Obama did good killing NASA Manned space flight

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    No matter how hard Obama tries to destroy everything good about this country, with God's help, we find a way to make it better.

    I was livid when he turned NASA into a Global Warming Advocacy group, Muslim outreach center and killed the Manned Space program in the process. GSA continues on to Vegas, Department of Education continues to breed idiots, but a source of American pride and innovation gets cancelled.

    But, as happens with Free Enterprise, talented entrepreneurs have rushed in to fill the void.

    They are building rockets capable of suborbital flight at 1/5 (20%) (not a typo) of the NASA cost.

    They have hundreds of wealthy people lined up to take a flight into space, that's how Free Enterprise works and works best. They will continue collapsing the costs until we can finally launch our Liberals into space for the cost of a Venti Caramel Macchiato.

    Welcome | Virgin Galactic

    In a related note, 9 full months after the last space shuttle launch, only now is NASA firing 9% of the work force associated with that effort.
     
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    Well minus the political aspects of the post here, there has been somewhat if a boom in the private space industry as of late. Space X in fact is set at the end of this month is set to become the first "private" company to launch a spacecraft to the International Space Station. The Space X Dragon / Falcon 9 will resupply the station and in 2014 fly it's first manned mission. Space X stated by the founder of PayPal has a full launch manifest now for both NASA and several international customers and a bright future. Other companies are thriving as well, ULA, or United Launch Alliance which perhaps is the busiest partner with NASA in terms of unmanned missions , with its fleet of Atlas, and Delta rockets, will also launch its first manned mission around 2014 in partnership with NASA. There are still other companies, Blue Origin, another private company that was set up by the founder of Amazon.com, it is a Texas based company that plans to use its New Shepard spacecraft for sub-orbital commercial flights. Then still another there is Virgin Galactic, which already has over 50,000 customers signed up for its space flights and is the winner of the Ansari X prize for being the first private company to fly into space and safely return and this was done several years ago.

    Manned Space Flight for this nation is not going anywhere it is set to enter a new phase , one where you will see a whole host of different types of spacecraft carrying both Govt. and private entities into space. NASA had for years flown the shuttle and lacked the vision to create a follow-on system of a long term vision for space flight. In fact they flew the shuttle for some 27 years without ever developing a follow on spacecraft and it left this nation in a postion with a multi billion dollar investment into the International Space Station with no way to get there, unless we rent rides on Soyuz which we now do, until companies like Space X and ULA come online. So in short due to mismanagment and a lack of vision on the part of NASA manned space flight came to where we are now. However, that does not mean manned space flight is going anywhere, and is at this time about to do quite well.
     
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    I love Virgin Galactic, and all it stands for and will accomplish.

    HOWEVER, it has nothing to do with manned space flight in the NASA sense, as it is sub-orbital only.

    Private enterprise has been planning to try and work with/for NASA in regards to ISS supply/personnel transport, for years... ever since Bush decided to begin plans to retire the aging shuttle fleet, and is almost there. Armadillo, Space X, and many other are stepping in to fill the void, and I am all for that.
     
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    I am sad that the shuttle program came to an end too. When did humans stop exploring? And we were a leader in this area. Now we are depending on Russia to get a trip to the ISS. I think we should have done this ourselves. Also, what is sad, is how many that don't appreciate this great country of ours....
     
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    This is very possibly one of the WORST aspects of this administration for me. I cannot believe, for the very first time in my life, that the United States of America is not actively pursuing manned space flight. The fact that there are private companies who are willing to do it, just barely makes up for the disappointment and anger.

    Barry and his cronies have placed this nation IN DANGER. Like the liberals that they are, they are hell bent on cutting and systematically dismantling the defense of this nation and it's manned space flight program as well.

    Talk about a legacy... corruption, cronyism, and criminal neglect...
     
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    We can only hope that the private sector is able to replace NASA then for space travel. I tell you it will be a freakishly wild day the first private venture lands safely on the moon and returns.
     
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    SpaceX has been getting ready for its first mission to the international space station for months now. SpaceX is going to be the first private spacecraft to dock with the ISS after receiving the green light from NASA for a scheduled launch on April 30. The flight readiness review was approved at the Johnson Space Center this week.
    SpaceX gets the green light for mission to ISS - SlashGear

    Florida Girl, we are doing it ourselves, NASA in this case is more in the flight management roll and even that is done more by the "private" company than NASA. NASA's primary roll is overall management., which it should be. Honestly NASA should never be in the business of building, spacecraft, or the design side of it. While the in between time is a hard to take because at the moment we have no manned space flight capability, however I think the people at Virgin Galactic might argue that one with you, the blame for that lay in NASA's poor management over the years and lack of a long term vision for space flight. Take heart though, at least in my humble opinion in the coming years you will see a number of exciting things happen in Manned Space flight with a small step at the end of this month.

    As for Virgin Galactic, of course it's not a NASA program and thats wonderful in my humble opinion it is a complete private program which will eventually not only carry people, but also offer cargo services to space in the future. While they are sub-orbital, they do have a memo if understanding with NASA for future and will eventually be a boom to the N.M. economy.
     
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    I was VERY young during Apollo, and I barely remember the Apollo/Soyuz missions. I sincerely hope to see man on the moon again before I die.
     
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    I was unaware that VG had intentions on competing in anything other than space tourism. I didn't see anything about these aspiration on their website. Did I miss something good?
     
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    The Apollo 13 mission is a very inspirational story about what we can do despite huge problems...The movie is a favorite also...:)
     

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