Hamas did to those poor, innocent Jewish children is unspeakable evil, but ...". There is rarely any of that. And where there is such qualification it is very insincere. Moreover, we have seen anti-Jewish violence and ideology from Middle Eastern Muslims for years and years and years. The pro-"Palestinian" goof balls cannot hide history. There is ample evidence that violence against Jews is widely accepted in the Muslim world. Finally, the "Palestinian" people voted to put Hamas in control of Gaza. They certainly have not tried to throw them out. Israel would gladly supply the "Palestinians" with the arms needed to eradicate today's Hamas in a civil war, but there is no inclination to do so. Anti-Israel protests in the streets of Gaza are well noted. Why does the pro-"Palestinian" advocacy think we will not remember than? Hamas and Hezbollah are anti-Jew proxies for Iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism. Do we not remember Iran's violent Islamic revolution? The taking of the Americans hostage there in 1979, then holding them captive for 444 days? All the "Death to America", American flag burning and violent anti-American demonstrations in Iran? The bombing of the Marines barracks in Lebanon in the early 1980s? And so on ....

Granted, there are a lot of young people today who are dumber than dirt AND easily led astray. They do not know history. All they know is whatever is told to them by the loudest speaker, and the narrative that most appeals to their newly acquired "fuck duh man" quest for independence and desire to buck the system. Many do not believe that Jihadist Muslims are evil pricks who need to be eradicated from the face of the Earth like we rid our homes of cockroaches. It blows my mind to hear young Americans mindlessly spout such anti-Semitic tripe while believing themselves to be correct in their positions. It is the Hitler youth movement all over again. Except, this time Hitler is a Muslim and is being handled by a leftist, neo-Marxist revolutionary movement.

Thus, we have 2 things going on here. First, and as I have mentioned many times, we are being attacked ("We" meaning the west) by Marxist revolutionaries, who are trying to destroy our institutions. Second, we have the unmitigated Muslim hatred for Jews manifesting itself in horrific ways. The latter is merely an arrow in the quiver of the former. That's right: the left is co-opting the Muslim hatred for Jews and Israel. Now, granted, the left is horribly racist, including against Jews, anyway. But there is more at work here. After such a bloody attack perpetrated by Hamas against Israel, I doubt that humanity's natural reaction is to hit the streets pimping the cause of the "Palestinians". Sure, some will....the blood-thirsty dogs who are Jihadists. But generally, no. So, why did it happen? Because there is organization. There is design. This is another one of those non-organic occurrences the left likes to plan then jump on for partisan games. Oh, the Hamas attack was real and it was organic. Hamas hates Jews and Israel. They possess bat-shit crazy hatred for Jews. But I am referring to the response. It is canned. It is also completely irrational. Further, it is inextricably connected to the recent Jewish bloodletting. There is no way that you cannot be, based upon the foregoing, a pro-Palestinian advocate espousing all the anti-Jew rhetoric and not approve of, and advocate (direct and/or indirectly) for, violence against Jews. Not at this point in time.

As of today, Hamas and the so-called "Palestinian" people are one in the same. Certainly, for the purpose of this war, they are both equally enemies of the state of Israel and of the Jewish nation at large. The "Palestinian" people made their bed, now they must sleep in it. Israel is doing God's work; Netanyahu is Yahweh's hand of vengeance. Let the war continue unabated until the evil is destroyed.
was in January 2006 that the Palestinian territories held what turned out to be their last parliamentary elections. Hamas won a bare plurality of votes (44 percent to the more moderate Fatah party’s 41 percent) but, given the electoral system, a strong majority of seats (74 to 45). Neither party was keen on sharing power. Fighting broke out between the two. When a unity government was finally formed in June 2007, Hamas broke the deal, started murdering Fatah members, and, in the end, took total control of the Gaza Strip. Those who weren’t killed fled to the West Bank, and the territories have remained split ever since.
 
They never accept blame for anything that happens there.

Yes, we've noted you don't know shit, just go along with peer group fashion, and never accept blame for bad outcomes of policies you support. That's what ideologies are for, making up fantasies that deflect from failures, same as right wingers do with their fake 'free market' scams and the Republicans with their current hobby of channeling Jane Fonda's inane bourgeois isolationism. Two sides of the same wooden nickel.
 
was in January 2006 that the Palestinian territories held what turned out to be their last parliamentary elections. Hamas won a bare plurality of votes (44 percent to the more moderate Fatah party’s 41 percent) but, given the electoral system, a strong majority of seats (74 to 45). Neither party was keen on sharing power. Fighting broke out between the two. When a unity government was finally formed in June 2007, Hamas broke the deal, started murdering Fatah members, and, in the end, took total control of the Gaza Strip. Those who weren’t killed fled to the West Bank, and the territories have remained split ever since.
It's unfortunate that self rule just does not work out for
Gaza. The situation seems further exacerbated by an Iranian
incursion into the "power vacuum" Things might have turned out better if Egypt had not ABANDONED Gaza. ---
Same seems true of the "palestinian" refugees in Lebanon
and Jordan. "TAKING IN" turned out not to be useful in
any way----"taking in" and treating them like caged monkeys
turned out to be a disaster. What is the function of the OIC?
 
It's unfortunate that self rule just does not work out for
Gaza. The situation seems further exacerbated by an Iranian
incursion into the "power vacuum" Things might have turned out better if Egypt had not ABANDONED Gaza. ---
Same seems true of the "palestinian" refugees in Lebanon
and Jordan. "TAKING IN" turned out not to be useful in
any way----"taking in" and treating them like caged monkeys
turned out to be a disaster. What is the function of the OIC?

Gaza is like the Warsaw ghetto. Did the Jews deserve that? Was God on their side?
 
Gaza is like the Warsaw ghetto. Did the Jews deserve that? Was God on their side?
Gaza is nothing like the Warsaw Ghetto---your comment bespeaks your gross ignorance---
or, more likely, extreme vulgarity. BUT you make
an excellent point-----Starvation siege is a technique
highly developed under the filth of islam as is
complete disarmament. Are you making a
SUGGESTION? ROFLMAO @ "god" on their side"
-----"gpd" has nothing to do with it----more likely it was a machination of "allah"
 
It's unfortunate that self rule just does not work out for
Gaza. The situation seems further exacerbated by an Iranian
incursion into the "power vacuum" Things might have turned out better if Egypt had not ABANDONED Gaza. ---
Same seems true of the "palestinian" refugees in Lebanon
and Jordan. "TAKING IN" turned out not to be useful in
any way----"taking in" and treating them like caged monkeys
turned out to be a disaster. What is the function of the OIC?
Muslims have never been big on self-rule.
 
Gaza is like the Warsaw ghetto. Did the Jews deserve that? Was God on their side?
It is not at all like the Warsaw ghetto. Israel ceded that land to those Arabs, and Israel supplies Gaza with food, energy, and all of their needs, save for guns, bombs, and rockets. The only time Gaza is subject to military action from Israel is in response to "Palestinian" terror attacks against Israel (which virtually always target civilians).
 
It is not at all like the Warsaw ghetto. Israel ceded that land to those Arabs, and Israel supplies Gaza with food, energy, and all of their needs, save for guns, bombs, and rockets. The only time Gaza is subject to military action from Israel is in response to "Palestinian" terror attacks against Israel (which virtually always target civilians).
the targeting of civilians by muslims is a manifestation of SHARIAH---Under Shariah law---
MUSLIMS CAN. and nonmuslims can't <<
this is the basis of islamic law on one foot
 
Does not fool thinkers
It’s like saying those who live in Virginia 1/2 mile south of MD border are wholly and uniquely different than their MD counterparts 1/2 mile away.
 
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the targeting of civilians by muslims is a manifestation of SHARIAH---Under Shariah law---
MUSLIMS CAN. and nonmuslims can't <<
this is the basis of islamic law on one foot

The Zionists were Europeans and Russians.
 
It's unfortunate that self rule just does not work out for
Gaza. The situation seems further exacerbated by an Iranian
incursion into the "power vacuum" Things might have turned out better if Egypt had not ABANDONED Gaza. ---
Same seems true of the "palestinian" refugees in Lebanon
and Jordan. "TAKING IN" turned out not to be useful in
any way----"taking in" and treating them like caged monkeys
turned out to be a disaster. What is the function of the OIC?

The Palestinians still have their housekeys. They were born to that culture not the shetls of Eastern Europe.
 
Neither were the Jews. They were always ruled by other countries. Then in the first century they lost Palestine altogether.
They (Jews) seem to be down with self-rule now. Thus, I do not know what you are getting at.
 
It's not surprising that MAGA wouldn't recognize a difference between Hamas and the Palestinian people. Their binary thinking patterns don't recognize distinctions in MOST things.

You're either 100% this, or 100% that. Good or evil. Caveman thinking. That's all they know.
Can’t recognize what is not there but we Know it’s soothing for you to Feel so.
 
It's not surprising that MAGA wouldn't recognize a difference between Hamas and the Palestinian people. Their binary thinking patterns don't recognize distinctions in MOST things.

You're either 100% this, or 100% that. Good or evil. Caveman thinking. That's all they know.
Can’t recognize what is not there but we Know it’s soothing for you to Feel so.
And there ya go.
 

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