The Failure Of “Trickle Down”, and The Generation That Understands This

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It has become a regular habit for some media contributors to blame millennials for the death of many businesses and other profitable institutions. This blame focuses on millennials because they refuse to spend there limited incomes to benefit the billionaires and other corporate fat cats.

The American people have listened to conservatives tout the benefits of Reagan’s snake oil known as “Trickle Down” for the last four decades. Reliable numbers charting the success of Reagan’s snake oil have proven consistently, that during these years, the wealthiest top 0.1% (that’s one tenth of one percent) have flourished beyond all expectations.

Unfortunately, those same reliable numbers prove the bottom 90%, and especially the lowest half of American families haven’t fared well, at all.

But, in the years when Reagan first started selling his snake oil, in younger, baby boomer families, both spouses began working, so the negative impact of his trickle-down-snake-oil was slow to be noticed by the masses. The generation that fought in WWII and produced the baby-boomers were already established financially, so they too were also slow to notice as their buying power decreased.

The WWII generation did have one advantage (if you can call it that) over the baby boomers they bore. The WWII generation lived through the Great Depression. Their families were forced to learn to make do with less, appreciate the value of money, and live within their limited means.

This was not the case with the “boomers”. As conservative policies slowly began to strangle wages, destroy unions, and create an environment hostile to working people, easy credit became available to provide the money needed by the boomers to buy the trappings of middle class, which were rapidly becoming more and more expensive.

Living expenses, whether for necessities or luxuries, increased at a rate much more quickly than incomes. The bubble burst in the middle of 2008, the final year of Dubya’s tax-cuts-for-the-very-rich, and borrow-money-for-two-needless-wars administration.

During the initial months of the Great Republican Recession, countless baby boomers lost their jobs, homes, cars, life savings, retirement accounts, etc. The following years of slow economic recovery resulting from the congressional Republicans many efforts to make Obama a one-term-president, saw economic conditions so bad, many of these boomers would never recover.

All this financial tragedy had little effect on the wealthiest top 0.1%, but it was a lesson to the millennial generation. Like their grandparents during the Great Depression, they watched while their parents [boomers] struggled financially. Savings ran out, as did long-term unemployment benefits, and eventually, the income from part-time jobs was barely enough to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads.

This generation-wide experience forced most millennials to develop a financial mindset that is currently being blamed for the dying retail industry, the slowing restaurant business, the bind being felt by automakers, unimpressive sales of new homes, and the loss of many jobs.

But blaming all this on millennials is Bullsh!t.

Unlike the suckers who believe in Reagan’s snake oil, these young people refuse to spend their meager incomes on the billionaires' over-priced crap. The same over-priced crap their boomer parents went deeply into debt to own, so as to live the middle class lifestyle, which was beyond the financial means of most.

No, the blame for the economic catastrophe of Reagan’s snake oil falls squarely on the suckers in the baby boomer generation. For four decades, they happily handed the vast majority of the wealth to the top 0.1%, in the mistaken belief the billionaires’ massive profits from ever-rising prices, substantial Republican tax cuts, the outsourcing these tax cuts helped finance, and the stagnant wages enjoyed by low and middle income families would finally be trickled down upon them.

That ain’t happened yet, and millennials know it never will. They understand they must live for the moment, and the few enjoyable experiences they are able to afford. Fu*k the businesses that are dying. The millennials are not to blame for the CEO baby boomers who were too stupid to understand Reagan’s snake oil would eventually cause their worlds to come crashing down around them.

Millennials can read the handwriting on the wall. They know Reagan’s “Trickle Down” snake oil is a scam to keep wealth moving upward, and always has been. They can also understand that, until the stupid, conservative baby boomers die out, there is little they can do to help themselves. The stupid members of the boomer generation still have too much power. “Trickle Down” will continue, for now.

'Psychologically scarred' millennials are killing dozens of industries — and it's their parents' fault

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It's all very simple to fix. We just need educated Americans who will demand our elected officials enact the measures which will put us back on the road to prosperity.

Unfortunately, the propaganda outlets of both sides of the political spectrum have spent the last two decades dumbing down the electorate to the point of deep delusions, willful ignorance, and mind boggling stupidity.

The solutions are:

1. Ban tax expenditures. These are an annual $1.4 trillion transfer of wealth up the food chain, and the single biggest reason our tax rates are as high as they are. The national debt is not caused by evil rich people not having higher tax rates. Nor is it caused by darkies on food stamps. It is caused by tax expenditures.

2. Raise the Social Security and Medicare eligibility age to 70, and index the age to 9 percent of the population going forward. We are living decades longer than our ancestors who created Social Security. Common sense demands we work longer.

3. Our military spending is at levels we have not seen since World War II, when adjusted for inflation. We are not engaged in a World War and should spend accordingly. Long before Trump came along, I have been saying our allies need to pick up their fair share of our common defense. They look down their noses at us for not spending as much on a social safety net as they do, all the while depending on us to defend them out of our pockets. Let's see how snooty they are, and how strong their social safety nets are, when they have to pick up their own defense tab.
 
Whenever I hear the term "trickle down economics", I think of William Jennings Bryan and his famous Cross of Gold speech.
 
I started my career within 2 weeks of Reagan taking office. I came from a lower middle class family with no money and lots of debt. Mortgage interest rates were 18% car loans were over 20% thanks to Carternomics. 8 years later I was kicking ass and taking names thanks to the turnaround Reagan brought about. Call it whatever you want, Reaganomics worked for anyone willing to work.
 
The Soviet Union created a television program for the masses to show income inequality during the Reagan Years. Essentially they showed a news segment on how poor people were in the cities.

The effort backfired badly. The poor people had TV and microwave ovens. Luxury items that many Soviets did not have. The poor had cars while the Soviet Citizens were on waiting lists sometimes for years.

The poor in the cities of America lived better than many middle class level Soviets. That was the message the people got.

Patience is the one thing that the it's unfair people never have. The generations are not kind to the rich. Granddad may have been a genius but that was not passed on to junior. Genius the third tends to be even less than Junior. The family fortune dwindles and is diluted as each generation manages to finish with less than they started with.

The Rockefeller fortune is management by a bank. Otherwise they would be broke. The DuPont family doesn't even pretend to acknowledge all the cousins and such. The Fords barely manage the car company Henry built. Cadillac, Dodge, Chrysler, and on and on are has beens.

The Kennedy family is a shadow of what it was. I could go on but you should be getting the point. Even the family dynasty in the military doesn't tend to work out. One of the understood honors we provide to children of winners of the Medal of Honor is the right to attend the military academy of their choice. MacArthur was one of those. But the family dynasty ended with him. I also don't think he was a particularly great general. He was right a couple times, but he was wrong far more often.

Patton Junior wasn't what Daddy was. Need I continue?

The point is that these families with all the dough manage to lose it all in a few generations. Then the next group come about. Now it's Bill Gates and Jacob Ma and the rest. This is why monarchy does not work. A great king is followed by an OK king who is followed by a could have been worse king. That's what is going on in North Korea now. Each generation is more shallow, more superficial.

Give it time. The people who climb to the top of the pyramid will have their accomplishments diminished by their children or grand children or great grand kids. Give it time. They'll screw it ip.
 
Anyone who believes "trickle down" (aka: Reaganomics) was a failure, doesn't understand "trickle down" and doesn't comprehend that ALL free market economies trickle down... that's how free markets work.

What you are basically saying is, free market capitalism is a failure. This is because you've been brainwashed by Socialist propaganda. If you want to see what happens when people abandon free market capitalism and adopt Socialism, take a look at Venezuela.

The stupidity is predicated on some rather bizarre statistical cherry-picking.... the top 0.1% are doing markedly better than anyone else.... well guess what? This is true regardless of what you're talking about. The top 0.1% of swimmers are the best swimmers in the world, they do better at swimming than everyone else. The top 0.1% monkey trainers can train monkeys better than anyone else in the world. So is it not surprising the top 0.1% of wealthy people are very good at ascertaining wealth.

The same can be said for the idiotic arguments about wealth acquisition at the top. There isn't a universe of reality where wealthy people lag behind poor people in gaining wealth. Otherwise, the wealthy would be poor and the poor wealthy.

Wealth disparity happens as the result of free enterprise in a free market with people who enjoy the freedom to prosper. This is turned into a "problem" by the Socialist when it's actually a symptom of free market economics. Do you know where you'll find wealth equality? North Korea. Aside from the dictator and his family, everyone in the country is equally poor and this is what happens in a Socialist system when your freedoms are removed.
 
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It has become a regular habit for some media contributors to blame millennials for the death of many businesses and other profitable institutions. This blame focuses on millennials because they refuse to spend there limited incomes to benefit the billionaires and other corporate fat cats.

The American people have listened to conservatives tout the benefits of Reagan’s snake oil known as “Trickle Down” for the last four decades. Reliable numbers charting the success of Reagan’s snake oil have proven consistently, that during these years, the wealthiest top 0.1% (that’s one tenth of one percent) have flourished beyond all expectations.

Unfortunately, those same reliable numbers prove the bottom 90%, and especially the lowest half of American families haven’t fared well, at all.

But, in the years when Reagan first started selling his snake oil, in younger, baby boomer families, both spouses began working, so the negative impact of his trickle-down-snake-oil was slow to be noticed by the masses. The generation that fought in WWII and produced the baby-boomers were already established financially, so they too were also slow to notice as their buying power decreased.

The WWII generation did have one advantage (if you can call it that) over the baby boomers they bore. The WWII generation lived through the Great Depression. Their families were forced to learn to make do with less, appreciate the value of money, and live within their limited means.

This was not the case with the “boomers”. As conservative policies slowly began to strangle wages, destroy unions, and create an environment hostile to working people, easy credit became available to provide the money needed by the boomers to buy the trappings of middle class, which were rapidly becoming more and more expensive.

Living expenses, whether for necessities or luxuries, increased at a rate much more quickly than incomes. The bubble burst in the middle of 2008, the final year of Dubya’s tax-cuts-for-the-very-rich, and borrow-money-for-two-needless-wars administration.

During the initial months of the Great Republican Recession, countless baby boomers lost their jobs, homes, cars, life savings, retirement accounts, etc. The following years of slow economic recovery resulting from the congressional Republicans many efforts to make Obama a one-term-president, saw economic conditions so bad, many of these boomers would never recover.

All this financial tragedy had little effect on the wealthiest top 0.1%, but it was a lesson to the millennial generation. Like their grandparents during the Great Depression, they watched while their parents [boomers] struggled financially. Savings ran out, as did long-term unemployment benefits, and eventually, the income from part-time jobs was barely enough to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads.

This generation-wide experience forced most millennials to develop a financial mindset that is currently being blamed for the dying retail industry, the slowing restaurant business, the bind being felt by automakers, unimpressive sales of new homes, and the loss of many jobs.

But blaming all this on millennials is Bullsh!t.

Unlike the suckers who believe in Reagan’s snake oil, these young people refuse to spend their meager incomes on the billionaires' over-priced crap. The same over-priced crap their boomer parents went deeply into debt to own, so as to live the middle class lifestyle, which was beyond the financial means of most.

No, the blame for the economic catastrophe of Reagan’s snake oil falls squarely on the suckers in the baby boomer generation. For four decades, they happily handed the vast majority of the wealth to the top 0.1%, in the mistaken belief the billionaires’ massive profits from ever-rising prices, substantial Republican tax cuts, the outsourcing these tax cuts helped finance, and the stagnant wages enjoyed by low and middle income families would finally be trickled down upon them.

That ain’t happened yet, and millennials know it never will. They understand they must live for the moment, and the few enjoyable experiences they are able to afford. Fu*k the businesses that are dying. The millennials are not to blame for the CEO baby boomers who were too stupid to understand Reagan’s snake oil would eventually cause their worlds to come crashing down around them.

Millennials can read the handwriting on the wall. They know Reagan’s “Trickle Down” snake oil is a scam to keep wealth moving upward, and always has been. They can also understand that, until the stupid, conservative baby boomers die out, there is little they can do to help themselves. The stupid members of the boomer generation still have too much power. “Trickle Down” will continue, for now.

'Psychologically scarred' millennials are killing dozens of industries — and it's their parents' fault

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Excellent post and spot on. The image at the end shows it in pictures. And all the Trump Voter getting pissed on has to say is "yeah but it's billionaire piss".

The millennials also understand Global Warming is something THEY will have to deal with. They are much more savvy regarding green energy, saving energy, spending less. Witness the growth of tiny houses and people choosing to live in cars or vans who have good jobs. They save their money more than the boomers as far as I know.

Drumi: The Foot Powered Washing Machine
 
I started my career within 2 weeks of Reagan taking office. I came from a lower middle class family with no money and lots of debt. Mortgage interest rates were 18% car loans were over 20% thanks to Carternomics. 8 years later I was kicking ass and taking names thanks to the turnaround Reagan brought about. Call it whatever you want, Reaganomics worked for anyone willing to work.


Sure, Mike....

Tell me what Carter had to do with those interest rates.....

and do you understand the difference between Real and Nominal rates of interest - and why the difference matters?

And lest you run from this challenge as Stupid as you were when you ran INTO it, NO PRESIDENT saw higher average annual job numbers than Jimmy Carter
 
Anyone who believes "trickle down" (aka: Reaganomics) was a failure, doesn't understand "trickle down" and doesn't comprehend that ALL free market economies trickle down... that's how free markets work.

What you are basically saying is, free market capitalism is a failure. This is because you've been brainwashed by Socialist propaganda. If you want to see what happens when people abandon free market capitalism and adopt Socialism, take a look at Venezuela.

The stupidity is predicated on some rather bizarre statistical cherry-picking.... the top 0.1% are doing markedly better than anyone else.... well guess what? This is true regardless of what you're talking about. The top 0.1% of swimmers are the best swimmers in the world, they do better at swimming than everyone else. The top 0.1% monkey trainers can train monkeys better than anyone else in the world. So is it not surprising the top 0.1% of wealthy people are very good at ascertaining wealth.

The same can be said for the idiotic arguments about wealth acquisition at the top. There isn't a universe of reality where wealthy people lag behind poor people in gaining wealth. Otherwise, the wealthy would be poor and the poor wealthy.

Wealth disparity happens as the result of free enterprise in a free market with people who enjoy the freedom to prosper. This is turned into a "problem" by the Socialist when it's actually a symptom of free market economics. Do you know where you'll find wealth equality? North Korea. Aside from the dictator and his family, everyone in the country is equally poor and this is what happens in a Socialist system when your freedoms are removed.
So you have "Narratives" to compensate for your lack of data....

Don't see a lot of that.....You must be one of them Recidivist Supply Side Voting Imbeciles I've been reading about....
 
agree with Marathon Mike , i started seriously working in about 1970 and have done fine all these 47 years . Reagan was fine , i never noticed any problems Bertram !!
IGNORE THE NUMBERS, PIS HAS AN ANECDOTE!
 
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It has become a regular habit for some media contributors to blame millennials for the death of many businesses and other profitable institutions. This blame focuses on millennials because they refuse to spend there limited incomes to benefit the billionaires and other corporate fat cats.

The American people have listened to conservatives tout the benefits of Reagan’s snake oil known as “Trickle Down” for the last four decades. Reliable numbers charting the success of Reagan’s snake oil have proven consistently, that during these years, the wealthiest top 0.1% (that’s one tenth of one percent) have flourished beyond all expectations.

Unfortunately, those same reliable numbers prove the bottom 90%, and especially the lowest half of American families haven’t fared well, at all.

But, in the years when Reagan first started selling his snake oil, in younger, baby boomer families, both spouses began working, so the negative impact of his trickle-down-snake-oil was slow to be noticed by the masses. The generation that fought in WWII and produced the baby-boomers were already established financially, so they too were also slow to notice as their buying power decreased.

The WWII generation did have one advantage (if you can call it that) over the baby boomers they bore. The WWII generation lived through the Great Depression. Their families were forced to learn to make do with less, appreciate the value of money, and live within their limited means.

This was not the case with the “boomers”. As conservative policies slowly began to strangle wages, destroy unions, and create an environment hostile to working people, easy credit became available to provide the money needed by the boomers to buy the trappings of middle class, which were rapidly becoming more and more expensive.

Living expenses, whether for necessities or luxuries, increased at a rate much more quickly than incomes. The bubble burst in the middle of 2008, the final year of Dubya’s tax-cuts-for-the-very-rich, and borrow-money-for-two-needless-wars administration.

During the initial months of the Great Republican Recession, countless baby boomers lost their jobs, homes, cars, life savings, retirement accounts, etc. The following years of slow economic recovery resulting from the congressional Republicans many efforts to make Obama a one-term-president, saw economic conditions so bad, many of these boomers would never recover.

All this financial tragedy had little effect on the wealthiest top 0.1%, but it was a lesson to the millennial generation. Like their grandparents during the Great Depression, they watched while their parents [boomers] struggled financially. Savings ran out, as did long-term unemployment benefits, and eventually, the income from part-time jobs was barely enough to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads.

This generation-wide experience forced most millennials to develop a financial mindset that is currently being blamed for the dying retail industry, the slowing restaurant business, the bind being felt by automakers, unimpressive sales of new homes, and the loss of many jobs.

But blaming all this on millennials is Bullsh!t.

Unlike the suckers who believe in Reagan’s snake oil, these young people refuse to spend their meager incomes on the billionaires' over-priced crap. The same over-priced crap their boomer parents went deeply into debt to own, so as to live the middle class lifestyle, which was beyond the financial means of most.

No, the blame for the economic catastrophe of Reagan’s snake oil falls squarely on the suckers in the baby boomer generation. For four decades, they happily handed the vast majority of the wealth to the top 0.1%, in the mistaken belief the billionaires’ massive profits from ever-rising prices, substantial Republican tax cuts, the outsourcing these tax cuts helped finance, and the stagnant wages enjoyed by low and middle income families would finally be trickled down upon them.

That ain’t happened yet, and millennials know it never will. They understand they must live for the moment, and the few enjoyable experiences they are able to afford. Fu*k the businesses that are dying. The millennials are not to blame for the CEO baby boomers who were too stupid to understand Reagan’s snake oil would eventually cause their worlds to come crashing down around them.

Millennials can read the handwriting on the wall. They know Reagan’s “Trickle Down” snake oil is a scam to keep wealth moving upward, and always has been. They can also understand that, until the stupid, conservative baby boomers die out, there is little they can do to help themselves. The stupid members of the boomer generation still have too much power. “Trickle Down” will continue, for now.

'Psychologically scarred' millennials are killing dozens of industries — and it's their parents' fault

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This sounds like a work of a complete political hack, designed to only market his vile ideology (which I suppose, will make him rich).

Facts, logic and reason certainly were nowhere to be found.
 
I started my career within 2 weeks of Reagan taking office. I came from a lower middle class family with no money and lots of debt. Mortgage interest rates were 18% car loans were over 20% thanks to Carternomics. 8 years later I was kicking ass and taking names thanks to the turnaround Reagan brought about. Call it whatever you want, Reaganomics worked for anyone willing to work.

Well that's just great! Hey everyone Mike says he did fine so everyone did great!
 
agree with Marathon Mike , i started seriously working in about 1970 and have done fine all these 47 years . Reagan was fine , i never noticed any problems Bertram !!
IGNORE THE NUMBERS, PIS HAS AN ANECDOTE!
------------------------------------ get outa yer MOMS basement and on your skateboard and go find a job ISlim !!
 
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Massive New TAXES , SPENDING, Deficits, Quantitative "Easing" , and Centrally Planned Stimulus by civil servants is what America needs...

For Growth !!!!!!!!!! Lmfao
 
agree with Marathon Mike , i started seriously working in about 1970 and have done fine all these 47 years . Reagan was fine , i never noticed any problems Bertram !!
IGNORE THE NUMBERS, PIS HAS AN ANECDOTE!
------------------------------------ get outa yer MOMS basement and on your skateboard and go find a job ISlim !!
Pis,


You've never been paid for your thinkin', have you......
 
Massive New TAXES , SPENDING, Deficits, Quantitative "Easing" , and Centrally Planned Stimulus by civil servants is what America needs...

For Growth !!!!!!!!!! Lmfao
Who has levied "massive new taxes"?

And the reason the Fed had to go to QE was because Congress wouldn't do its job....

and I'm gonna guess the closest you have ever come to studying economics is reading the account information on your checks....
 
So you have "Narratives" to compensate for your lack of data....

Don't see a lot of that.....You must be one of them Recidivist Supply Side Voting Imbeciles I've been reading about....

Wow, not many quislings admit they read propaganda. Good for you!

The data is historic record, there is plenty of it. For starters, a record-setting 97 consecutive months of economic growth. That's nearly an entire decade and it follows a period of recession as miserable as anything since the Great Depression, aka: The Carter Malaise.
 
'Trickle Down'

The practice of taking money from the middle class and letting it 'trickle down' to those addicted to / stuck depending on Govt Provided Social programs designed to help the poor survive but never improve their status to the point they can someday get off of those Programs, such as Food Stamps, Welfare, etc...

These programs are designed to keep people dependent on the federal govt and the politicians who promise to keep that money coming...as long as you vote for them.

THAT'S the real 'Trickle Down' in this country....
 

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