The $5 Trillion Man: Debt Has Increased Under Obama by $5,027,761,476,484.56

[kiwiman127]

The National Debt on the first day of the first Obama fiscal year-11,920,519,164,319.42
The National Debt today-15,667,467,925,869.05
Someone's math is a little off?
Not to discount the fact that after Obama leaves office that he will go down as the biggest and fastest spender of all presidents in the history of the US, but someone is exaggerating. But then CNS was used as a reference. During the first 9 months that CNS included, the US was operating under the Bush fical year's budget.

 

[Synthaholic]

The current guy has run up more on that crefit card in less than half the time.
Anyone who criticizes Bush for the debt accumulated while he was in office and isnt a partisan bigot will criticize The Obama that much more so.

That is false.

because you say so.

No, because it's false.

And do you know how everybody else can see that it's false? The fact that none of you will break down his spending in a post and prove your argument.

You just repeat your talking points without being able to back them up.

 

[KevinWestern]

The National Debt on the first day of the first Obama fiscal year-11,920,519,164,319.42
The National Debt today-15,667,467,925,869.05
Someone's math is a little off?
Not to discount the fact that after Obama leaves office that he will go down as the biggest and fastest spender of all presidents in the history of the US, but someone is exaggerating. But then CNS was used as a reference. During the first 9 months that CNS included, the US was operating under the Bush fical year's budget.

That's why they say that "there's lies, damned lies, and statistics".

The mainstream news networks feed us a continual stream of biased garbage (on both sides of the political aisle). It’s really hard these days to come across people or information outlets that genuinely strive to put out a “full spectrum” picture of what’s going on with our economy and this Obama Presidency.

I think the reason is ratings, and the fact that people deep down are highly entertained by conflict (in almost a sort of animalistic way) and get off when someone claims to have the “absolute correct opinion”. This is why our society and political culture are continually becoming more and more senselessly extremist.

People tend to feel much more at ease when they can designate a scapegoat (like Obama) as the sole cause for all of the problems they're experiencing; it makes them feel as if they have an explanation or grasp on the situation without requiring the person to actually do any hard analysis or "soul searching" with regards to what's actually going on (ie get rid of him and everything will be OK!).

Unfortunately these feelings of “ease” are superficial, and only lead us into a giant pile of collective shit, where eventually no one will feel at ease.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The National Debt on the first day of the first Obama fiscal year-11,920,519,164,319.42
The National Debt today-15,667,467,925,869.05
Someone's math is a little off?

Nope. Obama took office 1-20-2009. The clock starts there.

 

[kiwiman127]

The National Debt on the first day of the first Obama fiscal year-11,920,519,164,319.42
The National Debt today-15,667,467,925,869.05
Someone's math is a little off?

Nope. Obama took office 1-20-2009. The clock starts there.

Wrong!

fiscal year - The fiscal year is the accounting period for the federal government which begins on October 1 and ends on September 30. The fiscal year is designated by the calendar year in which it ends; for example, fiscal year 2013 begins on October 1, 2012 and ends on September 30, 2013. Congress passes appropriations legislation to fund the government for every fiscal year.
U.S. Senate: Reference Home > Glossary > fiscal year

 

[M14 Shooter]

The last guy ran up the credit card.

If you weren't a complete imbecile you would know that.

The current guy has run up more on that crefit card in less than half the time.
Anyone who criticizes Bush for the debt accumulated while he was in office and isnt a partisan bigot will criticize The Obama that much more so.

That is false.

You are either lying, or -impressively- ignorant.

Total debt held by public
1-20-2001 $5,727B
1-20-2009 $10,626B $4899B in 8 years
4-18-2012 $15660B $5034B in <4 years
Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

So, which is it?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Quite a few million has been added to the debt while you guys argue over tit for tat fiscal placement. Obama is a big spender and is carrying out with wreckless abandon, the piss pour policies of Bush jr.

Obama is a shitty fiscal manager all the same and by the time he's done, he will go down as the biggest spender in presidential history. Whether its 4 trillion or 5 trillion he gets the blame for right now. He gets the blame. There is no dodging that,

 

[M14 Shooter]

And the facts tell us that had it not been for the Bush tax cuts, we wouldn't have such a large deficit.

1: This is only true if you can show that the tax cuts did not increase growth, and thus, revenue. It is entirely possible that, absent these cuts, revenue would have been even lower.
2: You will recall that The Obama forced the Dems to extend the Bush-eta "tax cuts for the rich" in 2010 and so any FY2011/2012 (and later, if they are extended again) shortfall in revenue due to these tax cuts are directly attributable to the Obama, not GWB.

I won't deny #2;

however, I do not believe the Bush tax cuts did much to stimulate the economy.

You can not belive that all you want - for your statement to be true, you need to bring more than your beliefs.

 

[SniperFire]

The National Debt on the first day of the first Obama fiscal year-11,920,519,164,319.42
The National Debt today-15,667,467,925,869.05
Someone's math is a little off?
Not to discount the fact that after Obama leaves office that he will go down as the biggest and fastest spender of all presidents in the history of the US, but someone is exaggerating. But then CNS was used as a reference. During the first 9 months that CNS included, the US was operating under the Bush fical year's budget.

That's why they say that "there's lies, damned lies, and statistics".

Pelosi and Reid didn't let Bush anywhere near the '09 budget, which they worked up with President Elect Obama, passed in their de facto Super Majority Congress, and the massive boondoggle bill was signed by Odumber in March of '09.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Actually no. Bushes last budget had a deficit of 1.5 trillion while Obama's deficit in 2011 was 1.4 trillions

GWBs last budget was FY2008. $458.6B
The Obama signed FY2009. $1413.6B

ROTFL are you really so stupid that you do not know about fiscal years?
GWB signed and passed the 2008 fiscal year budget in actual date wise started in 2009.

The 'stupid' here is readily apparent.
FY2008 started in October 2007.
FY2009 started in October 2008, the budget for which was signed by The Obama in March 2009.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The National Debt on the first day of the first Obama fiscal year-11,920,519,164,319.42
The National Debt today-15,667,467,925,869.05
Someone's math is a little off?

Nope. Obama took office 1-20-2009. The clock starts there.

Wrong!

The fact that the FY startd before The Obama took offfice has no bearing whatesoever on how much the debt has grown since The Obama took office - never mind the fact that The Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March 2009.

 

[Full-Auto]

The last guy ran up the credit card.

If you weren't a complete imbecile you would know that.

The current guy has run up more on that crefit card in less than half the time.
Anyone who criticizes Bush for the debt accumulated while he was in office and isnt a partisan bigot will criticize The Obama that much more so.

That is false.

You simply must lick those boots..........

 

[kiwiman127]

Nope. Obama took office 1-20-2009. The clock starts there.

Wrong!

The fact that the FY startd before The Obama took offfice has no bearing whatesoever on how much the debt has grown since The Obama took office - never mind the fact that The Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March 2009.

Don't let the facts get in your way. Obama's first fiscal year started on October 1st, it's the law.

 

[SniperFire]

Wrong!

The fact that the FY startd before The Obama took offfice has no bearing whatesoever on how much the debt has grown since The Obama took office - never mind the fact that The Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March 2009.

Don't let the facts get in your way. Obama's first fiscal year started on October 1st, it's the law.

Your partisan hackery is showing., Mr. 'No Labels.'


LOL

 

[M14 Shooter]

Wrong!

The fact that the FY startd before The Obama took offfice has no bearing whatesoever on how much the debt has grown since The Obama took office - never mind the fact that The Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March 2009.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

Irony so thick you need to hire a continental engineer to cut it.

Obama's first fiscal year started on October 1st, it's the law.

Why do you refuse to uderstand that Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March 2009?
This means He is on the hook for all of the FY2009 spending and all of the FY2009 deficit.

 

[SniperFire]

The fact that the FY startd before The Obama took offfice has no bearing whatesoever on how much the debt has grown since The Obama took office - never mind the fact that The Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March 2009.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

Irony so thick you need to hire a continental engineer to cut it.

Obama's first fiscal year started on October 1st, it's the law.

Why do you refuse to uderstand that Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March 2009?
This means He is on the hook for all of the FY2009 spending and all of the FY2009 deficit.

He just can't bring himself to admit that Pelosi-Reid-Obama wrote the 2009 budget, and they could have certainly balanced if it that was their intention.

 

[starcraftzzz]

The National Debt on the first day of the first Obama fiscal year-11,920,519,164,319.42
The National Debt today-15,667,467,925,869.05
Someone's math is a little off?

Nope. Obama took office 1-20-2009. The clock starts there.

I see so according to u Obama should be blamed for a budget deficit created in 2008 before he became president. Perhaps you are also such a partisan hack that you blame him for the Iraq war as well

 

[M14 Shooter]

The National Debt on the first day of the first Obama fiscal year-11,920,519,164,319.42
The National Debt today-15,667,467,925,869.05
Someone's math is a little off?

Nope. Obama took office 1-20-2009. The clock starts there.

I see so according to u Obama should be blamed for a budget deficit created in 2008 before he became president. Perhaps you are also such a partisan hack that you blame him for the Iraq war as well

Why do you refuse to uderstand that Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March 2009?
This means He is on the hook for all of the FY2009 spending and all of the FY2009 deficit.

 

[starcraftzzz]

GWBs last budget was FY2008. $458.6B
The Obama signed FY2009. $1413.6B

ROTFL are you really so stupid that you do not know about fiscal years?
GWB signed and passed the 2008 fiscal year budget in actual date wise started in 2009.

The 'stupid' here is readily apparent.
FY2008 started in October 2007.
FY2009 started in October 2008, the budget for which was signed by The Obama in March 2009.

Are you stupid? According to you Obama was president in 2008. Care to try again?

 

[starcraftzzz]

Nope. Obama took office 1-20-2009. The clock starts there.

I see so according to u Obama should be blamed for a budget deficit created in 2008 before he became president. Perhaps you are also such a partisan hack that you blame him for the Iraq war as well

Why do you refuse to uderstand that Obama signed the FY2009 budget in March 2009?
This means He is on the hook for all of the FY2009 spending and all of the FY2009 deficit.

Because the fiscal year of 2009 started after 2009.
Bushes last fiscal year budger was 1.5trillon, Obamas 1.4trillinon. I realize that you are to stupid to understand and math and budgets.