The Export-Import Bank

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I have often attacked liberals for their one size fits all approach to the widening income gap. Their answer to the problem is "tax the rich more", which punishes the innocent along with the guilty. Such a "solution" addresses the symptoms, but does not cure the disease, and so the disease would continue unabated. The income gap would continue to increase.


I have said the real problem is not that the rich aren't being taxed enough. The real problem is that some players are given a legislative field that has been radically tilted in their favor.


In this topic, I am going to provide an example of the advantages given to a sub-group of "the rich". We are going to talk about the Export-Import Bank, a federal body.


First, I will provide the on-paper reasoning given for the existence of the Export-Import Bank and how it is supposed to operate. Then I will point out the serious flaws which are exposed as a result of the realities of its operations.


Suppose you are an American company that has a chance to sell a lot of your products to a foreign entity or country. Suppose also the foreign entity/country has a reputation as being in, or being, a real shit hole. To buy your products, that foreign entity or country will need a loan. Since the entity or country is considered a big credit risk, it won't be able to get a loan on good terms.


But suppose the US government was willing to float a low interest rate loan to that entity or country so it could then buy your products? Hey, that means your products get sold, which means...JOBS! (applause)


The US government floats these low interest loans by way of the Export-Import Bank. From here on, for sake of brevity, I will call that bank Ex-Im.


Ex-Im is able to make low interest loans because of arbitrage. You see, as a federal body, the Ex-Im bank can borrow money at really, really low rates. Then it can turn around and loan that money at low rates and still make a "profit" for the US taxpayer.


It turns out the default rate on Ex-Im loans is incredibly low, so this is not a flaw in the plan.


All right. So up to this point, it sounds pretty good, right? Everybody wins. US companies get to sell their stuff, people get jobs to make that stuff, and the US government makes a profit for the taxpayers on the loans it floats. Win/win, right?


Nope.


First, Ex-Im isn't really making a profit. They are using accounting tricks. You can read about those tricks here. Ex-Im is actually operating at a loss.


Okay but...JOBS! (applause)


Well, it turns out that Ex-Im pretty much only benefits gigantic US corporations and not small businesses. Why do gigantic US corporations need this kind of government handout ("corporate welfare")?


They don't. In fact, their advantages are coming at a cost to other US businesses, and this is where the unlevel playing field becomes most evident.


For the most part, Ex-Im loans aren't really being made to shit hole entities or countries. They are being made to entities and countries which could very easily get reasonably low interest loans without the Ex-Im bank. So the Ex-Im bank is actually providing a below market loan to these countries and entities that don't really need a leg up, and that, ladies and gentlemen, is an unfair business practice, no?


By far the biggest beneficiary of Ex-Im is Boeing.


The simple story of the Export-Import Bank only guaranteeing purchases for businesses without access to adequate capital doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. Between 2004 and 2013, airlines from the UAE, India, and South Korea each received more than $3 billion in Export Import authorizations, while airlines from Hong Kong, Chile, China, Ethiopia, Luxembourg (freighters), and Turkey all received $1.5-3 billion in authorizations 2004-2013. With the exception of Ethiopia, none of the countries on that list would have suffered constrained access to capital. Emirates, LAN, Turkish Airlines, Korean Airand the like would have no trouble finding reasonable commercial financing almost anywhere in the world. Even perennial financial basket case Air India would have been able to find takers given the implicit backing of the Indian government behind it.



By being able to get a loan at below market rates, the favored airline carriers are provided a significant cost advantage relative to their competitors.


And there is your unlevel playing field, boys and girls. All in the service of Boeing. That is rank cronyism of the worst sort.


These are the sort of complicated and messy things which need to be extricated from our legislative morass. Raising taxes won’t solve this problem. That is a simpleton’s answer to everything. The real solutions will take hard work, and there are not enough people around right now who aren’t afraid of some hard work. There are too many bumper stick intellects looking for easy answers to hard problems.
 
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Now watch this:



Notice the prominence of Caterpillar:

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Caterpillar: $1.3 billion in loans just in 2013 alone.

And then note what Obama said about Ex-Im in the 2008 campaign:

I am not a Democrat who believes that we can or should defend every government program just because it's there. There are some that don't work like we had hoped - like the Bush Administration's billion- dollar-a-year reading program that hasn't improved our children's reading. And there are some that have been duplicated by other programs that we just need to cut back - like waste at the Economic Development Agency and the Export-Import Bank that has become little more than a fund for corporate welfare.

But then look who Obama hired for his Economic Recovery Advisory Board immediately after his 2009 inauguration:

President Obama named an Economic Recovery Advisory Board Friday that includes such marquee names as GE chief executive Jeffrey R. Immelt, AFL-CIO leader Richard L. Trumka and Harvard’s Martin Feldstein.

Other members include Jim Owens, chairman and CEO of Caterpillar Inc.; Roger W. Ferguson Jr., president and CEO of TIAA-CREF; Monica C. Lozano, publisher of La Opinion; and Penny Pritzker, chairman and founder of the Pritzker Realty Group.

A big beneficiary of Ex-Im's cronyism is selected by Obama to be one of his advisers on how to get the country going again.

Now look what Obama did for Ex-Im just this past August!

In this week’s address, the President highlighted the progress made towards rebuilding our economy, including the creation of nearly 10 million new private sector jobs in the past 53 months and the rise in the number of American exports to an all-time high. That growth is in part thanks to the actions of the U.S. Export-Import Bank, an organization that creates American jobs by helping to take American businesses global. The charter of the Export-Import Bank is slated to expire next month, unless Members of Congress renew it, as has happened 16 times in the past with support from Democrats and Republicans. The President asked business owners and employees to reach out to their representatives, who are home this month, and let them know how important it is that the Export-Import Bank continue its work so that American businesses can continue to grow.

Is that a fucking curious flip-flop, or what?
 
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I have said the real problem is not that the rich aren't being taxed enough. The real problem is thatsome players are given a legislative field that has been radically tilted in their favor.

There are 2 problems- not enough taxes coming in, and the rich not paying enough. What we have now is basically a flat tax, everyone paying about 21% in ALL taxes and fees, with the richest getting 95% of the wealth being generated, and the rest slowly going broke.

Same goes for large corporations and small businesses.

NO Obama flip flop.
 
NO Obama flip flop.

There most certainly is an Obama flip-flop. In 2008, he said he believe Ex-Im was corporate welfare. Now he says it needs to continue.

It does not get more flip-flop than that.
 
I forgot to link to Obama's 2008 campaign speech in my OP: Sen. Barack Obama Speaks at Campaign Event in Green Bay Wisconsin
I am not a Democrat who believes that we can or should defend every government program just because it's there. There are some that don't work like we had hoped - like the Bush Administration's billion- dollar-a-year reading program that hasn't improved our children's reading. And there are some that have been duplicated by other programs that we just need to cut back - like waste at the Economic Development Agency and the Export-Import Bank that has become little more than a fund for corporate welfare.



Fast forward to 2014: Weekly Address: The Export-Import Bank
We should be doing everything we can to accelerate this progress, not stall it.

One place to start is by supporting something called the U.S. Export-Import Bank. Its sole mission is to create American jobs.

JOBS! (applause)
 
The difference may be who's in charge of the bank, Boooshie regulators or Obama ones. Vive la difference!
You saw the figures for 2013, right?

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
 
What did you expect, a communist revolution? Incremental changes and more help for small business ARE important. Caterpillar has been a big success story lately, instrumental in 3rd world and competing with China.
 
Some other observations about the Export-Import Bank.


House Majority Leader Eric Cantor lost his job in the Republican primary last year in large part because he was a big supporter of Ex-Im. He also lost in large part because he didn't hate Mexicans enough, but he was in fact defeated by a Libertarian economics professor who made it plain he wants to ax murder Ex-Im.

The day after Cantor's shocking defeat, Boeing stock had the largest stock drop of the day.

The new House Majority Leader, Kevin McCarthy, is in favor of closing Ex-Im.

The new House Republican Whip is supposedly a tea partier. It will be his job to whip the House Republicans into voting for any bill which would shut down Ex-Im.

Ex-Im was put on life support during the last budget-versus-shutdown debacle. It's life was extended until June in a move which separated it from the rest of the budget. A kind of "we have to save it so we can kill it" parliamentarian trick.
 
What did you expect, a communist revolution? Incremental changes and more help for small business ARE important. Caterpillar has been a big success story lately, instrumental in 3rd world and competing with China.
Expect? I suspect Obama was bought. Just like most every other politician is upon arrival in DC.

Caterpillar does not need Congress tilting the playing field in its favor. It is cronyism which favors one company which has political connections at the expense of other businesses which do not.
 
Caterpillar has been a big success story lately, instrumental in 3rd world and competing with China.

This statement smacks of, "If we don't do it, someone else (China) will." The same attitude which corrupted the secondary mortgage market and brought the whole house down on our heads.
 
Which party has tried to kill Ex/Im? Yes it has nothing to do with the supsed income gap and everything to do with crony capitalism.
 
Which party has tried to kill Ex/Im? Yes it has nothing to do with the supsed income gap and everything to do with crony capitalism.
It has to do with both. When you tilt the playing field, wealth flows downhill to the advantaged. You end up with an unnatural accumulation of wealth for the cronies at the expense of their competitors.

The GOP has a shot at killing Ex-Im this June. Let's see what happens. Perhaps a gander at political contributions made by Boeing and Caterpillar and other cronies would be revealing.
 
Let's visit Thad Cochran's official Senate web page and see which side he comes down on in the Ex-Im fight: Mississippi lawmakers support Ex-Im Bank - In the News - News - Senator Thad Cochran

Republican Sens. Thad Cochran and Roger Wicker say the bank is vital to state and national economies.

“The Export-Import Bank has played an important role in keeping American businesses globally competitive against foreign companies whose governments aggressively attempt to undercut U.S. products,” Cochran said. “The bank has an important role to play in both protecting American jobs and fostering an environment that helps create new jobs.”

Quelle surprise!
 

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