Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
did not have time to read all the posts.
IMO the kids are not any dumber. they learn some advanced stuff earlier.
the problem is that.
1. everyone is expected to go to a 4 year college. Too much pressure on the kids, parents and teachers to get to university.
2. related to above. Not enough trade schools. only 25 % ever get a 4 year degree
3. learned helplessness. most kids are used to having parents and teachers do too much for them.
4. excuses for failure. It's never the kids fault. it's environment, poor diet, racist teachers etc.
5. unrealistic parents. an apple doesn't fall far from the tree. the parents that are lazy and stupid should expect similar results from their kids.
The veil of ignorance stops at birth.
did not have time to read all the posts.
IMO the kids are not any dumber. they learn some advanced stuff earlier.
the problem is that.
1. everyone is expected to go to a 4 year college. Too much pressure on the kids, parents and teachers to get to university.
2. related to above. Not enough trade schools. only 25 % ever get a 4 year degree
3. learned helplessness. most kids are used to having parents and teachers do too much for them.
4. excuses for failure. It's never the kids fault. it's environment, poor diet, racist teachers etc.
5. unrealistic parents. an apple doesn't fall far from the tree. the parents that are lazy and stupid should expect similar results from their kids.
I agree with all with the possible exception of #5.
The reason I disagree is because it is completely natural for parents to expect their kids, the next generation to be superiour to themselves.
It is the parent who is lazy who doesn't expect anything, similar or dissimilar, from their kids. In fact, they often seem surprised to realize they HAVE kids, and are appalled to be told that THEY are responsible for them.
did not have time to read all the posts.
IMO the kids are not any dumber. they learn some advanced stuff earlier.
the problem is that.
1. everyone is expected to go to a 4 year college. Too much pressure on the kids, parents and teachers to get to university.
2. related to above. Not enough trade schools. only 25 % ever get a 4 year degree
3. learned helplessness. most kids are used to having parents and teachers do too much for them.
4. excuses for failure. It's never the kids fault. it's environment, poor diet, racist teachers etc.
5. unrealistic parents. an apple doesn't fall far from the tree. the parents that are lazy and stupid should expect similar results from their kids.
I agree with all with the possible exception of #5.
The reason I disagree is because it is completely natural for parents to expect their kids, the next generation to be superiour to themselves.
It is the parent who is lazy who doesn't expect anything, similar or dissimilar, from their kids. In fact, they often seem surprised to realize they HAVE kids, and are appalled to be told that THEY are responsible for them.
there are expectations and unrealistic expectations.
the teachers can't make rocket scientists out of kids with IQs of 75
I agree with all with the possible exception of #5.
The reason I disagree is because it is completely natural for parents to expect their kids, the next generation to be superiour to themselves.
It is the parent who is lazy who doesn't expect anything, similar or dissimilar, from their kids. In fact, they often seem surprised to realize they HAVE kids, and are appalled to be told that THEY are responsible for them.
there are expectations and unrealistic expectations.
the teachers can't make rocket scientists out of kids with IQs of 75
No, but the kids' IQ has nothing to do with the parents being lazy and stupid.
there are expectations and unrealistic expectations.
the teachers can't make rocket scientists out of kids with IQs of 75
No, but the kids' IQ has nothing to do with the parents being lazy and stupid.
you're kidding right? or do you really think intelligence and other character traits aren't passed along from parent to child? I realise heredity is not written in stone but it is a powerful influence in everyone.
No, but the kids' IQ has nothing to do with the parents being lazy and stupid.
you're kidding right? or do you really think intelligence and other character traits aren't passed along from parent to child? I realise heredity is not written in stone but it is a powerful influence in everyone.
You're giving genetics more credit than it deserves: Stupid parents can have bright kids, and vice versa: Most kids have average intelligence, regardless of their parents' intelligence.
you're kidding right? or do you really think intelligence and other character traits aren't passed along from parent to child? I realise heredity is not written in stone but it is a powerful influence in everyone.
You're giving genetics more credit than it deserves: Stupid parents can have bright kids, and vice versa: Most kids have average intelligence, regardless of their parents' intelligence.
statistically genetics is very predictive for the characteristics of progeny. I think you are giving genetics less credit than it deserves. But we all get to have our own opinions, even if some opinions have more evidence supporting them.
You're giving genetics more credit than it deserves: Stupid parents can have bright kids, and vice versa: Most kids have average intelligence, regardless of their parents' intelligence.
statistically genetics is very predictive for the characteristics of progeny. I think you are giving genetics less credit than it deserves. But we all get to have our own opinions, even if some opinions have more evidence supporting them.
You're generalising based on statistics?
We all have our bias, even if some bias are more stupid than others.
Oh God, I hope Limp Bizkit isnt used as any type of measure to judge people my age.
Atleast I can say us young americans are not the ones who lived beyond their means, were unable to meet their financial obligations, made terribe investments, ran america into the ground, and created the economic cluster fuck we find ourselves in... atleast not yet anyways. Thats all on you old folks.
Surely you jest. Teenagers today MUST have designer clothes (no more Sears or JC Penny, nor GASP Wal*Mart duds), MUST have a cell phone, MUST have a laptop, MUST have a car. Just wait until you're an adult and you MUST have TWO cars, a starter castle for a home, all the latest IT stuff, a big screen BluRay TV (or whatever will replace that tomorrow).
So at what point does the young American plan to stop wanting everything in the world in order to help save the economy?
Oh God, I hope Limp Bizkit isnt used as any type of measure to judge people my age.
Atleast I can say us young americans are not the ones who lived beyond their means, were unable to meet their financial obligations, made terribe investments, ran america into the ground, and created the economic cluster fuck we find ourselves in... atleast not yet anyways. Thats all on you old folks.
Surely you jest. Teenagers today MUST have designer clothes (no more Sears or JC Penny, nor GASP Wal*Mart duds), MUST have a cell phone, MUST have a laptop, MUST have a car. Just wait until you're an adult and you MUST have TWO cars, a starter castle for a home, all the latest IT stuff, a big screen BluRay TV (or whatever will replace that tomorrow).
So at what point does the young American plan to stop wanting everything in the world in order to help save the economy?
None of our kids have designer clothes. An occasionally Aeropostal (on sale only) is about it.
Oldest didn't get a cell phone till she got a job and could pay for it.
Youngest (13) wants a cell phone. For what? She can get one when she can pay the bill.
Laptop for kids? Please. That's inviting the entire world into your kids room. When kids are college bound then it's fine for a laptop,.
Car? My oldest looked for two months last summer before she realized she had to up her price range to get something reliable. We loaned her $3800 and she is paying it off, $50/month. Yeah, it'll take her five years before she done.
Parents who give their kid all the things they 'want' are doing their kids a huge disservice.
Dumb beyond all imagination which explains why we have to bring in foreign mathmeticians and IT workers to do the work for them. Dumb as a box of rocks, and as useless as a 25 pound bag of smashed assholes sitting in the middle of the Gobi desert. Gen Y is not a place in which to find your hope, rather, it's a place to abandon all hope, LOL.
I think computers will totally undo the damage that TVs caused
When I was a kid there was a long period where we didn't have a TV. They were very expensive and paying the mortgage and eating very cheap. Cabbage rolls were a staple on the dinner menu for a long time.
But we always had money for books. Lots of them. And Encyclopedias. We had two complete sets.
Even though my kids are way outperforming me, I do think if I had a do over with them, I would have broken the TV and not replaced it. And I would have bought paper encyclopedias when the boy was in 3rd grade.
Actually, I think the internet is a positive on kids learning skills. My boy likes doing fanfics, and he is on a message board where the literary standards are generous, but still exist. He can post his stuff and get critiqued at the level he is at. Which because he has been doing this for a while is a whole lot better.
The internet allows folks to engage more on an intellectual level. You make a bungle, you will get called on it. I think computers will totally undo the damage that TVs caused
I think computers will totally undo the damage that TVs caused
