The Dem Position on the Debate.

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    Let me first say I didn't start this thread to debate who won the debate.

    I started it because all day long I have heard various Dem Officials say Biden had 2 goals,

    First to stop the Bleeding. Which I grant them he did accomplish.

    Second to Excite the base. Which Again I grant them he surely did.

    But what seems to be lost on them, and what I only heard a couple people ask them today is this.

    What does it mean as an incumbent Running for re-election. If 3 weeks out you are still needing to excite the base?

    Should not your Goal at this stage be to win the Support of Undecideds?

    I think it is an important question. What played great with the Base, did not go over nearly as well with others. Exciting the base is important, but is it worth alienating the Middle?
     
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    The Dems can't be feeling all that good right now...
    Obama is probably shocked that he now has to actually work at getting elected again.
     
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    He needed to RE-excite the base, which got pretty demoralized after a crappy first debate performance.
     
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    I don't think, they think they alienated anyone or lost prospective voters, now you and I may think so.........but, I am not sure there was anyone I think who was convinced one way or another BUT I bet there are more than a few that thought that biden was over the top and were turned off, but heck, no one I know votes for or against a prez. based on a veep debate.
     
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    I understand that, he basically had no choice. I am just wondering why they are so excited when it's gotten so low that 3 weeks out they had to focus on getting the Base interested again, when they need to be winning the Undecided Vote.

    I just do see how you move the needle so to speak, very much at this stage by exciting the base, especially when the way do it, May have actually hurt you with Independents.

    Who knows, it was a VP debate and they normally don't mean much. However coming after the last debate, It got more attention than usual.
     
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    I have read that Biden didn't get much appreciation for his attitude from some women on Twitter last night and I found the following posted at American Thinker a little while ago.

     
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    For all of you republicans, I think you need to step back try to take off your republicans glasses, and assess if Bidens performance was as off putting as you felt it was.

    Was he over the top? Yes. Were there points where I was turned off? Yes. However overall I thought he held his own, and hammered home the Obama message.
     
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    shoring up the base and winning the undecided is the same thing.
     
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    I find it odd that to excite his base he had to go on television and act like a demented hyena.

    If Obama were able to run on his record, this might have gone differently. As it is, he made a lots of trips to different states, Iowa being one of them, to continue his effort to sway voters. An incumbent with a good record just wouldn't have to go through all that.
     
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    Yep. Pounded home the obamaturd message of "I am lying my ass off." Has anyone counbted all the lies biden stated yet?
     

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