The Ebola Heroes

I think that anyone that has come in direct contact with an Ebola victim that is contagious should self isolate. And anyone that has come in contact with an Ebola victim that is not contagious need not isolate but should take their temperature daily and be made aware of symptoms to watch for.

Governors Cuomo and Christie disagree with you, but then what do they know.
Apparently not much. Cuomo faces an upcoming election and Christie a presidential campaign. They will propose whatever will appease the public. Many people have no faith in what the government says even thou it's supported by sound medical science. With elections just around the corner, many politicians seeking the votes of these people are proposing travel bans, 21 day quarantines, 24 day quarantines, and whatever it takes to gather a few more votes.
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There is ample evidence to support the claim that body fluid transfer is necessary to contract the disease. A study was conducted in Kikwit in the Republic of the Congo in 1995 with the same strain of virus we see today to determine the risk factors to family members with an Ebola patient. 27 households in which someone had been infected with the Ebola virus were studied. Of the 173 members in the households, 78 members had no direct contract with the Ebola patient and not a single one contracted the virus. None of the family members that were close to Thomas Eric Duncan, contracted the disease. This pattern has been confirmed throughout the epidemic in West Africa. The disease is only spread through the transmission of body fluids. People who have no direct contact with the infected person are no danger. Even people with casual contact in the early stages are extremely unlikely to contract the disease.

Transmission of Ebola hemorrhagic fever a stud... J Infect Dis. 1999 - PubMed - NCBI

Actually, they both are Governors and probably take the responsibility of protecting millions of citizens in their states from a deadly virus. It is called leadership, which there is none of in the White House. I only hope that the Governors of the other states that have health care workers returning from West Africa that were caring for Epola patients to exercise the same precaution.

It is pitiful that Obama is to busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to be bothered.

Perhaps you should read this:

Ebola can spread by air in cold, dry weather common to the U.S. but not West Africa, presenting a “possible, serious threat” to the public, according to two studies by U.S. Army scientists.

After successfully exposing monkeys to airborne Ebola, which “caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days,” scientists with the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) concluded Ebola can spread through air but likely hasn’t in Equatorial Africa because the region is too warm, with temperatures rarely dropping below 65°F.

“We… demonstrated aerosol transmission of Ebola virus at lower temperature and humidity than that normally present in sub-Saharan Africa,” the 1995 study entitled Lethal Experimental Infections of Rhesus Monkeys by Aerosolized Ebola Virus reported. “Ebola virus sensitivity to the high temperatures and humidity in the thatched, mud, and wattle huts shared by infected family members in southern Sudan and northern Zaire may have been a factor limiting aerosol transmission of Ebola virus in the African epidemics.”

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

It is interesting to note this outbreak occurred in December 1989, whentemperatures in Reston were usually below freezing, and it’s unlikely the indoor temperature in the vast quarantine facility was much higher.
A decent study and a logical assumption linked together to come up with a totally erroneous conclusion.

Body fluids are expelled into the air by sneezing and coughing. Sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola and does not carry dense body fluids. Coughing is not an early symptom. By the time someone is hacking up fluids, there're going to be vomiting with uncontrolled diarrhea and probably have bleeding skin liaisons. You might run into someone like this in a street in Nigeria but not in the US.

In the lab experiments, monkeys were forced to cough continually exposing other monkeys that were 6 to 18 inches away. Monkeys further away were unaffected. So assuming that you came in contact with an Ebola victim, just how likely is that the patient would be coughing into your face from a short distance for long periods of time while you inhaled the body fluids. Possible? Yes, about as possible as the Tea Party endorsing Hillary Clinton.

If you really want to worry about something then you should be concerned about this virus spreading throughout Africa and to other countries. The more it replicates the more likely it is to mutate to an airborne virus. If this happens death tolls will run into the tens of millions if not higher and there will be no way to contain it. The influenza epidemic in 1918 killed in access of 650,000 Americans and 20 to 40 million worldwide in just 2 years. Even thou we have vaccines against influenza, 3 to 5 million a year die.

Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.
 
Governors Cuomo and Christie disagree with you, but then what do they know.
Apparently not much. Cuomo faces an upcoming election and Christie a presidential campaign. They will propose whatever will appease the public. Many people have no faith in what the government says even thou it's supported by sound medical science. With elections just around the corner, many politicians seeking the votes of these people are proposing travel bans, 21 day quarantines, 24 day quarantines, and whatever it takes to gather a few more votes.
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There is ample evidence to support the claim that body fluid transfer is necessary to contract the disease. A study was conducted in Kikwit in the Republic of the Congo in 1995 with the same strain of virus we see today to determine the risk factors to family members with an Ebola patient. 27 households in which someone had been infected with the Ebola virus were studied. Of the 173 members in the households, 78 members had no direct contract with the Ebola patient and not a single one contracted the virus. None of the family members that were close to Thomas Eric Duncan, contracted the disease. This pattern has been confirmed throughout the epidemic in West Africa. The disease is only spread through the transmission of body fluids. People who have no direct contact with the infected person are no danger. Even people with casual contact in the early stages are extremely unlikely to contract the disease.

Transmission of Ebola hemorrhagic fever a stud... J Infect Dis. 1999 - PubMed - NCBI

Actually, they both are Governors and probably take the responsibility of protecting millions of citizens in their states from a deadly virus. It is called leadership, which there is none of in the White House. I only hope that the Governors of the other states that have health care workers returning from West Africa that were caring for Epola patients to exercise the same precaution.

It is pitiful that Obama is to busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to be bothered.

Perhaps you should read this:

Ebola can spread by air in cold, dry weather common to the U.S. but not West Africa, presenting a “possible, serious threat” to the public, according to two studies by U.S. Army scientists.

After successfully exposing monkeys to airborne Ebola, which “caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days,” scientists with the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) concluded Ebola can spread through air but likely hasn’t in Equatorial Africa because the region is too warm, with temperatures rarely dropping below 65°F.

“We… demonstrated aerosol transmission of Ebola virus at lower temperature and humidity than that normally present in sub-Saharan Africa,” the 1995 study entitled Lethal Experimental Infections of Rhesus Monkeys by Aerosolized Ebola Virus reported. “Ebola virus sensitivity to the high temperatures and humidity in the thatched, mud, and wattle huts shared by infected family members in southern Sudan and northern Zaire may have been a factor limiting aerosol transmission of Ebola virus in the African epidemics.”

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

It is interesting to note this outbreak occurred in December 1989, whentemperatures in Reston were usually below freezing, and it’s unlikely the indoor temperature in the vast quarantine facility was much higher.
A decent study and a logical assumption linked together to come up with a totally erroneous conclusion.

Body fluids are expelled into the air by sneezing and coughing. Sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola and does not carry dense body fluids. Coughing is not an early symptom. By the time someone is hacking up fluids, there're going to be vomiting with uncontrolled diarrhea and probably have bleeding skin liaisons. You might run into someone like this in a street in Nigeria but not in the US.

In the lab experiments, monkeys were forced to cough continually exposing other monkeys that were 6 to 18 inches away. Monkeys further away were unaffected. So assuming that you came in contact with an Ebola victim, just how likely is that the patient would be coughing into your face from a short distance for long periods of time while you inhaled the body fluids. Possible? Yes, about as possible as the Tea Party endorsing Hillary Clinton.

If you really want to worry about something then you should be concerned about this virus spreading throughout Africa and to other countries. The more it replicates the more likely it is to mutate to an airborne virus. If this happens death tolls will run into the tens of millions if not higher and there will be no way to contain it. The influenza epidemic in 1918 killed in access of 650,000 Americans and 20 to 40 million worldwide in just 2 years. Even thou we have vaccines against influenza, 3 to 5 million a year die.

Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.

You quote your study and I will quote mine. On edit. Every thing you have made up about monkeys coughing and monkeys that were previously exposed is debunked in the actual report made in 1995, 6 years after the one you cite. Try reading page 228 and 229 and you will find that you don't have a clue.
 
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So now we have a nurse that tested negative for Ebola being forced by new Jersey to stay in quarantine for 21 days. That is full blown, retarded, civil rights violating hysteria and the RWNJs are just fine with it.

I thought about it and read the article on Drudge. The hospital is at fault for her shabby treatment, but she should just bite the bullet and tough out the 21 days. It used to be common practice for families to be quarantined in their homes for weeks at a time for childhood diseases such as measles and several others. Maybe if any of those people that were quaranatined are still alive they can sue for civil rights violation and illegal detention. LOL.
If she tested negative why force her to suspend her life?


the doctor who took the nyc subway a week later would have tested negative the day he got off the airplane too...

since the new rule just went into effect the facilities weren't prepared to immediately accommodate her in the most comfortable way is unfortunate, but stopping the virus at its source will prevent random public contacts from finding themselves 'feeling' trapped in quarantine later on. the public needs to be protected from that fate first and foremost. as a rational compromise perhaps we should trust these workers to self quarantine, as a matter of cdc protocol they could be provided an escort straight to their homes with a direct plan of which facility to immediately report to upon meeting the fever threshold...
The doctor wasn't contagious and she tested negative.
 
Apparently not much. Cuomo faces an upcoming election and Christie a presidential campaign. They will propose whatever will appease the public. Many people have no faith in what the government says even thou it's supported by sound medical science. With elections just around the corner, many politicians seeking the votes of these people are proposing travel bans, 21 day quarantines, 24 day quarantines, and whatever it takes to gather a few more votes.
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There is ample evidence to support the claim that body fluid transfer is necessary to contract the disease. A study was conducted in Kikwit in the Republic of the Congo in 1995 with the same strain of virus we see today to determine the risk factors to family members with an Ebola patient. 27 households in which someone had been infected with the Ebola virus were studied. Of the 173 members in the households, 78 members had no direct contract with the Ebola patient and not a single one contracted the virus. None of the family members that were close to Thomas Eric Duncan, contracted the disease. This pattern has been confirmed throughout the epidemic in West Africa. The disease is only spread through the transmission of body fluids. People who have no direct contact with the infected person are no danger. Even people with casual contact in the early stages are extremely unlikely to contract the disease.

Transmission of Ebola hemorrhagic fever a stud... J Infect Dis. 1999 - PubMed - NCBI

Actually, they both are Governors and probably take the responsibility of protecting millions of citizens in their states from a deadly virus. It is called leadership, which there is none of in the White House. I only hope that the Governors of the other states that have health care workers returning from West Africa that were caring for Epola patients to exercise the same precaution.

It is pitiful that Obama is to busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to be bothered.

Perhaps you should read this:

Ebola can spread by air in cold, dry weather common to the U.S. but not West Africa, presenting a “possible, serious threat” to the public, according to two studies by U.S. Army scientists.

After successfully exposing monkeys to airborne Ebola, which “caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days,” scientists with the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) concluded Ebola can spread through air but likely hasn’t in Equatorial Africa because the region is too warm, with temperatures rarely dropping below 65°F.

“We… demonstrated aerosol transmission of Ebola virus at lower temperature and humidity than that normally present in sub-Saharan Africa,” the 1995 study entitled Lethal Experimental Infections of Rhesus Monkeys by Aerosolized Ebola Virus reported. “Ebola virus sensitivity to the high temperatures and humidity in the thatched, mud, and wattle huts shared by infected family members in southern Sudan and northern Zaire may have been a factor limiting aerosol transmission of Ebola virus in the African epidemics.”

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

It is interesting to note this outbreak occurred in December 1989, whentemperatures in Reston were usually below freezing, and it’s unlikely the indoor temperature in the vast quarantine facility was much higher.
A decent study and a logical assumption linked together to come up with a totally erroneous conclusion.

Body fluids are expelled into the air by sneezing and coughing. Sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola and does not carry dense body fluids. Coughing is not an early symptom. By the time someone is hacking up fluids, there're going to be vomiting with uncontrolled diarrhea and probably have bleeding skin liaisons. You might run into someone like this in a street in Nigeria but not in the US.

In the lab experiments, monkeys were forced to cough continually exposing other monkeys that were 6 to 18 inches away. Monkeys further away were unaffected. So assuming that you came in contact with an Ebola victim, just how likely is that the patient would be coughing into your face from a short distance for long periods of time while you inhaled the body fluids. Possible? Yes, about as possible as the Tea Party endorsing Hillary Clinton.

If you really want to worry about something then you should be concerned about this virus spreading throughout Africa and to other countries. The more it replicates the more likely it is to mutate to an airborne virus. If this happens death tolls will run into the tens of millions if not higher and there will be no way to contain it. The influenza epidemic in 1918 killed in access of 650,000 Americans and 20 to 40 million worldwide in just 2 years. Even thou we have vaccines against influenza, 3 to 5 million a year die.

Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.

You quote your study and I will quote mine.
Read the link. There is no indication at all that it's airborne
 
Actually, they both are Governors and probably take the responsibility of protecting millions of citizens in their states from a deadly virus. It is called leadership, which there is none of in the White House. I only hope that the Governors of the other states that have health care workers returning from West Africa that were caring for Epola patients to exercise the same precaution.

It is pitiful that Obama is to busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to be bothered.

Perhaps you should read this:

Ebola can spread by air in cold, dry weather common to the U.S. but not West Africa, presenting a “possible, serious threat” to the public, according to two studies by U.S. Army scientists.

After successfully exposing monkeys to airborne Ebola, which “caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days,” scientists with the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) concluded Ebola can spread through air but likely hasn’t in Equatorial Africa because the region is too warm, with temperatures rarely dropping below 65°F.

“We… demonstrated aerosol transmission of Ebola virus at lower temperature and humidity than that normally present in sub-Saharan Africa,” the 1995 study entitled Lethal Experimental Infections of Rhesus Monkeys by Aerosolized Ebola Virus reported. “Ebola virus sensitivity to the high temperatures and humidity in the thatched, mud, and wattle huts shared by infected family members in southern Sudan and northern Zaire may have been a factor limiting aerosol transmission of Ebola virus in the African epidemics.”

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

It is interesting to note this outbreak occurred in December 1989, whentemperatures in Reston were usually below freezing, and it’s unlikely the indoor temperature in the vast quarantine facility was much higher.
A decent study and a logical assumption linked together to come up with a totally erroneous conclusion.

Body fluids are expelled into the air by sneezing and coughing. Sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola and does not carry dense body fluids. Coughing is not an early symptom. By the time someone is hacking up fluids, there're going to be vomiting with uncontrolled diarrhea and probably have bleeding skin liaisons. You might run into someone like this in a street in Nigeria but not in the US.

In the lab experiments, monkeys were forced to cough continually exposing other monkeys that were 6 to 18 inches away. Monkeys further away were unaffected. So assuming that you came in contact with an Ebola victim, just how likely is that the patient would be coughing into your face from a short distance for long periods of time while you inhaled the body fluids. Possible? Yes, about as possible as the Tea Party endorsing Hillary Clinton.

If you really want to worry about something then you should be concerned about this virus spreading throughout Africa and to other countries. The more it replicates the more likely it is to mutate to an airborne virus. If this happens death tolls will run into the tens of millions if not higher and there will be no way to contain it. The influenza epidemic in 1918 killed in access of 650,000 Americans and 20 to 40 million worldwide in just 2 years. Even thou we have vaccines against influenza, 3 to 5 million a year die.

Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.

You quote your study and I will quote mine.
Read the link. There is no indication at all that it's airborne

I edited my previous post and suggested that you read the actual report made 6 years after yours. The link is in my original post. Read pages 228 and 229 and I do accept apologies.
 
A decent study and a logical assumption linked together to come up with a totally erroneous conclusion.

Body fluids are expelled into the air by sneezing and coughing. Sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola and does not carry dense body fluids. Coughing is not an early symptom. By the time someone is hacking up fluids, there're going to be vomiting with uncontrolled diarrhea and probably have bleeding skin liaisons. You might run into someone like this in a street in Nigeria but not in the US.

In the lab experiments, monkeys were forced to cough continually exposing other monkeys that were 6 to 18 inches away. Monkeys further away were unaffected. So assuming that you came in contact with an Ebola victim, just how likely is that the patient would be coughing into your face from a short distance for long periods of time while you inhaled the body fluids. Possible? Yes, about as possible as the Tea Party endorsing Hillary Clinton.

If you really want to worry about something then you should be concerned about this virus spreading throughout Africa and to other countries. The more it replicates the more likely it is to mutate to an airborne virus. If this happens death tolls will run into the tens of millions if not higher and there will be no way to contain it. The influenza epidemic in 1918 killed in access of 650,000 Americans and 20 to 40 million worldwide in just 2 years. Even thou we have vaccines against influenza, 3 to 5 million a year die.

Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.

You quote your study and I will quote mine.
Read the link. There is no indication at all that it's airborne

I edited my previous post and suggested that you read the actual report made 6 years after yours. The link is in my original post. Read pages 228 and 229 and I do accept apologies.
For what? If it was airborne lots of people in the US would have it.
 
Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.

You quote your study and I will quote mine.
Read the link. There is no indication at all that it's airborne

I edited my previous post and suggested that you read the actual report made 6 years after yours. The link is in my original post. Read pages 228 and 229 and I do accept apologies.
For what? If it was airborne lots of people in the US would have it.

It ain't cold enough YET!
 
These medical ebola warriors may be heroes to some people in Africa. They aren't heroes here. They are well meaning do gooders who took it upon themselves to be exposed to a deadly disease. Then they get huffy because we don't want to become infected too.

Stay in africa then
 
.We should be greeting these amazing and courageous doctors and nurses back home as the heroes they are, and placing them on the highest pedestals we can make.

LOL. We should be having these people undergo mental checks before even considering letting them back into the country.
 
Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.

You quote your study and I will quote mine.
Read the link. There is no indication at all that it's airborne

I edited my previous post and suggested that you read the actual report made 6 years after yours. The link is in my original post. Read pages 228 and 229 and I do accept apologies.
For what? If it was airborne lots of people in the US would have it.

It ain't cold enough yet. Perhaps you can get someone to read and explain the study to you.
 
Have you noticed that doctors without Borders will go to Africa but not Watts. You don't see these doctors treating the sick in American slums.
 
Apparently not much. Cuomo faces an upcoming election and Christie a presidential campaign. They will propose whatever will appease the public. Many people have no faith in what the government says even thou it's supported by sound medical science. With elections just around the corner, many politicians seeking the votes of these people are proposing travel bans, 21 day quarantines, 24 day quarantines, and whatever it takes to gather a few more votes.
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There is ample evidence to support the claim that body fluid transfer is necessary to contract the disease. A study was conducted in Kikwit in the Republic of the Congo in 1995 with the same strain of virus we see today to determine the risk factors to family members with an Ebola patient. 27 households in which someone had been infected with the Ebola virus were studied. Of the 173 members in the households, 78 members had no direct contract with the Ebola patient and not a single one contracted the virus. None of the family members that were close to Thomas Eric Duncan, contracted the disease. This pattern has been confirmed throughout the epidemic in West Africa. The disease is only spread through the transmission of body fluids. People who have no direct contact with the infected person are no danger. Even people with casual contact in the early stages are extremely unlikely to contract the disease.

Transmission of Ebola hemorrhagic fever a stud... J Infect Dis. 1999 - PubMed - NCBI

Actually, they both are Governors and probably take the responsibility of protecting millions of citizens in their states from a deadly virus. It is called leadership, which there is none of in the White House. I only hope that the Governors of the other states that have health care workers returning from West Africa that were caring for Epola patients to exercise the same precaution.

It is pitiful that Obama is to busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to be bothered.

Perhaps you should read this:

Ebola can spread by air in cold, dry weather common to the U.S. but not West Africa, presenting a “possible, serious threat” to the public, according to two studies by U.S. Army scientists.

After successfully exposing monkeys to airborne Ebola, which “caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days,” scientists with the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) concluded Ebola can spread through air but likely hasn’t in Equatorial Africa because the region is too warm, with temperatures rarely dropping below 65°F.

“We… demonstrated aerosol transmission of Ebola virus at lower temperature and humidity than that normally present in sub-Saharan Africa,” the 1995 study entitled Lethal Experimental Infections of Rhesus Monkeys by Aerosolized Ebola Virus reported. “Ebola virus sensitivity to the high temperatures and humidity in the thatched, mud, and wattle huts shared by infected family members in southern Sudan and northern Zaire may have been a factor limiting aerosol transmission of Ebola virus in the African epidemics.”

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

It is interesting to note this outbreak occurred in December 1989, whentemperatures in Reston were usually below freezing, and it’s unlikely the indoor temperature in the vast quarantine facility was much higher.
A decent study and a logical assumption linked together to come up with a totally erroneous conclusion.

Body fluids are expelled into the air by sneezing and coughing. Sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola and does not carry dense body fluids. Coughing is not an early symptom. By the time someone is hacking up fluids, there're going to be vomiting with uncontrolled diarrhea and probably have bleeding skin liaisons. You might run into someone like this in a street in Nigeria but not in the US.

In the lab experiments, monkeys were forced to cough continually exposing other monkeys that were 6 to 18 inches away. Monkeys further away were unaffected. So assuming that you came in contact with an Ebola victim, just how likely is that the patient would be coughing into your face from a short distance for long periods of time while you inhaled the body fluids. Possible? Yes, about as possible as the Tea Party endorsing Hillary Clinton.

If you really want to worry about something then you should be concerned about this virus spreading throughout Africa and to other countries. The more it replicates the more likely it is to mutate to an airborne virus. If this happens death tolls will run into the tens of millions if not higher and there will be no way to contain it. The influenza epidemic in 1918 killed in access of 650,000 Americans and 20 to 40 million worldwide in just 2 years. Even thou we have vaccines against influenza, 3 to 5 million a year die.

Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.

You quote your study and I will quote mine. On edit. Every thing you have made up about monkeys coughing and monkeys that were previously exposed is debunked in the actual report made in 1995, 6 years after the one you cite. Try reading page 228 and 229 and you will find that you don't have a clue.
That's nonsense. This experiment showed that Ebola could be transmitted between monkeys by placing a monkey in a sealed chamber and pressurizing exhalations of body fluids and delivering them through a neutralizer for 10 mins. to produce a highly concentrated aerosol which infected other monkeys. As the farmer said, what does this have to do with the price eggs? We are talking about the possibility of spreading the disease through coughs and sneezing. The concentration of body fluids expelled into the air in the real world are very low not highly concentrated as in the experiment, humans do not inhale coughed body fluids for 10 mins, and Ebola does not create coughing in early stages when the public would likely to be exposed.

Prior to this epidemic, our knowledge of Ebola was mostly what we gleamed from the lab and limited field reports. If there is anything good about the epidemic, it's our increase in knowledge of the epidemiology of the disease. We know exactly how the disease is spread and what we need to do to stop it. We don't need to rely on obsolete laboratory investigations of 10 or 15 years ago and certainly not political motivate decisions.
 
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Have you noticed that doctors without Borders will go to Africa but not Watts. You don't see these doctors treating the sick in American slums.
That could be because the availability of high quality medical services are ready available in LA. In Africa, there are only 2.3 healthcare workers per 1,000 people. In the US there's more than 24.8 per 1,000 and there are 25% less communicated diseases to deal with.

http://www.who.int/whr/2006/overview_fig6_en.pdf
 
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.We should be greeting these amazing and courageous doctors and nurses back home as the heroes they are, and placing them on the highest pedestals we can make.

LOL. We should be having these people undergo mental checks before even considering letting them back into the country.
Like most people who risk their lives to save others probably do have a few loose screws, but thank God for them.
 
Actually, they both are Governors and probably take the responsibility of protecting millions of citizens in their states from a deadly virus. It is called leadership, which there is none of in the White House. I only hope that the Governors of the other states that have health care workers returning from West Africa that were caring for Epola patients to exercise the same precaution.

It is pitiful that Obama is to busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to be bothered.

Perhaps you should read this:

Ebola can spread by air in cold, dry weather common to the U.S. but not West Africa, presenting a “possible, serious threat” to the public, according to two studies by U.S. Army scientists.

After successfully exposing monkeys to airborne Ebola, which “caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days,” scientists with the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) concluded Ebola can spread through air but likely hasn’t in Equatorial Africa because the region is too warm, with temperatures rarely dropping below 65°F.

“We… demonstrated aerosol transmission of Ebola virus at lower temperature and humidity than that normally present in sub-Saharan Africa,” the 1995 study entitled Lethal Experimental Infections of Rhesus Monkeys by Aerosolized Ebola Virus reported. “Ebola virus sensitivity to the high temperatures and humidity in the thatched, mud, and wattle huts shared by infected family members in southern Sudan and northern Zaire may have been a factor limiting aerosol transmission of Ebola virus in the African epidemics.”

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

It is interesting to note this outbreak occurred in December 1989, whentemperatures in Reston were usually below freezing, and it’s unlikely the indoor temperature in the vast quarantine facility was much higher.
A decent study and a logical assumption linked together to come up with a totally erroneous conclusion.

Body fluids are expelled into the air by sneezing and coughing. Sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola and does not carry dense body fluids. Coughing is not an early symptom. By the time someone is hacking up fluids, there're going to be vomiting with uncontrolled diarrhea and probably have bleeding skin liaisons. You might run into someone like this in a street in Nigeria but not in the US.

In the lab experiments, monkeys were forced to cough continually exposing other monkeys that were 6 to 18 inches away. Monkeys further away were unaffected. So assuming that you came in contact with an Ebola victim, just how likely is that the patient would be coughing into your face from a short distance for long periods of time while you inhaled the body fluids. Possible? Yes, about as possible as the Tea Party endorsing Hillary Clinton.

If you really want to worry about something then you should be concerned about this virus spreading throughout Africa and to other countries. The more it replicates the more likely it is to mutate to an airborne virus. If this happens death tolls will run into the tens of millions if not higher and there will be no way to contain it. The influenza epidemic in 1918 killed in access of 650,000 Americans and 20 to 40 million worldwide in just 2 years. Even thou we have vaccines against influenza, 3 to 5 million a year die.

Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.

You quote your study and I will quote mine. On edit. Every thing you have made up about monkeys coughing and monkeys that were previously exposed is debunked in the actual report made in 1995, 6 years after the one you cite. Try reading page 228 and 229 and you will find that you don't have a clue.
That's nonsense. This experiment showed that Ebola could be transmitted between monkeys by placing a monkey in a sealed chamber and pressurizing exhalations of body fluids and delivering them through a neutralizer for 10 mins. to produce a highly concentrated aerosol which infected other monkeys. As the farmer said, what does this have to do with the price eggs? We are talking about the possibility of spreading the disease through coughs and sneezing. The concentration of body fluids expelled into the air in the real world are very low not highly concentrated as in the experiment, humans do not inhale coughed body fluids for 10 mins, and Ebola does not create coughing in early stages when the public would likely to be exposed.

Prior to this epidemic, our knowledge of Ebola was mostly what we gleamed from the lab and limited field reports. If there is anything good about the epidemic, it's our increase in knowledge of the epidemiology of the disease. We know exactly how the disease is spread and what we need to do to stop it. We don't need to rely on obsolete laboratory investigations of 10 or 15 years ago and certainly not political motivate decisions.

The question was is there airborne transmission of Ebola and the answer is YES. What in the hell makes you think this scientific investigation, which is 6 years newer than the one you rely on, was politically motivated?
 
Val, why do you say the doc would have tested negative?


because that's how it goes... you test negative in the early stages until you are on the brink of showing symptoms, there is nothing to detect. dr brantly tested negative at first too, and he was already symptomatic that day...




..new arrivals could pass the strictest test and then still fall ill days later. Because they had tested negative once, they could easily assume that symptoms like fever, nausea and diarrhea were just a flu. They could then potentially spread Ebola until they became so ill that they were forced to go to an emergency room. Because early treatment is important, it could also endanger their lives.

The difficulty is that Ebola has a relatively long incubation period. Although most people show symptoms within four to seven days after infection, some do not show them for up to 21 days. Dr. Craig Spencer, the physician who arrived in New York on Oct. 17, might have been able to pass an Ebola test that day. He did not detect a fever — a classic, although imperfect, warning sign — until Oct. 23. Kaci Hickox, the nurse who was forced into quarantine at Newark airport on Oct. 24, despite having had a negative Ebola test, might still develop Ebola — or she might never.


http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/...-all-new-arrivals/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0


A number of tests can be used to diagnose Ebola within a few days of the onset of symptoms, which can detect the virus's genetic material or the presence of antibodies against the pathogen.


The most accurate of these is likely the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test, a technique that looks for genetic material from the virus and creates enough copies of it that it can be detected, Hirsch said. "PCR is a really definitive test," Hirsch said. It can pick up very small amounts of the virus.

However, this test can be negative during the first three days an infected person has symptoms, said Dr. Sandro Cinti, an infectious-disease specialist...

How Do Doctors Test for Ebola
 
This nurse is not symptomatic. Therefore she isn't contagious. She should be monitored but not kept in a tent without access to a toilet or a shower.

People have been coming and going from treating Ebola for years and we have had no outbreak. It isn't that contagious.
 
Have you noticed that doctors without Borders will go to Africa but not Watts. You don't see these doctors treating the sick in American slums.
That could be because the availability of high quality medical services are ready available in LA. In Africa, there are only 2.3 healthcare workers per 1,000 people. In the US there's more than 24.8 per 1,000 and there are 25% less communicated diseases to deal with.

http://www.who.int/whr/2006/overview_fig6_en.pdf
Then thousands of people don't really show up at free health fairs.
 
A decent study and a logical assumption linked together to come up with a totally erroneous conclusion.

Body fluids are expelled into the air by sneezing and coughing. Sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola and does not carry dense body fluids. Coughing is not an early symptom. By the time someone is hacking up fluids, there're going to be vomiting with uncontrolled diarrhea and probably have bleeding skin liaisons. You might run into someone like this in a street in Nigeria but not in the US.

In the lab experiments, monkeys were forced to cough continually exposing other monkeys that were 6 to 18 inches away. Monkeys further away were unaffected. So assuming that you came in contact with an Ebola victim, just how likely is that the patient would be coughing into your face from a short distance for long periods of time while you inhaled the body fluids. Possible? Yes, about as possible as the Tea Party endorsing Hillary Clinton.

If you really want to worry about something then you should be concerned about this virus spreading throughout Africa and to other countries. The more it replicates the more likely it is to mutate to an airborne virus. If this happens death tolls will run into the tens of millions if not higher and there will be no way to contain it. The influenza epidemic in 1918 killed in access of 650,000 Americans and 20 to 40 million worldwide in just 2 years. Even thou we have vaccines against influenza, 3 to 5 million a year die.

Did you missed these two sentences because you are an Obama supporter? I will repeat it and wait for your explanation.

“While infections in adjacent cages may have occurred by droplet contact, infections in distant cages suggests aerosol transmission, as evidence of direct physical contact with an infected source could not be established,” the study added.

The study also referred to the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility in Reston, Va., in which the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms.

I most certainly am concerned about the virus spreading throughout Africa, but this study indicates the hot climate is not conducive to Ebola becoming airborne. My concern is because we have a President that is too busy playing golf and attending fund raisers to rally European countries and the United Nations to join in the fight to confine and conquer this disease in West Africa.
Europe is much closer to Africa than we are and are at greater risk. Where is American leadership when we need it?
George W Bush reached out in a big way to fight AIDS in Africa and got other countries to contribute as well. Just my two cents worth.
The official CDC report did not come up with the conclusion that Ebola was spread through the air. That is a supposition of the writer.

During the quarantine of 10 monkeys both simian hemorrhagic fever and Ebola were detected. A separate shipment of monkeys were received and quartered in a separate room. They also tested positive for Ebola. I love the way the writer enhances his piece by adding "the virus rapidly spread between unconnected rooms." The more logical conclusion was that the monkeys were previously exposed since they came from the same area as the other monkeys but of course, that works against the story line.

The suggestion that the virus will become airborne with lower temperatures is without proof and goes against our knowledge of how the virus works. A virus becomes airborne if it mutates. If we're going stop the spread of Ebola, we have to make decisions based on solid scientific evidence, not suppositions, hysteria, and politics.
Ebola Virus Infection in Imported Primates -- Virginia 1989

From your posts,one can only conclude that you're primarily motivation is partisan politics.

You quote your study and I will quote mine. On edit. Every thing you have made up about monkeys coughing and monkeys that were previously exposed is debunked in the actual report made in 1995, 6 years after the one you cite. Try reading page 228 and 229 and you will find that you don't have a clue.
That's nonsense. This experiment showed that Ebola could be transmitted between monkeys by placing a monkey in a sealed chamber and pressurizing exhalations of body fluids and delivering them through a neutralizer for 10 mins. to produce a highly concentrated aerosol which infected other monkeys. As the farmer said, what does this have to do with the price eggs? We are talking about the possibility of spreading the disease through coughs and sneezing. The concentration of body fluids expelled into the air in the real world are very low not highly concentrated as in the experiment, humans do not inhale coughed body fluids for 10 mins, and Ebola does not create coughing in early stages when the public would likely to be exposed.

Prior to this epidemic, our knowledge of Ebola was mostly what we gleamed from the lab and limited field reports. If there is anything good about the epidemic, it's our increase in knowledge of the epidemiology of the disease. We know exactly how the disease is spread and what we need to do to stop it. We don't need to rely on obsolete laboratory investigations of 10 or 15 years ago and certainly not political motivate decisions.

The question was is there airborne transmission of Ebola and the answer is YES. What in the hell makes you think this scientific investigation, which is 6 years newer than the one you rely on, was politically motivated?
I used the report of the 1989 Ebola outbreak at a primate quarantine facility because you brought it up in your post #175.
 

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