The Fake, Meaningless Distinction Between Hamas and the "Palestinians"

[Stryder50]

Yes see my new emoji? 10 point Buck. Big for the area I hunt. But he rack I'll admit is not that wide.

Dude, I'm sorry, but Jewish people are unreasonable. That's why I think the only solution is for the Palestinians to get the fuck out. There is no living in peace with them. Not a chance. So they got to go.

If Israel would give them a country maybe that would be a solution but for years Israel says "this is your land but don't mind those new Jewish settlements popping up all over the place"

You are an example that this can't be said too often;

What you and most of the neo-Nazi enablers of Hamas and the phony "Palestinian" issue either don't know or intentionally neglect, there was a "Two State" solution to the problems in the Levant, nearly 75 years ago. The United Nations Partition Plan;
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The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a proposal by the United Nations, which recommended a partition of Mandatory Palestine at the end of the British Mandate. On 29 November 1947, the UN General Assembly adopted the Plan as Resolution 181 (II).[1]
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United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia ​

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As with most compromise solutions, neither side was fully satisfied with it, but record shows that the Jews were more willing to live and work with the plan than the Arabs/Muslims were.

What had started as a 'Civil War' up to and following the British withdrawal, boiled over into the ;
"1948 Arab-Israel War"

1948 Arab–Israeli War - Wikipedia ​

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... with the neighboring Arab/Islamic nations agenda to destroy Israel as a nation, kill or drive into the sea all the Jews, and reclaim the land of the Levant. the stakes were set back then in 1948 and have remained the same ever since.;
Arabs/Muslims seek to destroy Israel and eliminate the Jews therein.
Israel seeks to survive and ideally exist in peace with it's neighbors.
Note that possession of real estate has been one of the goals of both sides in the on again/off again forever war, hence claims of land lost to one side or the other are mostly window dressing for political reasons; existence of either side in control being the larger issue.

It should be noted that context has the Jews occupying the Levant/Israel as far back as 4,000+ years ago. Admittedly sprinkled with occasions where they were in exile and/or other nations/powers occupied the land/region. Also, with Islam starting only @1,400 years ago, the Muslim claim to Levant/Israel is based upon earlier conquest at the start of the Islamic wars of expansion and conquest.

Spread of Islam - Wikipedia ​

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[AZrailwhale]

Fair enough.

Just remember this saying. Don't fuck with me and then cry about how I over reacted. I believe Israel does treat Palestinians like second class citizens and Hamas said enough was enough.

I have had the fortune of knowing Jewish people. They never accept blame for anything that happens there. I've noticed they are unreasonable. So I can only imagine what it's like to live in GAZA. Can't be fun

And they've been complaining about this for how long yet it never stops?

Hamas has said it was motivated to launch the attack essentially as the culmination of long-building anger over Israeli policy, including recent outbreaks of violence at the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, but more generally over the treatment of Palestinians and the expansion of Israeli settlements.

Why should Israelis/Jews accept any blame? The Arabs/Muslims were trying to wipe them out in 1947 before the UN partitioned Israel. As soon as Israel was created, the Muslims invaded from all sides to wipe them out. The so called Palestinian refugees are the people who voluntarily left Israel under orders from the grand Mufti so as to give the invading five Arab armies a free- fire zone. The Arabs/ Muslims have done nothing except try to exterminate the Israelis ever since. If you look objectively you can see the entire blame rests on the Muslims, NOT the Jews.

 

[eagle1462010]

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[Delldude]

That's why I think the only solution is for the Palestinians to get the fuck out. There is no living in peace with them. Not a chance. So they got to go.

You got it ass backwards. It's the Arab nations been screwin' the Jews for ages.

 

[Winston]

I got a few inches on everybody, asshole. I bet you are inverted.

LMAO, anybody with the moniker "Lord Long Rod" has got to have a pecker so small that they need tweezers to fish it out and take a piss.

 

[surada]

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2023/11/01/flood_the_gaza_tunnels_989879.html

We hear the Hamas terror apologists make the distinction between Hamas and the so-called "Palestinian" people generally. That is, Hamas may consist of "Palestinians", but not all "Palestinians" are Hamas. There are 2 levels of problems with this assertion.

First, and most importantly, we know that today's maniacal and virulent supporters of "Palestinians" did not erupt to the degree we see today until after the Hamas attack on innocent Jews in Israel that tool over 1,400 lives. The subsequent bat-shit crazy protests and acidic critiques of Israel are, therefore, connected to the Hamas attack contra Israel. They immediately started accusing Israel of genocide (though retribution for the attack had not yet begun), apartheid (though Israel had ceded both Gaza and the West Bank to the "Palestinian" ding-dongs); etc... Then there were dubious and factually incorrect arguments and how has the greater claim to the land contained in the sovereign nation-state of Israel. All of these arguments were quite stupid and transparent attempts at deflection, passed down for use by the ignorant leftist tools (i.e., useful idiots) to parrot.

It is one thing to promote the cause of the "Palestinian" people, regardless of how asinine that may be. It is your cause and you pimp it. However, when this anti-Israel cause (because that is really what it is) is ramped up to the critical levels we see today....IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE HAMAS TERROR ATTACK, there can be no doubt that the two events are related. Now, I am not saying that Hamas did the attack to gin up support for their cause to annihilate the Jews. However, they did do it for that reason. There has been this longstanding wet dream amongst the Jihadists that all of the Arab world would rise up and destroy Israel and all Jews the world over. It would be like Hitler on steroids. But while this is absolutely true, that is not quite the point I am attempting to make here. My point is simpler.

The leftists and using the Hamas attack as an opportunity to lash out at the Jews, citing all sorts of imagined grievances from present day to centuries ago. As an aside, just to demonstrate the utterly profound difference between the the so-called "Palestinians" and the Israelis, one must think of the "Palestinians" as the Flintstones, and they must think of the Israelis as the Jetsons. One lives in the stone age while the other is far, far advanced in technology and civility. They are both created by the same entity. But they are vastly different. Against this backdrop we can judge the Muslim anti-Jew stance not just from the perspective of it being largely irrational and bigoted hatred (which it is), but also as one based in socio-economic station. In the latter sense, the "Palestinian" cause fits very neatly into the Marxist struggle between the lowly peasants and the owners of the means of production. Therefore, it is not surprising that today's neo-Marxist revolutionaries strongly support the anti-Semitic tripe espoused by the "Palestinians".

By basing this most recent and rabid push against Israel upon the recent Hamas attack, the pro-"Palestinian" people have, de facto, ratified violence against Jews. Further, notice that there is never any qualification to the left's arguments, such as "Yes, what Hamas did to those poor, innocent Jewish children is unspeakable evil, but ...". There is rarely any of that. And where there is such qualification it is very insincere. Moreover, we have seen anti-Jewish violence and ideology from Middle Eastern Muslims for years and years and years. The pro-"Palestinian" goof balls cannot hide history. There is ample evidence that violence against Jews is widely accepted in the Muslim world. Finally, the "Palestinian" people voted to put Hamas in control of Gaza. They certainly have not tried to throw them out. Israel would gladly supply the "Palestinians" with the arms needed to eradicate today's Hamas in a civil war, but there is no inclination to do so. Anti-Israel protests in the streets of Gaza are well noted. Why does the pro-"Palestinian" advocacy think we will not remember than? Hamas and Hezbollah are anti-Jew proxies for Iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism. Do we not remember Iran's violent Islamic revolution? The taking of the Americans hostage there in 1979, then holding them captive for 444 days? All the "Death to America", American flag burning and violent anti-American demonstrations in Iran? The bombing of the Marines barracks in Lebanon in the early 1980s? And so on ....

Granted, there are a lot of young people today who are dumber than dirt AND easily led astray. They do not know history. All they know is whatever is told to them by the loudest speaker, and the narrative that most appeals to their newly acquired "fuck duh man" quest for independence and desire to buck the system. Many do not believe that Jihadist Muslims are evil pricks who need to be eradicated from the face of the Earth like we rid our homes of cockroaches. It blows my mind to hear young Americans mindlessly spout such anti-Semitic tripe while believing themselves to be correct in their positions. It is the Hitler youth movement all over again. Except, this time Hitler is a Muslim and is being handled by a leftist, neo-Marxist revolutionary movement.

Thus, we have 2 things going on here. First, and as I have mentioned many times, we are being attacked ("We" meaning the west) by Marxist revolutionaries, who are trying to destroy our institutions. Second, we have the unmitigated Muslim hatred for Jews manifesting itself in horrific ways. The latter is merely an arrow in the quiver of the former. That's right: the left is co-opting the Muslim hatred for Jews and Israel. Now, granted, the left is horribly racist, including against Jews, anyway. But there is more at work here. After such a bloody attack perpetrated by Hamas against Israel, I doubt that humanity's natural reaction is to hit the streets pimping the cause of the "Palestinians". Sure, some will....the blood-thirsty dogs who are Jihadists. But generally, no. So, why did it happen? Because there is organization. There is design. This is another one of those non-organic occurrences the left likes to plan then jump on for partisan games. Oh, the Hamas attack was real and it was organic. Hamas hates Jews and Israel. They possess bat-shit crazy hatred for Jews. But I am referring to the response. It is canned. It is also completely irrational. Further, it is inextricably connected to the recent Jewish bloodletting. There is no way that you cannot be, based upon the foregoing, a pro-Palestinian advocate espousing all the anti-Jew rhetoric and not approve of, and advocate (direct and/or indirectly) for, violence against Jews. Not at this point in time.

As of today, Hamas and the so-called "Palestinian" people are one in the same. Certainly, for the purpose of this war, they are both equally enemies of the state of Israel and of the Jewish nation at large. The "Palestinian" people made their bed, now they must sleep in it. Israel is doing God's work; Netanyahu is Yahweh's hand of vengeance. Let the war continue unabated until the evil is destroyed.

This is nonsense. The bombing of the Marine barracks was in response to the Sabra and Shatilla massacres.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It’s like trying to distinguish between the left and democrats.

 

[Lord Long Rod]

LMAO, anybody with the moniker "Lord Long Rod" has got to have a pecker so small that they need tweezers to fish it out and take a piss.

Whatever let’s you sleep at night, honey.

 

[Lord Long Rod]

This is nonsense. The bombing of the Marine barracks was in response to the Sabra and Shatilla massacres.

You fucking idiot. Honestly? You are going to try and justify that mass murder too?!? FO, you slime ball. Go jump on your magic carpet and ride it straight to hell.

 

[surada]

It is real simple...
Hamas is an Iranian conduit to control and use the Palestinians to stir up anti-Jewish sentiment among other Arab nations.
The Abraham accord was the first - real - chance of peace between Israel and other Arab nations.
Saudi Arabia was leaning towards this agreement.
The Mullahs in Iran are slowly loosing their grip in Iran, especially with younger Iranians.
If the Abraham accord pass in Saudi Arabia, surely other nations will follow. Even in Iran. The Mullahs stand to lose everything if it does.
So - they instructed Hamas to attack Israel so Israel would be forced to attack back - and HOPEFULLY - kill lot's of Palestinians in the process so the antisemite flames can be re-kindled and kill the Abraham accords.

But - you dutiful leftist - don't believe this... think it's all Israel's fault - can't be anyone else's!!

Israel has effectively killed the Abraham Accords. They want another war.

 

[surada]

You fucking idiot. Honestly? You are going to try and justify that mass murder too?!? FO, you slime ball. Go jump on your magic carpet and ride it straight to hell.

You're really ignorant.

 

[Lord Long Rod]

You're really ignorant.

“YOu rEeAly IgNoranT. DeRp!”

 

[Leo123]

Not all Americans are Trump supporters
And not all Germans were Nazis

We get it. Not all Palestinians are Hamas terrorists.

Let me ask you. Between Israel and Hamas. Is Israel 100% right in that conflict?

They VOTED for Hamas. So, for all intents and purposes, Palestinians are all Hamas. If the Democrat party waged a war on another country, I doubt that other country would retaliate against Democrats only.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Not all Americans are Trump supporters
And not all Germans were Nazis

We get it. Not all Palestinians are Hamas terrorists.

Let me ask you. Between Israel and Hamas. Is Israel 100% right in that conflict?

Non of the Palestinians have ever asked the world for help to remove Hamas.
Palestinians CELEBRATED the massacre of BABIES and young men and women.

There are NONE good among them.

 

[ozro]

Non of the Palestinians have ever asked the world for help to remove Hamas.
Palestinians CELEBRATED the massacre of BABIES and young men and women.

There are NONE good among them.

I disagree, there are good Palestinians in Gaza right now....the dead ones.

 

[meaner gene]

They VOTED for Hamas. So, for all intents and purposes, Palestinians are all Hamas. If the Democrat party waged a war on another country, I doubt that other country would retaliate against Democrats only.

They voted for Hamas when Bush was in the white house. We've had three new administrations since than, but the Palestinians haven't had a chance to vote for a new government.

Under that theory, since the Germans voted for the NAZI's in the 1930's, they should remain NAZI into the 1950's

 

[struth]

Not all Americans are Trump supporters
And not all Germans were Nazis

We get it. Not all Palestinians are Hamas terrorists.

Let me ask you. Between Israel and Hamas. Is Israel 100% right in that conflict?

Not all Americans are demafacist too…but when we went war with the national socialist I don’t recall having to be apologetic to the Germans.

And yes hamas is 100 percent wrong, the fact you have to ask that highlights just how deplorable the demafacist are

 

[struth]

They voted for Hamas when Bush was in the white house. We've had three new administrations since than, but the Palestinians haven't had a chance to vote for a new government.

Under that theory, since the Germans voted for the NAZI's in the 1930's, they should remain NAZI into the 1950's

Really? Why? We went in and beat the Germans ass…why would they still be national socialist in 1950?

We should do the same with Hamas

 

[Leo123]

They voted for Hamas when Bush was in the white house. We've had three new administrations since than, but the Palestinians haven't had a chance to vote for a new government.

Under that theory, since the Germans voted for the NAZI's in the 1930's, they should remain NAZI into the 1950's

Countries that the Nazis occupied asked for help. Palestinians say nothing and do nothing.

 

[Delldude]

LMAO, anybody with the moniker "Lord Long Rod" has got to have a pecker so small that they need tweezers to fish it out and take a piss.

Your infatuation with his manhood is duly noted.......