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While the Rolling Stones piece was an unflattering expose on the origins of Fox (Pseudo-News) it was not an ad hominem attack. Wake up, smell the coffee.
The article I posted indicated Rolling Stone is not interested in telling the truth ... So it doesn't matter what their article provided.
You must be putting too much whisky in your coffee.
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Or.....no coffee with his whisky.....more likely the problem......
Face it guy, Faux News started the hyper-partisanship to whine about President Clinton.
You're so fucking stupid.The above represents the phenomenon of "They all do it", the usual excuse offered by Democrats when one of their own has done something horrible Clinton lied under oarth. They all do it. Obama ordered the IRS to suppress TP groups ahead of the election. They all do it. Holder let guns into Mexico in some stupid scheme that got a US agent killed. They all do it. It is their ready made excuse, along with "September was a long time ago," and "what difference does it make at this point?".This began with Democrats, of course. I could tick off examples of Democrats demonizing Republicans for the last 10 years and exhaust the server space on this forum. We have never seen the level of lying and vitriol against Democrats by the GOP that we saw in, say, Alan Grayson's "Republicans want you to die quickly" speech on healthcare.
And Dems arent trustworthy in the least. Bush wanted the No Child Left Behind act passed. He left it up to Ted Kennedy to write. Kennedy wrote it and then denounced it on the floor of the Senate as being not generous enough.
You cannot work with people like that. You can only destroy them in every possible way. Democrats are the ISIS of the political scene.
The above post reflects the problem.
It's always "the other side that does it". This type of comment reflects what the outcome of partisan indoctrination does to simple-minded folks. They never question their ideology, they just skip along happily to whatever they are told. The dumbing-down process has been completed.
It's a Big World out there, some people just can't adjust or refuse to adjust to the vastness of ideas and solutions. It's always, just one way for them.
Are Republicans perfect? Clearly not, But they dont begin to rise to the level of personal destruction that Democrats do.
Oh I agree the Dems pull some real shit but then I'm not a Democrat, I'm a Independent voting moderate. You say "they do it all", well guess what? So does your party. You are so controlled by your ideology you have the inability to see the entire picture.
And that's problem I see with you and hyper-partisans (from both sides of the aisle) you never look critically at your own party/ideologically. You just point fingers at the opposition, it's easier and that's the way you're trained..
No, they dont all do it. Democrats are scum. I am sure Edgetho will be along to confirm this. Yeah Republicans can do some mean, boneheaded things sometimes. It happens. People are people. BUt nowhere near the mean nasty destructive shit that Democrats do. Take Harry Reid. Please.
You walked right into that one and it was so easy. 
I love it.Translation: I cannot refute the point so I'll pat myself on the back instead.You're so fucking stupid.The above represents the phenomenon of "They all do it", the usual excuse offered by Democrats when one of their own has done something horrible Clinton lied under oarth. They all do it. Obama ordered the IRS to suppress TP groups ahead of the election. They all do it. Holder let guns into Mexico in some stupid scheme that got a US agent killed. They all do it. It is their ready made excuse, along with "September was a long time ago," and "what difference does it make at this point?".This began with Democrats, of course. I could tick off examples of Democrats demonizing Republicans for the last 10 years and exhaust the server space on this forum. We have never seen the level of lying and vitriol against Democrats by the GOP that we saw in, say, Alan Grayson's "Republicans want you to die quickly" speech on healthcare.
And Dems arent trustworthy in the least. Bush wanted the No Child Left Behind act passed. He left it up to Ted Kennedy to write. Kennedy wrote it and then denounced it on the floor of the Senate as being not generous enough.
You cannot work with people like that. You can only destroy them in every possible way. Democrats are the ISIS of the political scene.
The above post reflects the problem.
It's always "the other side that does it". This type of comment reflects what the outcome of partisan indoctrination does to simple-minded folks. They never question their ideology, they just skip along happily to whatever they are told. The dumbing-down process has been completed.
It's a Big World out there, some people just can't adjust or refuse to adjust to the vastness of ideas and solutions. It's always, just one way for them.
Are Republicans perfect? Clearly not, But they dont begin to rise to the level of personal destruction that Democrats do.
Oh I agree the Dems pull some real shit but then I'm not a Democrat, I'm a Independent voting moderate. You say "they do it all", well guess what? So does your party. You are so controlled by your ideology you have the inability to see the entire picture.
And that's problem I see with you and hyper-partisans (from both sides of the aisle) you never look critically at your own party/ideologically. You just point fingers at the opposition, it's easier and that's the way you're trained..
No, they dont all do it. Democrats are scum. I am sure Edgetho will be along to confirm this. Yeah Republicans can do some mean, boneheaded things sometimes. It happens. People are people. BUt nowhere near the mean nasty destructive shit that Democrats do. Take Harry Reid. Please.
Excellent! You not only confirmed my point, you are verifying the OP's point. Congratulations!
Edgetho? Wooo, another hyper-partisan hack. Boy, that'll tell me!
You can call me stupid all day, but at least I don't make myself look like an idiot at the consistency rate you do to yourself.
You are so much fun to play with and you don't even grasp the fact you're being used as a point of a joke.
Yes Obama is in the same category as Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Herbert Hoover,and Warren Harding.
Romney is in the same category as Bill Gates abd Andrew Carnegie.
Raygun? Where did you learn that? FoxNews?
You just blew your whole point. Thanks.
Yes, people make money by destroying companies. Sure.Yes Obama is in the same category as Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Herbert Hoover,and Warren Harding.
Romney is in the same category as Bill Gates abd Andrew Carnegie.
Wrong. Romney is not in the same category as either Bill Gates or Andrew Carnegie. Bill Gates founded Microsoft and created computer operating systems used around the world. Carnegie built railroads and trains, founded American Steel, made a fortune, and gave 90% of his fortune away. Carnegie called on the wealthy to use their fortunes for the good of society. Gates is also committed to giving away most of his fortune.
Romney built nothing, invented nothing, and believes that half the population of the United States are useless leeches. Romney made his money in vulture capitalism - stripping companies bare, selling off their assets, and shipping their jobs overseas. Romney is a destroyer.
That you would even suggest that Romney is the comparable to these two great men shows what a poor judge of character you are.
Wow, some people never fucking learn.Raygun? Where did you learn that? FoxNews?
You just blew your whole point. Thanks.
Joan Baez at Woodstock. In the 60's. Yes, us hippies have been calling him Ronnie Raygun (ZAPPPP!!!!) since the 60's.
Bill Gates didn't create a operating system he stole it.Yes Obama is in the same category as Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Herbert Hoover,and Warren Harding.
Romney is in the same category as Bill Gates abd Andrew Carnegie.
Wrong. Romney is not in the same category as either Bill Gates or Andrew Carnegie. Bill Gates founded Microsoft and created computer operating systems used around the world. Carnegie built railroads and trains, founded American Steel, made a fortune, and gave 90% of his fortune away. Carnegie called on the wealthy to use their fortunes for the good of society. Gates is also committed to giving away most of his fortune.
Romney built nothing, invented nothing, and believes that half the population of the United States are useless leeches. Romney made his money in vulture capitalism - stripping companies bare, selling off their assets, and shipping their jobs overseas. Romney is a destroyer.
That you would even suggest that Romney is the comparable to these two great men shows what a poor judge of character you are.
Translation: I cannot refute the point so I'll pat myself on the back instead.You're so fucking stupid.The above represents the phenomenon of "They all do it", the usual excuse offered by Democrats when one of their own has done something horrible Clinton lied under oarth. They all do it. Obama ordered the IRS to suppress TP groups ahead of the election. They all do it. Holder let guns into Mexico in some stupid scheme that got a US agent killed. They all do it. It is their ready made excuse, along with "September was a long time ago," and "what difference does it make at this point?".The above post reflects the problem.
It's always "the other side that does it". This type of comment reflects what the outcome of partisan indoctrination does to simple-minded folks. They never question their ideology, they just skip along happily to whatever they are told. The dumbing-down process has been completed.
It's a Big World out there, some people just can't adjust or refuse to adjust to the vastness of ideas and solutions. It's always, just one way for them.
Are Republicans perfect? Clearly not, But they dont begin to rise to the level of personal destruction that Democrats do.
Oh I agree the Dems pull some real shit but then I'm not a Democrat, I'm a Independent voting moderate. You say "they do it all", well guess what? So does your party. You are so controlled by your ideology you have the inability to see the entire picture.
And that's problem I see with you and hyper-partisans (from both sides of the aisle) you never look critically at your own party/ideologically. You just point fingers at the opposition, it's easier and that's the way you're trained..
No, they dont all do it. Democrats are scum. I am sure Edgetho will be along to confirm this. Yeah Republicans can do some mean, boneheaded things sometimes. It happens. People are people. BUt nowhere near the mean nasty destructive shit that Democrats do. Take Harry Reid. Please.
Excellent! You not only confirmed my point, you are verifying the OP's point. Congratulations!
Edgetho? Wooo, another hyper-partisan hack. Boy, that'll tell me!
You can call me stupid all day, but at least I don't make myself look like an idiot at the consistency rate you do to yourself.
You are so much fun to play with and you don't even grasp the fact you're being used as a point of a joke.
Aww, you stupid?Translation: I cannot refute the point so I'll pat myself on the back instead.You're so fucking stupid.The above represents the phenomenon of "They all do it", the usual excuse offered by Democrats when one of their own has done something horrible Clinton lied under oarth. They all do it. Obama ordered the IRS to suppress TP groups ahead of the election. They all do it. Holder let guns into Mexico in some stupid scheme that got a US agent killed. They all do it. It is their ready made excuse, along with "September was a long time ago," and "what difference does it make at this point?".
Are Republicans perfect? Clearly not, But they dont begin to rise to the level of personal destruction that Democrats do.
Oh I agree the Dems pull some real shit but then I'm not a Democrat, I'm a Independent voting moderate. You say "they do it all", well guess what? So does your party. You are so controlled by your ideology you have the inability to see the entire picture.
And that's problem I see with you and hyper-partisans (from both sides of the aisle) you never look critically at your own party/ideologically. You just point fingers at the opposition, it's easier and that's the way you're trained..
No, they dont all do it. Democrats are scum. I am sure Edgetho will be along to confirm this. Yeah Republicans can do some mean, boneheaded things sometimes. It happens. People are people. BUt nowhere near the mean nasty destructive shit that Democrats do. Take Harry Reid. Please.
Excellent! You not only confirmed my point, you are verifying the OP's point. Congratulations!
Edgetho? Wooo, another hyper-partisan hack. Boy, that'll tell me!
You can call me stupid all day, but at least I don't make myself look like an idiot at the consistency rate you do to yourself.
You are so much fun to play with and you don't even grasp the fact you're being used as a point of a joke.
Awwww, you mad?
Yes Obama is in the same category as Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Herbert Hoover,and Warren Harding.
Romney is in the same category as Bill Gates abd Andrew Carnegie.
Wrong. Romney is not in the same category as either Bill Gates or Andrew Carnegie. Bill Gates founded Microsoft and created computer operating systems used around the world. Carnegie built railroads and trains, founded American Steel, made a fortune, and gave 90% of his fortune away. Carnegie called on the wealthy to use their fortunes for the good of society. Gates is also committed to giving away most of his fortune.
Romney built nothing, invented nothing, and believes that half the population of the United States are useless leeches. Romney made his money in vulture capitalism - stripping companies bare, selling off their assets, and shipping their jobs overseas. Romney is a destroyer.
That you would even suggest that Romney is the comparable to these two great men shows what a poor judge of character you are.
Facts are stubborn things.Yes Obama is in the same category as Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Herbert Hoover,and Warren Harding.
Romney is in the same category as Bill Gates abd Andrew Carnegie.
Wrong. Romney is not in the same category as either Bill Gates or Andrew Carnegie. Bill Gates founded Microsoft and created computer operating systems used around the world. Carnegie built railroads and trains, founded American Steel, made a fortune, and gave 90% of his fortune away. Carnegie called on the wealthy to use their fortunes for the good of society. Gates is also committed to giving away most of his fortune.
Romney built nothing, invented nothing, and believes that half the population of the United States are useless leeches. Romney made his money in vulture capitalism - stripping companies bare, selling off their assets, and shipping their jobs overseas. Romney is a destroyer.
That you would even suggest that Romney is the comparable to these two great men shows what a poor judge of character you are.
An Inside Look At The Millions Mitt Romney Has Given Away - Forbes
Facts are stubborn things.Yes Obama is in the same category as Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Herbert Hoover,and Warren Harding.
Romney is in the same category as Bill Gates abd Andrew Carnegie.
Wrong. Romney is not in the same category as either Bill Gates or Andrew Carnegie. Bill Gates founded Microsoft and created computer operating systems used around the world. Carnegie built railroads and trains, founded American Steel, made a fortune, and gave 90% of his fortune away. Carnegie called on the wealthy to use their fortunes for the good of society. Gates is also committed to giving away most of his fortune.
Romney built nothing, invented nothing, and believes that half the population of the United States are useless leeches. Romney made his money in vulture capitalism - stripping companies bare, selling off their assets, and shipping their jobs overseas. Romney is a destroyer.
That you would even suggest that Romney is the comparable to these two great men shows what a poor judge of character you are.
An Inside Look At The Millions Mitt Romney Has Given Away - Forbes
Idiot. The super rich (whoever they are) pay almost all the taxes in this country. The bottom 47% pay no income tax at all. Why dont you do some R&D on your intellect and pave a highway up your ass?Facts are stubborn things.Yes Obama is in the same category as Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Herbert Hoover,and Warren Harding.
Romney is in the same category as Bill Gates abd Andrew Carnegie.
Wrong. Romney is not in the same category as either Bill Gates or Andrew Carnegie. Bill Gates founded Microsoft and created computer operating systems used around the world. Carnegie built railroads and trains, founded American Steel, made a fortune, and gave 90% of his fortune away. Carnegie called on the wealthy to use their fortunes for the good of society. Gates is also committed to giving away most of his fortune.
Romney built nothing, invented nothing, and believes that half the population of the United States are useless leeches. Romney made his money in vulture capitalism - stripping companies bare, selling off their assets, and shipping their jobs overseas. Romney is a destroyer.
That you would even suggest that Romney is the comparable to these two great men shows what a poor judge of character you are.
An Inside Look At The Millions Mitt Romney Has Given Away - Forbes
But hey we should never tax the super rich as they're our royality! You wouldn't know facts if it flied straight up your fucking ass!
But hey we should never tax the super rich as they're our royality! You wouldn't know facts if it flied straight up your fucking ass!
A solution to partisanship might be the dissolving of political parties entirely. Each pol should stand alone..
Good piece by Dana Milbank: America s new cycle of partisan hatred - The Washington Post
A few points from it:
-- Up until the mid-1980s, the typical American held the view that partisans on the other side operated with good intentions. But that has changed in dramatic fashion, as a study published last year by Stanford and Princeton researchers demonstrates.
It has long been agreed that race is the deepest divide in American society. But that is no longer true, say Shanto Iyengar and Sean Westwood, the academics who led the study. Using a variety of social science methods (for example, having study participants review résumés of people that make both their race and party affiliation clear), they document that “the level of partisan animus in the American public exceeds racial hostility.”
-- This leads to a grim conclusion: The problem with politics isn’t Washington but the electorate. Members of Congress, most of whom come from safely gerrymandered districts, are behaving in a perfectly rational way when they avoid cooperation with the other party and instead try to build support within their own tribe.
Elected officials and professional partisans then reinforce the tribal tendency in the electorate with overheated rhetoric, perpetual campaigns, negative ads and increasingly partisan media outlets. “The individuals who hold more hostility are then given the green light to hold these more hostile positions,” Westwood explained.
So does he see a way out of this tribal cycle of hatred? “Sadly, no.”
Sadly, indeed.
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Societies are tribal. We'd end up doing the same thing under different names.A solution to partisanship might be the dissolving of political parties entirely. Each pol should stand alone..
Good piece by Dana Milbank: America s new cycle of partisan hatred - The Washington Post
A few points from it:
-- Up until the mid-1980s, the typical American held the view that partisans on the other side operated with good intentions. But that has changed in dramatic fashion, as a study published last year by Stanford and Princeton researchers demonstrates.
It has long been agreed that race is the deepest divide in American society. But that is no longer true, say Shanto Iyengar and Sean Westwood, the academics who led the study. Using a variety of social science methods (for example, having study participants review résumés of people that make both their race and party affiliation clear), they document that “the level of partisan animus in the American public exceeds racial hostility.”
-- This leads to a grim conclusion: The problem with politics isn’t Washington but the electorate. Members of Congress, most of whom come from safely gerrymandered districts, are behaving in a perfectly rational way when they avoid cooperation with the other party and instead try to build support within their own tribe.
Elected officials and professional partisans then reinforce the tribal tendency in the electorate with overheated rhetoric, perpetual campaigns, negative ads and increasingly partisan media outlets. “The individuals who hold more hostility are then given the green light to hold these more hostile positions,” Westwood explained.
So does he see a way out of this tribal cycle of hatred? “Sadly, no.”
Sadly, indeed.
.
Equating tribalism to political parties is not accurate. The Ds and Rs are not tribes. Tribalism is an antiquated idea and is not necessary in the 21st century.Societies are tribal. We'd end up doing the same thing under different names.A solution to partisanship might be the dissolving of political parties entirely. Each pol should stand alone..
Good piece by Dana Milbank: America s new cycle of partisan hatred - The Washington Post
A few points from it:
-- Up until the mid-1980s, the typical American held the view that partisans on the other side operated with good intentions. But that has changed in dramatic fashion, as a study published last year by Stanford and Princeton researchers demonstrates.
It has long been agreed that race is the deepest divide in American society. But that is no longer true, say Shanto Iyengar and Sean Westwood, the academics who led the study. Using a variety of social science methods (for example, having study participants review résumés of people that make both their race and party affiliation clear), they document that “the level of partisan animus in the American public exceeds racial hostility.”
-- This leads to a grim conclusion: The problem with politics isn’t Washington but the electorate. Members of Congress, most of whom come from safely gerrymandered districts, are behaving in a perfectly rational way when they avoid cooperation with the other party and instead try to build support within their own tribe.
Elected officials and professional partisans then reinforce the tribal tendency in the electorate with overheated rhetoric, perpetual campaigns, negative ads and increasingly partisan media outlets. “The individuals who hold more hostility are then given the green light to hold these more hostile positions,” Westwood explained.
So does he see a way out of this tribal cycle of hatred? “Sadly, no.”
Sadly, indeed.
.
I'd think what might work is if enough national "leaders" (politics, popular culture, etc etc) were brave enough to hold a mirror to our faces to show us how similar the behavior is on both ends of the spectrum. That is the last thing partisans want to see, because they hate being equated with or compared to those they loathe. Like Dracula and sunlight.
Someone of significant influence (and certainly this would need to be several) needs to be brave and set some examples, issue some challenges.
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Yeah, can't argue, I suspect it's a pipe dream.Equating tribalism to political parties is not accurate. The Ds and Rs are not tribes. Tribalism is an antiquated idea and is not necessary in the 21st century.Societies are tribal. We'd end up doing the same thing under different names.A solution to partisanship might be the dissolving of political parties entirely. Each pol should stand alone..
Good piece by Dana Milbank: America s new cycle of partisan hatred - The Washington Post
A few points from it:
-- Up until the mid-1980s, the typical American held the view that partisans on the other side operated with good intentions. But that has changed in dramatic fashion, as a study published last year by Stanford and Princeton researchers demonstrates.
It has long been agreed that race is the deepest divide in American society. But that is no longer true, say Shanto Iyengar and Sean Westwood, the academics who led the study. Using a variety of social science methods (for example, having study participants review résumés of people that make both their race and party affiliation clear), they document that “the level of partisan animus in the American public exceeds racial hostility.”
-- This leads to a grim conclusion: The problem with politics isn’t Washington but the electorate. Members of Congress, most of whom come from safely gerrymandered districts, are behaving in a perfectly rational way when they avoid cooperation with the other party and instead try to build support within their own tribe.
Elected officials and professional partisans then reinforce the tribal tendency in the electorate with overheated rhetoric, perpetual campaigns, negative ads and increasingly partisan media outlets. “The individuals who hold more hostility are then given the green light to hold these more hostile positions,” Westwood explained.
So does he see a way out of this tribal cycle of hatred? “Sadly, no.”
Sadly, indeed.
.
I'd think what might work is if enough national "leaders" (politics, popular culture, etc etc) were brave enough to hold a mirror to our faces to show us how similar the behavior is on both ends of the spectrum. That is the last thing partisans want to see, because they hate being equated with or compared to those they loathe. Like Dracula and sunlight.
Someone of significant influence (and certainly this would need to be several) needs to be brave and set some examples, issue some challenges.
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I think you are dreaming to think a leader will come forth to change things. The two major parties are invested in the status quo and will not allow change.
