The Bible Lies. As does The Qur'an

[BreezeWood]

Good for you.

It's still just a book.

... It's still just a book.

no, it is not just a book, it is a corrupt religion that enables the most deviant in society a means to do great harm against innocents they fear.

 

[Zander]

Good for you.

It's still just a book.

... It's still just a book.


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no, it is not just a book, it is a corrupt religion that enables the most deviant in society a means to do great harm against innocents they fear.

Socialism has killed more people than all of the holy wars in history. Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"?

 

[BreezeWood]

Good for you.

It's still just a book.

... It's still just a book.


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no, it is not just a book, it is a corrupt religion that enables the most deviant in society a means to do great harm against innocents they fear.

Socialism has killed more people than all of the holy wars in history. Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"?

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Socialism has killed more people than all of the holy wars in history. Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"?

- Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"


the christian bible is a 4th century forgery that from that time to the present has been responsible for the persecution and victimization of innocent people without a single period otherwise that is the subject matter of the discussion ... not your fallacy about socialism.

 

[AVG-JOE]

God (the original cause) created the heavens and the Earth. A lie? PROVE IT.
The Earth was originally formless and empty. A lie? PROVE IT.
Darkness was over the surface. A lie? Prove it.
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. A lie? PROVE IT.
There was evening and there was morning, night and day. A lie? PROVE IT.

Sir...

You are the one making fantastic claims

I've not made a single claim, much less a fantastic one. You are the one who made the claim the Bible lies, and I've not yet seen you make any proof to support that, not that I care.

if you can convince me that there is a God,

I could care less what you believe. If you are looking for proof in a book, then you'll never find it. The proof comes from within, what is called direct experience (and no, that is not faith), and as you've had no direct, personal experience, it shall remain for you forever nothing more than another dry, sterile, intellectual pursuit.

You're right. I admit it... I don't know you and I am ass-u-me-ing that your defense of The Bible means something in 21st Century America that may or may not apply to your personal situation.

You have my apology. Sorry that I applied a generalization to you.

That said, I stand behind the thesis of my post.

In general, it is the Christians and the Muslims who are making some pretty bizarre claims about Origins, Afterlife and current Civil Law based on ancient tales from The Middle East, and I'm calling "Bullshit!" on all y'all.


"Bullshit!"

I fully admit that anything is possible, including the stories told by, and the conclusions reached about, The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an, and if any of them are the truth, The God of Abraham is preparing a very special place for me to be tortured in His Hell. I gotta tell you... I ain't too worried.





Step one to sending Monkey Spawn to the stars is to understand and admit that anything truly is possible.

Step two is continuing education and dynamically deciding, on a daily basis if necessary, what's probable.​

Are you kids there yet?

 

[Kat]

Joe Joe Joe.

 

[AVG-JOE]

The blood shed over these three books. The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an.

Monkeys wielding the will of God. Justification in the Name of (insert your preferred Deity here).

It breaks my heart.​

 

[Disir]

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Not true on paper, especially against the backdrop of our history, and not true in practice.

Ebola is far from alone as a living thing that we share this planet with that still kills Monkeys despite the emerging technology to fight it that has cost Monkeys so dearly to learn.....

Perhaps the point is not in immediate dominion but rather an example of decision making, the dynamics (power structure) in relationships.

Who is us?

Let us make

 

[toobfreak]

You're right. I admit it... I don't know you and I am ass-u-me-ing that your defense of The Bible means something in 21st Century America that may or may not apply to your personal situation.

Not really "defending " the Bible-- -- -- I know the Bible, used to be able to rattle off all the books in order, and I was born/baptized Lutheran, but I've moved on to better things, away from Noah and the Earth being only 2000 years old and other dogma to more serious religions that get far more deep and make a whole lot of sense more in tune with my own personal inner experiences.

 

[LittleNipper]

In my humble opinion.

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Like other works of religious dogma, the bible was written by men – and men have been lying since the dawn of time.

If men wrote the Bible without any inspiration from GOD, they certainly painted a very bleak picture of themselves. And that seems highly unlikely.

 

[LittleNipper]

Good for you.

It's still just a book.

... It's still just a book.


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no, it is not just a book, it is a corrupt religion that enables the most deviant in society a means to do great harm against innocents they fear.

Socialism has killed more people than all of the holy wars in history. Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"?

.

Socialism has killed more people than all of the holy wars in history. Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"?

- Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"


the christian bible is a 4th century forgery that from that time to the present has been responsible for the persecution and victimization of innocent people without a single period otherwise that is the subject matter of the discussion ... not your fallacy about socialism.

The Bible was entirely written before 100 AD. The Book of Revelation was written about 95 AD and is considered the very last book that GOD inspired as scripture. It completes the total picture and brings the universe and earth to its final end and rebirth.

 

[Crepitus]

In my humble opinion.

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It's an interesting work of fiction historically. It's not particularly well written and contradicts itself repeatedly but it's interesting just the same.

 

[AVG-JOE]

In my humble opinion.

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Like other works of religious dogma, the bible was written by men – and men have been lying since the dawn of time.

If men wrote the Bible without any inspiration from GOD, they certainly painted a very bleak picture of themselves. And that seems highly unlikely.

Perhaps they were just talking story and telling it like it was when it was happening to them.

Dragging a kicking and screaming and dogma adhering baby Sentience out of the swamp of a living Timeline is hard work.

Baby steps to the stars. Baby steps.

 

[AVG-JOE]

So nothing to say.... but the OP can't cite a single lie, repeats education over and over, while apparently not being educated on the Bible... and that's it? Nothing else?

Well this was anti-climatic.

I cited one on the first page which has yet to be addressed. Man's God-given dominion over the earth.

I call bullshit... what control mankind is exerting over the planet is self taught through trial and error - mostly error. Just like Evolution would predict. There has never been any "fatherly guidance" given anyone in historical authority that greed didn't completely over shadow - just like Evolution would predict.

In spite of our 21st Century "Civilization" and all the worship and accomplishments done in the name of The God of Abraham as described in The Torah, The New Testament and The Qur'an to get us here, there is no justice from The Sky.

Unless enforced by those of us living at THIS moment on THIS Timeline, there is no justice period.

Daddy is not coming to save the planet. It's up to Momma's little semi-Sentient bastard Monkeys.

It's time to grow the fuck up, stop bleeding over old stories and take some responsibility for the future.

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[AVG-JOE]

The biggest lie of all:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Nothing changed.

Monkeys, were scared little fatherless bastards, hording like frightened squirrels and more than willing to kill each other over resource control before Christ, and Monkeys have been getting nothing but better at brutally funneling resources up the food-chain, survival-of-the-most-fit style, ever since. Every generation pushing economic brutality to the limits of their Timeperiod, just like Evolution would predict.

Based on stories written thirty to seventy years after the events in a Timeperiod rife with political turmoil and genuine danger, I'm calling 'bullshit!' on the empty tomb concept.

If God, as in THE Creator of the Universe, actually loved the world to the point of so much sacrifice, something would have changed.

I call 'bullshit!' on John 3:16 ​

 

[LittleNipper]

In my humble opinion.

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It's an interesting work of fiction historically. It's not particularly well written and contradicts itself repeatedly but it's interesting just the same.

Show me an example. The 23 Psalm is the most recited of any of your "well" written literature. I find it neither poorly written nor contradictory when thoroughly studied.

 

[LittleNipper]

The biggest lie of all:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Nothing changed.

Monkeys, were scared little fatherless bastards, hording like frightened squirrels and more than willing to kill each other over resource control before Christ, and Monkeys have been getting nothing but better at brutally funneling resources up the food-chain, survival-of-the-most-fit style, ever since. Every generation pushing economic brutality to the limits of their Timeperiod, just like Evolution would predict.

Based on stories written thirty to seventy years after the events in a Timeperiod rife with political turmoil and genuine danger, I'm calling 'bullshit!' on the empty tomb concept.

If God, as in THE Creator of the Universe, actually loved the world to the point of so much sacrifice, something would have changed.

I call 'bull---!' on John 3:16 ​

Something did change. There's now a way to the presence of GOD.

 

[BreezeWood]

Good for you.

It's still just a book.

... It's still just a book.


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no, it is not just a book, it is a corrupt religion that enables the most deviant in society a means to do great harm against innocents they fear.

Socialism has killed more people than all of the holy wars in history. Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"?

.

Socialism has killed more people than all of the holy wars in history. Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"?

- Do you hate and fear that as much as "the bible"


the christian bible is a 4th century forgery that from that time to the present has been responsible for the persecution and victimization of innocent people without a single period otherwise that is the subject matter of the discussion ... not your fallacy about socialism.

The Bible was entirely written before 100 AD. The Book of Revelation was written about 95 AD and is considered the very last book that GOD inspired as scripture. It completes the total picture and brings the universe and earth to its final end and rebirth.

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The Bible was entirely written before 100 AD. The Book of Revelation was written about 95 AD and is considered the very last book that GOD inspired as scripture. It completes the total picture and brings the universe and earth to its final end and rebirth.

the christian bible was compiled in the late 4th century and was laced with forgeries and political appeasements to sway the general welfare in a narrow and self serving purpose - of course you know that because you are one of them ....


“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”.

the above is a forgery for the purpose described above.

It completes the total picture and brings the universe and earth to its final end and rebirth.

no, your book is a cataclysm - the Triumph of Good will be the only ending that humanity will not end in extinction.


the religion of Antiquity is 6 words long - The Triumph of Good vs Evil - your 10,000 pg document falls far short if not antithetical to the religions expressed purpose.

 

[AVG-JOE]

The biggest lie of all:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Nothing changed.

Monkeys, were scared little fatherless bastards, hording like frightened squirrels and more than willing to kill each other over resource control before Christ, and Monkeys have been getting nothing but better at brutally funneling resources up the food-chain, survival-of-the-most-fit style, ever since. Every generation pushing economic brutality to the limits of their Timeperiod, just like Evolution would predict.

Based on stories written thirty to seventy years after the events in a Timeperiod rife with political turmoil and genuine danger, I'm calling 'bullshit!' on the empty tomb concept.

If God, as in THE Creator of the Universe, actually loved the world to the point of so much sacrifice, something would have changed.

I call 'bull---!' on John 3:16 ​

Something did change. There's now a way to the presence of GOD.

If that were true, people would have changed.

I still call bullshit.

 

[hobelim]

I'm calling 'bullshit!' on the empty tomb concept.

Everything depends on how one looks at it. Jesus compared pharisaic beliefs and practices to whitewash tombs full of corruption and dead mens bones.

Thats the tomb that couldn't confine him or keep him from rising to life and that ain't no bull. He pretty much said, thank you very much for the invitation but fuck you....at least according to the story.


Seriously, how many tombs have people tried to lure you into?

If I look into any of them would I ever find you in there babbling incoherently asking a figment of your imagination for special favors??

Maybe the empty tomb concept is not bullshit anymore than your own experience is bullshit.

 

[skye]

so

if the Bible lies....

what is the use of destroying the little faith people have?

why what for