Discussion in 'Environment' started by Coyote, Sep 26, 2019.
I looked it up on Amazon. I will put it on my reading list.
I have educated myself on this more than you would know. You certainly have a Western way of generalizing what our planet and people are about. It is not a black and white problem.
you are talking about a singular - or ie, like today in an environment we created.
this concept is more global in nature and not anchored in any specific event. mankind has always longed for more, which leads to all the religions we have in an effort to understand ourselves and place in ... well everything.
people speak the way they know how. to expect people to speak in my own terms in itself seems pretty limiting.
we do pollute our oceans.
we do strip mine
we do decimate forests for $ gain and our use
but yes, to only focus on the negative is also a one way street. we do a lot of good things also but right now we seem to ignore our impact on the planet. of that i agree is dangerous. but i don't believe we're all dead in 12 / 24 / 36 years.
a focus on cleaning up after ourselves and creating more environment friendly way of doing things would go a long way to helping. what isn't helping is thinking you can pass laws to outlaw plastic straws and force behavior. that adds to, not resolves, the issue to me.
I remember movie too, it keft a huge impression on that continues today.
What concerns me though, in environmental matters including climate change, is where is the tipping point?
I have no idea. You can read what IPCC says. If there is a tipping point and if it is in a couple decades, it doesn't matter, we will reach it, and for those concerned, there isn't much they can do because carbon usage will probably not go down.
That's it exactly. I hate the fact that the Oceans have become dumping grounds and plastics are entering the food chain. Air pollution is horrendous I can't imagine living in a city where the sky is brown and your throat burns everyday. So clean it up! Simple as that. Don't make the alarmist leap to doomsday scenarios for your global power grab! Just fuckin clean it up!
Tards "know". The real world doesnt believe in their religion
we're bugs now?
somehow i'm less than enlightened....
I would hazard a guess I am far more versed in the subject than you. My business WAS cleaning up environmental disasters. Mankind can, and does, do tremendous damage at the local level.
However, to equate mankind with a virus is asinine. Technology has elevated mankind out of the depths of poverty. You people preach about "sustainable" economies, but they don't exist. If you are merely managing a sustainable lifestyle the first natural disaster that comes along is going to wipe you out.
Technology reduces birth rates. Western civil society reduces pollution. You want to see terrible pollution? Go to any third world country and it will be right in front of you.
This AGW horse poo has done real damage to the conservation efforts of anti pollution groups worldwide because instead of investing in real solutions, the money goes to groups working to enact socialism worldwide.
You need to wake up.
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