The Anthropocene

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    Then you are stupid.

    What was the area of a cubic meter of atmosphere again? I never got an answer...and how much of that "area" is even capable of radiating? And how much would be radiating at any time?
     
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    It has everything to do with your post because they control the purse strings and use taxpayers money how they choose. These are important points that you either choose to ignore for your own gain, or don't understand.
     
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    As far as cleaning the environment of ocean plastics, deforestation, smog, etc I think the governments of all countries should be concerned, but they are not.

    It seems you want to steer this thread to the politics of AGW. Yes, that is important, but this is not the place. There are plenty of threads concerned with that.

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    They are not concerned because actually cleaning pollution up doesn't give them power.

    Use your head.
     
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    This is another of your incredibly stupid posts.
    Because you THINK the earth is "inherently stable" doesn't mean it and it's systems/environment can't be destroyed from within. ie "absolutely stable."
    We are not a metallic asteroid, we are on a living breathing system that we are dramatically changing the balance of.

    Lakes are "inherently stable" but some have been drained dry by our agricultural needs or polluted/acidified beyond use.

    Vans are "inherently stable" until you cram the 18th person in. Or 25th.
    It's unbelievable stupid to think the human explosion and it's needs/byproducts can't harm it.


    Man's population was "inherently stable" until we reached a certain ability to overcome "Inherent Nature."
    Other species are stuck with "inherently natural" elimination by local conditions.
    We Used to be too.
    No longer.
    We can ship 500,000 tons of wheat to China
    We can save a whole continent, and half a planet from things like AIDS and EBOLA.

    Human's life span was local and app 30 years for 99.9% of our existence.
    We have exceeded the "Inherent" abilities and number of any other species.
    We have conquered Nature and are over running it.

    Someone mentioned plastics in the ocean, etc.
    That's Cosmetic BS compared to warming, acidifying, and Filling our Oceans with human waste products and fertilizer necessary to feed 7.7 Billion people on land otherwise not nourishing enough to feed that population.

    There are Plagues of seaweed, Green and Reg Algae now common in our own/USA Southern Seas fed by these human and agricultural byproducts.
    I see them increase yearly now along with the destruction (by human runoff, lawn, ag fertilizer, 100 kinds of waste) of estuaries/reefs needed to nurse sea life/fish we feed on.

    When I was born (even 25) here were virtually no farmed fish.
    Now the majority is because we have in good degree fished out and polluted their "Inherently stable" populations.

    And not only humans have contributed to this destruction, our livestock and the grain/fertilizer needed to feed it has.

    I don't want to make this dependent on the obvious AGW (that Every respectable Scientific org and Country agrees on) as all the above would be enough. But obviously that too is a huge problem and sea level will be/has started taking it's toll as well as other effects.

    Nothing is "Absolutely Stable", your real if UNWITTING assertion implying the earth can take anything but an asteroid hit.
    That is so obviously Untrue/ignorant it's impossible to debate such an idiotic premise.

    If the human population went to 3x more, is it still "inherently stable", or is there a number we may already have reached that starts destroying the very eco-system we need?
    Of course there IS such a number, and we're there.

    Is the human population and it's byproducts "inherently stable"?
    NOT remotely.


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    You seemed obsessed about this. What is your point? Are you mad that AGW is giving some political group power? You have to understand that I don't think like you do, so don't give me that "use your head" crap. What is in my head is not the same as what is in your head. There is a great weltanschauung divide between people especially in the western world.

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    Yes, the planet is inherently stable. Morons, like you, can only think in terms of your infinitely small lifespan because you are incapable of large scale thinking.

    The Earth is old. Very, very old. It's operating on time scales that span not just your puny life. But the lives of civilizations.

    Things that are beginning now, will not reach their end for hundreds of years. The thought that man, in a few decades can affect things on a global scale is incredibly arrogant.

    We can bring about a climate catastrophe. that being a nuclear winter. We are capable of throwing enough dirt, and crap up into the upper atmosphere, which takes years to cleanse itself, that a little ice age type catastrophe is possible.

    But generating enough energy to raise the temperature of the globe?

    Get real. We are centuries from that capacity.
     
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