The European socialist success

European health care sucks.
Long waiting lines,
Long waiting times that are less then Americas
Canada outranks U.S. in healthcare report card | Reuters

cancer survival rate after 5 years, low 47% compared to the U.S at 66%.

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/usr_doc/Shea_hltsysperformanceselectednations_chartpack.pdf
Core Health Indicators
http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/RL34175_20070917.pdf
OECD Health Data 2011 - Frequently Requested Data
==Academic standards show America has worse healthcare then other countries.
USA compared to government health care. (all statistics are per capita).
Where America is worse.
1) America has 50% more Medical errors.
2) America is worst in preventable deaths. If America was like government health care 200,000 people would be saved a year.
3) America has 2 million more medical bankruptcies compared to 0.
4) America has 26% less doctors.
5) America has 4% less nurses.
6) America has 46% less hospital beds.
7) America saw half the life expectancy change than countries who changed to government health care.
8) Infant mortality rates are 17% higher in America.
9) America has 100% less Psychiatric care beds.
10) America has 20% less people who go to hospitals.
11) America has 26% more years of life lost due to medical reasons.
12) America has 40% more Respiratory deaths
13) US Tuberculosis treatment success is 10% less
14) 50% more infant deaths
15) 30% more asthma deaths
16) 40% more years lost due to medical conditions
17) 100% more diabetes deaths
15) 50% more deaths by children taken to a hospital for a medical reason


Nice list, but as european I smell a bit of BS. For example no way that 3) is true. Health care is not FREE all over europe (even the governmental care costs), and to my knowledge pretty much all European countries have private sector health care alongside public.
There is a difference between free and people going bankrupt. So learn English plz

The public health care system is pretty terrible. No accountability and pretty much no control for the patient. The level of service has been for me comparable to what you would expect from used cars salesman. It would probably be wiser to compare private HC in europe vs private health care in europe. Because pretty much everyone agrees that private is better. Not a surprise considering you get to choose things if you go private route. Don't like a doctor? Don't go there!
Yes government helalth care costing less and having better outcomes then private meanas private is better. So if you think dying and wasting money is good then you like private helath care


I personally think that it's better idea to give poor people enough money to afford health care. I have been poor, yet I think it's wiser to not get public care, unless you have some very common problems. Governmental care can not be as efficient as private, because there is just no way to organize it in a way that pleases everyone, also there is no competition which leads to major "attitude" problems and poor service. In fact in a way the worse service the public health sector gives you, the better it is for them.

I see so despite government care being better then private care you say govrement care cant be better.
Come back when you’ve entered reality
 
If the shoe fits you must wear it faggot.:lol:

So that means you wear shoes labeled “Iam a drunk dumbass” because they fit.
Here is a tip if you are going to insult people try to make your insults coherent but I bet that it is impossible for you to say things that hold up to logic and intelligence.

You wouldn't know what intelligence was if it pissed on your face faggot.:lol:

Since you know how it feels to get pissed on plz tell us
 
So that means you wear shoes labeled “Iam a drunk dumbass” because they fit.
Here is a tip if you are going to insult people try to make your insults coherent but I bet that it is impossible for you to say things that hold up to logic and intelligence.

You wouldn't know what intelligence was if it pissed on your face faggot.:lol:

Since you know how it feels to get pissed on plz tell us

Open your mouth faggot, here it comes.:lol: :piss2:
 
Hell, yeah. Those socialist Europeans are winning! Just take a look at Greece, Spain, Italy and France! They have rock solid healthy economies....well, except for the entire Euro crisis from debt riddlied members from social programs never paid for.....

Yep who knew that following republican economic polciies would be bad for the economy

Actually, EU members were already in the toilet from socialist policies. That's how repubs got elected to try and clean it up. But no one ever wants to face the music. Just look at Greece. You're advocating somethign you have no fucking clue about. You can always go work over in the EU and find out what it's all about.

So having higher living standards, and less debt is now being in the toilet..
Yep look at Greece whose in a depression because they are slashing government spending.
Perhaps the problem is that you are an idiot who has no clue what shes talking about
 
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Long waiting times that are less then Americas
Canada outranks U.S. in healthcare report card | Reuters



http://www.commonwealthfund.org/usr_doc/Shea_hltsysperformanceselectednations_chartpack.pdf
Core Health Indicators
http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/RL34175_20070917.pdf
OECD Health Data 2011 - Frequently Requested Data
==Academic standards show America has worse healthcare then other countries.
USA compared to government health care. (all statistics are per capita).
Where America is worse.
1) America has 50% more Medical errors.
2) America is worst in preventable deaths. If America was like government health care 200,000 people would be saved a year.
3) America has 2 million more medical bankruptcies compared to 0.
4) America has 26% less doctors.
5) America has 4% less nurses.
6) America has 46% less hospital beds.
7) America saw half the life expectancy change than countries who changed to government health care.
8) Infant mortality rates are 17% higher in America.
9) America has 100% less Psychiatric care beds.
10) America has 20% less people who go to hospitals.
11) America has 26% more years of life lost due to medical reasons.
12) America has 40% more Respiratory deaths
13) US Tuberculosis treatment success is 10% less
14) 50% more infant deaths
15) 30% more asthma deaths
16) 40% more years lost due to medical conditions
17) 100% more diabetes deaths
15) 50% more deaths by children taken to a hospital for a medical reason


Nice list, but as european I smell a bit of BS. For example no way that 3) is true. Health care is not FREE all over europe (even the governmental care costs), and to my knowledge pretty much all European countries have private sector health care alongside public.
There is a difference between free and people going bankrupt. So learn English plz

The public health care system is pretty terrible. No accountability and pretty much no control for the patient. The level of service has been for me comparable to what you would expect from used cars salesman. It would probably be wiser to compare private HC in europe vs private health care in europe. Because pretty much everyone agrees that private is better. Not a surprise considering you get to choose things if you go private route. Don't like a doctor? Don't go there!
Yes government helalth care costing less and having better outcomes then private meanas private is better. So if you think dying and wasting money is good then you like private helath care


I personally think that it's better idea to give poor people enough money to afford health care. I have been poor, yet I think it's wiser to not get public care, unless you have some very common problems. Governmental care can not be as efficient as private, because there is just no way to organize it in a way that pleases everyone, also there is no competition which leads to major "attitude" problems and poor service. In fact in a way the worse service the public health sector gives you, the better it is for them.

I see so despite government care being better then private care you say govrement care cant be better.
Come back when you’ve entered reality

Ah. Should have knows you were a troll.
 
Nice list, but as european I smell a bit of BS. For example no way that 3) is true. Health care is not FREE all over europe (even the governmental care costs), and to my knowledge pretty much all European countries have private sector health care alongside public.
There is a difference between free and people going bankrupt. So learn English plz


Yes government helalth care costing less and having better outcomes then private meanas private is better. So if you think dying and wasting money is good then you like private helath care


I personally think that it's better idea to give poor people enough money to afford health care. I have been poor, yet I think it's wiser to not get public care, unless you have some very common problems. Governmental care can not be as efficient as private, because there is just no way to organize it in a way that pleases everyone, also there is no competition which leads to major "attitude" problems and poor service. In fact in a way the worse service the public health sector gives you, the better it is for them.

I see so despite government care being better then private care you say govrement care cant be better.
Come back when you’ve entered reality

Ah. Should have knows you were a troll.

Yep you being ignorant and posting stupid shit makes me a troll
Yep you being ignorant and posting stupid shit makes me a troll
How trollish of you responding to facts with “youa re a troll”
 
There is a difference between free and people going bankrupt. So learn English plz


Yes government helalth care costing less and having better outcomes then private meanas private is better. So if you think dying and wasting money is good then you like private helath care




I see so despite government care being better then private care you say govrement care cant be better.
Come back when you’ve entered reality

Ah. Should have knows you were a troll.

Yep you being ignorant and posting stupid shit makes me a troll
Yep you being ignorant and posting stupid shit makes me a troll
How trollish of you responding to facts with “youa re a troll”

You barely speak English faggot, you are not an American you are just here to type bullshit. You are dismissed.
 
The main goal of an economy is to increase living standards, of which the European socialists experiment has done far better then its American counterpart.
European countries spend 6,600 less per capital on health care despite having better health outcomes, 1,600 less on the military, 1,600 less on police/courts/jail despite having less crime 1,800 less on education despite having higher test scores, 3,400 less on transportation, 600 more on electricity due to more efficient appliances/buildings, and 500less on internet/phone services despite having faster service. Europeans also live 3 years longer resulting in 3 years more goods consumed, have 120 more hours of free time yearly, and have cleaner cities/less pollution. Also the bottom 90% of the population get a total of 13 percentage points more of total income. When you add all these things up Europeans living standards are 36% higher then Americans.

Do you have a credible link to back this up with? Oh, and you forgot to mention that the single currency is now nothing more than a hostage situation.

Per Capita Health Expenditures by Country, 2007 — Infoplease.com
Growth in health spending slows in many OECD countries, according to OECD Health Data 2008
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/
Incarceration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Google Answers: Crime rates for different countries
Worldwide education and library spending [OCLC]
STPP: Reports
http://dieoff.org/page230.pdf
Why is European broadband faster and cheaper? Blame the government -- Engadget
The Research School of Economics - RSE - ANU

Awesome.

First, you post the stats.

This is followed by a dozen or so meaningless responses to the general theme of "You suck", "I don't believe you", and "prove it". A lot by some chick who's claim to brilliance is how much beer she can drink from a 16 oz'er with a nipple attached.

You follow with a full reference list for every presented detail.

You win, hands down. You are the man.
 

Awesome.

First, you post the stats.

This is followed by a dozen or so meaningless responses to the general theme of "You suck", "I don't believe you", and "prove it". A lot by some chick who's claim to brilliance is how much beer she can drink from a 16 oz'er with a nipple attached.

You follow with a full reference list for every presented detail.

You win, hands down. You are the man.

You can stop sucking his dick now, he gets it you agree with his bullshit.
 
The OP talks about;

Living standards; health care, military, crime, education, transportation, electricity , internet/phone servicew, life expectancy, free time, pollution, and total income. That is eleve specific categories of standard of living, which he provides a specific measure of each.

High_Gravity's typical response is;

You barely speak English faggot, you are not an American you are just here to type bullshit. You are dismissed.

Good god, could you just stop already. You've managed to create more posts then anyone without adding a single intelligent idea.

You prove the very point of the failure of American education.

The display of intelligence by High_Gravity on this thread,

How much information does it contain regarding the OP's, eleven detailed and specific topics?

High_Gravity said:
01) "How about you move to Greece? I'm told Greece is doing well."

02) "What about the Ukraine? I heard their quality of life is off the charts from the numerous Ukranian cab drivers and strippers I have spoken to in New York and Baltimore"


03) "I heard the women in Budapest are smoking hot, maybe Hungary?"

04) "HAHAHA not that I noticed, actually the strippers from the Ukraine are quite nice, thats probably their best export."

05) "Actually I heard Ireland's economy is doing good, can anyone verify this?"

06) "I wouldn't mind going by there and drinking some original Irish Guiness"

07) "You are a stupid ass bitch who has never left the US, you are a spoiled baby and you have no idea which countries really "blow""

08) "The OP is a spoiled pampered baby who has been living in the US his whole life, he has no idea what a shitty living standard really is"

09) "Spoiled American babies always think other countries are 1000 times better than what we have."

10) "From what I understand Sweden doesn't have a very high number of people so they can afford to just take care of everyone like that, there are some people in the US who dream of the US being like that. I wouldn't want to move to Sweden because of the cold alone."

11) "Sweden took in a large number of Iraqi refugees and Somalis as well, the fabric of that country will change if they don't get it under control."

12) "If it was the other way around and everything was reversed, and Westerners like us and the Swedes had to go to Iraq and Somalia as refugees, we would be placed in refugee camps and not allowed to be citizens, look at the Palestinians in Lebanon as an example, they have been there for decades and they are STILL in refugee camps and not allowed citizenship."

13) "Yes, the OP is a fat spoiled American baby with a full belly and a shit filled pamper."

14) "You are the only one I see crying bitch"

15) "If you keep this up you will win the title of the most Retarded Poster."

16) "Well you are a bitch so what else am I supposed to call you? Lassie?"

17) "If the shoe fits you must wear it faggot."

18) "You wouldn't know what intelligence was if it pissed on your face faggot."

19) "Open your mouth faggot, here it comes."

20) "You barely speak English faggot, you are not an American you are just here to type bullshit. You are dismissed"

That is nineteen comments containing absolutely nothing to do with the original topic. (One manages to be a vague potential reference.)

There are ten references to a country (Greece, Ukraine, Budapest, Hungary, Ireland, Sweden, Iraq, Somalia, Palestine, and Lebanon) with no reference to any of the eleven specific detailed measures of a country's standard of living. Of course, a few of these are not in Europe, like Iraq, Somalia, Lebanon, and Palestine.

Seems like you stopped learning once you memorized the list of world countries.

Zero references to any of the eleven measures of standard of living.

You do include cab drives, Irish Guiness, women, and strippers. You do reference refugees a few times, though only one is a vague reference to Europe.

You include a number, "1000 times" which is meaningless because nothing in the measures of living standards are 1000 times anything.

You do manage to get in one vauge reference, ""Sweden took in a large number of Iraqi refugees and Somalis as well, the fabric of that country will change if they don't get it under control."

And all this, useless presentation of what might otherwise be real topics, includes;

There bitch references, "stupid ass bitch", bitch, and "crying bitch".

Four spoiled baby references; "spoiled baby", "spoiled pampered baby", "Spoiled American babie", "fat spoiled American baby".

One poop reference, "shit filled pamper".

One "Retarded"

Four usages of "faggot"

And, one "bullshit".

Really, the main theme seems to be beer drinking spoiled retard baby with shit filled pampers.

Sounds like a good description of High_Gravity, a beer drinking spoiled retard baby with shit filled pampers.

And a clear example of the failed American education system.
 
The OP talks about;

Living standards; health care, military, crime, education, transportation, electricity , internet/phone servicew, life expectancy, free time, pollution, and total income. That is eleve specific categories of standard of living, which he provides a specific measure of each.

High_Gravity's typical response is;

You barely speak English faggot, you are not an American you are just here to type bullshit. You are dismissed.

Good god, could you just stop already. You've managed to create more posts then anyone without adding a single intelligent idea.

You prove the very point of the failure of American education.

The display of intelligence by High_Gravity on this thread,

How much information does it contain regarding the OP's, eleven detailed and specific topics?

High_Gravity said:
01) "How about you move to Greece? I'm told Greece is doing well."

02) "What about the Ukraine? I heard their quality of life is off the charts from the numerous Ukranian cab drivers and strippers I have spoken to in New York and Baltimore"


03) "I heard the women in Budapest are smoking hot, maybe Hungary?"

04) "HAHAHA not that I noticed, actually the strippers from the Ukraine are quite nice, thats probably their best export."

05) "Actually I heard Ireland's economy is doing good, can anyone verify this?"

06) "I wouldn't mind going by there and drinking some original Irish Guiness"

07) "You are a stupid ass bitch who has never left the US, you are a spoiled baby and you have no idea which countries really "blow""

08) "The OP is a spoiled pampered baby who has been living in the US his whole life, he has no idea what a shitty living standard really is"

09) "Spoiled American babies always think other countries are 1000 times better than what we have."

10) "From what I understand Sweden doesn't have a very high number of people so they can afford to just take care of everyone like that, there are some people in the US who dream of the US being like that. I wouldn't want to move to Sweden because of the cold alone."

11) "Sweden took in a large number of Iraqi refugees and Somalis as well, the fabric of that country will change if they don't get it under control."

12) "If it was the other way around and everything was reversed, and Westerners like us and the Swedes had to go to Iraq and Somalia as refugees, we would be placed in refugee camps and not allowed to be citizens, look at the Palestinians in Lebanon as an example, they have been there for decades and they are STILL in refugee camps and not allowed citizenship."

13) "Yes, the OP is a fat spoiled American baby with a full belly and a shit filled pamper."

14) "You are the only one I see crying bitch"

15) "If you keep this up you will win the title of the most Retarded Poster."

16) "Well you are a bitch so what else am I supposed to call you? Lassie?"

17) "If the shoe fits you must wear it faggot."

18) "You wouldn't know what intelligence was if it pissed on your face faggot."

19) "Open your mouth faggot, here it comes."

20) "You barely speak English faggot, you are not an American you are just here to type bullshit. You are dismissed"

That is nineteen comments containing absolutely nothing to do with the original topic. (One manages to be a vague potential reference.)

There are ten references to a country (Greece, Ukraine, Budapest, Hungary, Ireland, Sweden, Iraq, Somalia, Palestine, and Lebanon) with no reference to any of the eleven specific detailed measures of a country's standard of living. Of course, a few of these are not in Europe, like Iraq, Somalia, Lebanon, and Palestine.

Seems like you stopped learning once you memorized the list of world countries.

Zero references to any of the eleven measures of standard of living.

You do include cab drives, Irish Guiness, women, and strippers. You do reference refugees a few times, though only one is a vague reference to Europe.

You include a number, "1000 times" which is meaningless because nothing in the measures of living standards are 1000 times anything.

You do manage to get in one vauge reference, ""Sweden took in a large number of Iraqi refugees and Somalis as well, the fabric of that country will change if they don't get it under control."

And all this, useless presentation of what might otherwise be real topics, includes;

There bitch references, "stupid ass bitch", bitch, and "crying bitch".

Four spoiled baby references; "spoiled baby", "spoiled pampered baby", "Spoiled American babie", "fat spoiled American baby".

One poop reference, "shit filled pamper".

One "Retarded"

Four usages of "faggot"

And, one "bullshit".

Really, the main theme seems to be beer drinking spoiled retard baby with shit filled pampers.

Sounds like a good description of High_Gravity, a beer drinking spoiled retard baby with shit filled pampers.

And a clear example of the failed American education system.

I await High_Gravitys response of“ you a re a bitch faggot LOL”
 
That's why Europe has such a high suicide rate, everyone loves it so much.

Just because I have a nosy streak, I loved to watch Househunters International, where people from one country look to buy a place in another country. The homes considered luxurious by european standards are hovels compared to public housing in the states.
Just a quick reference, wikipedia has

41 United States 11.8 2008

Ahead of

61 United Kingdom 6.9 2009

Though behind

16 Switzerland 18.0 2007

Do we have an entire Europe vs US stat?
 
The OP talks about;

Living standards; health care, military, crime, education, transportation, electricity , internet/phone servicew, life expectancy, free time, pollution, and total income. That is eleve specific categories of standard of living, which he provides a specific measure of each.

High_Gravity's typical response is;

You barely speak English faggot, you are not an American you are just here to type bullshit. You are dismissed.

Good god, could you just stop already. You've managed to create more posts then anyone without adding a single intelligent idea.

You prove the very point of the failure of American education.

The display of intelligence by High_Gravity on this thread,

How much information does it contain regarding the OP's, eleven detailed and specific topics?

High_Gravity said:
01) "How about you move to Greece? I'm told Greece is doing well."

02) "What about the Ukraine? I heard their quality of life is off the charts from the numerous Ukranian cab drivers and strippers I have spoken to in New York and Baltimore"


03) "I heard the women in Budapest are smoking hot, maybe Hungary?"

04) "HAHAHA not that I noticed, actually the strippers from the Ukraine are quite nice, thats probably their best export."

05) "Actually I heard Ireland's economy is doing good, can anyone verify this?"

06) "I wouldn't mind going by there and drinking some original Irish Guiness"

07) "You are a stupid ass bitch who has never left the US, you are a spoiled baby and you have no idea which countries really "blow""

08) "The OP is a spoiled pampered baby who has been living in the US his whole life, he has no idea what a shitty living standard really is"

09) "Spoiled American babies always think other countries are 1000 times better than what we have."

10) "From what I understand Sweden doesn't have a very high number of people so they can afford to just take care of everyone like that, there are some people in the US who dream of the US being like that. I wouldn't want to move to Sweden because of the cold alone."

11) "Sweden took in a large number of Iraqi refugees and Somalis as well, the fabric of that country will change if they don't get it under control."

12) "If it was the other way around and everything was reversed, and Westerners like us and the Swedes had to go to Iraq and Somalia as refugees, we would be placed in refugee camps and not allowed to be citizens, look at the Palestinians in Lebanon as an example, they have been there for decades and they are STILL in refugee camps and not allowed citizenship."

13) "Yes, the OP is a fat spoiled American baby with a full belly and a shit filled pamper."

14) "You are the only one I see crying bitch"

15) "If you keep this up you will win the title of the most Retarded Poster."

16) "Well you are a bitch so what else am I supposed to call you? Lassie?"

17) "If the shoe fits you must wear it faggot."

18) "You wouldn't know what intelligence was if it pissed on your face faggot."

19) "Open your mouth faggot, here it comes."

20) "You barely speak English faggot, you are not an American you are just here to type bullshit. You are dismissed"

That is nineteen comments containing absolutely nothing to do with the original topic. (One manages to be a vague potential reference.)

There are ten references to a country (Greece, Ukraine, Budapest, Hungary, Ireland, Sweden, Iraq, Somalia, Palestine, and Lebanon) with no reference to any of the eleven specific detailed measures of a country's standard of living. Of course, a few of these are not in Europe, like Iraq, Somalia, Lebanon, and Palestine.

Seems like you stopped learning once you memorized the list of world countries.

Zero references to any of the eleven measures of standard of living.

You do include cab drives, Irish Guiness, women, and strippers. You do reference refugees a few times, though only one is a vague reference to Europe.

You include a number, "1000 times" which is meaningless because nothing in the measures of living standards are 1000 times anything.

You do manage to get in one vauge reference, ""Sweden took in a large number of Iraqi refugees and Somalis as well, the fabric of that country will change if they don't get it under control."

And all this, useless presentation of what might otherwise be real topics, includes;

There bitch references, "stupid ass bitch", bitch, and "crying bitch".

Four spoiled baby references; "spoiled baby", "spoiled pampered baby", "Spoiled American babie", "fat spoiled American baby".

One poop reference, "shit filled pamper".

One "Retarded"

Four usages of "faggot"

And, one "bullshit".

Really, the main theme seems to be beer drinking spoiled retard baby with shit filled pampers.

Sounds like a good description of High_Gravity, a beer drinking spoiled retard baby with shit filled pampers.

And a clear example of the failed American education system.

Looks like I am in your head now my little sugar. :dance: here open your mouth. :piss2:
 
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Who sustains the system in Europe?

The wealthy and big corporations? Wrong answer

The top marginal corporate tax rate in countries like Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands, Austria... is around 25%, a record low. Germany has cut it in half since 2000; with a federal corporate tax rate of 15%.

No, consumers and workers sustain the system. According to Eurostat, taxes on consumption are the largest source of revenue in the European Union. In fact, Brussels does not allow any EU member state to cut the VAT below 15%. Only 1/6 of revenue come from taxes on capital.

The corporate tax rate in Europe has been consistenly cut in the last 10-20 years. While taxes on consumption and labour remain the same or higher.

Our tax codes are less progressive. According to the OECD (not a libertarian right-wing organization) the top 10% of households in America pays 45% of all taxes. A larger share than in any other OECD member: 31% in Germany; 28% in France; 27% in Sweden... 21% in Switzerland (swiss federal tax rates are very low; most taxes are paid to local/canton administration).

Even the ratio of taxes paid by the US wealthy to their share of market is the highest one: 1.35 (vs. an OECD average of 1.11)

The Tax Foundation - No Country Leans on Upper-Income Households as Much as U.S.

And the main reason behind it is the lack of a national sales tax in America (thank God!) ;)
 
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Immigration and citizenship laws may be a factor in higher income inequality in America. The US population grows by 3 million per year: 248 million in 1990; 314 million in 2012.
 
A national value added tax (VAT) has the merit of having everyone contribute to the system. There seems to be growing resentment in the US towards those who pay nothing.
 
Some new shit. Some activities are not included in GDP such as volunteering gardening and cooking etc etc yet they all add to living standards so a study measured the added value all these things add to the economies of European countries and America they found that this would increase American GDP by 20% compared to 30% for Europe; meaning Europe would have 10% higher GDP.
Home Work, GDP, and Family Values: It's Nice to be Validated | Angry Bear - Financial and Economic Commentary

At least your honest this time, what you posted was indeed shit.
 
Some new shit. Some activities are not included in GDP such as volunteering gardening and cooking etc etc yet they all add to living standards so a study measured the added value all these things add to the economies of European countries and America they found that this would increase American GDP by 20% compared to 30% for Europe; meaning Europe would have 10% higher GDP.
Home Work, GDP, and Family Values: It's Nice to be Validated | Angry Bear - Financial and Economic Commentary

At least your honest this time, what you posted was indeed shit.

Ah and your one liners that only contain insults is so intelligent.. well its intelligent for you.
Furthermore with the new numbers Europeans living standards are 40% higher then Americans.
 
Ohhh now we know why obama liked Julia so much, she spent her retirement years at the community garden.

What a pantload.
 

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