The 2020 Election: Is Common Sense Making a Comeback?

[Marion Morrison]

Is the 2020 election this November, or next November?

 

[Foxfyre]

Robert Curry raised an interesting question in this short essay this week.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/07/03/is-common-sense-making-a-comeback/

He observed the glaring lack of common sense in the Democrat debates with Julian Castro advocating abortion rights for transgender women taking the top prize for the proposal demonstrating the least common sense. But as he sadly but accurately pointed out, whoever wins the Democrat nomination is unlikely to do so by promoting a common sense agenda, goals, objectives etc. (Personal note: common sense Democrats are being booed off stages almost everywhere.)

That is a sad commentary on our current political environment though probably many Democrats will not agree with it. But for conservatives, Curry is just stating the obvious and preaching to the choir.

The more interesting point he raised is that President Trump was/is clearly the common sense candidate. I concur with that. He isn't partisan. He is no ideologue. He can't be described as a conservative, libertarian, or right winger. But his vision, his goals, his objectives are all solidly rooted in common sense. What the problem actually is. What needs to happen to solve it.

But the question is, did America elect him mostly because he offered common sense that we were hungry for? Or did people vote mostly against what they saw as blatant obviousness of Clinton dishonesty and corruption mixed with lack of vision and promoting an unacceptable status quo?

If the vote was more against Hillary than for Trump, what will that bode for the 2020 election? Is there sufficient appreciation for what the President has accomplished to earn him sufficient votes to win next year? Or has America lost it to the point that they will vote for irrationality instead of common sense?

So where are you at this point?

Will you vote for President Trump because he is the Republican? Or because he is the common sense candidate? Or will you vote against him because he is Donald J. Trump? Or will you vote against him because he is on the Republican ticket? Or will you vote for any Democrat to prevent a Republican win? Or will you vote for somebody else for reasons not enumerated here?

Please explain your vote.

(Multiple choice on the poll and you can change your vote if you change your mind.)

Common sense is logic

The higher the common sense ability ( logic ability ) the better

Democrats are supported by the lowest logic ability ( common sense) people always falls into destruction

To save the nation trump must bring a high logic ability test for voters

I agree that claiming taxing the rich more would pay for Medicare for all for 330 million people plus all the other freebies the Democrats are promising shows an amazing lack of common sense not to mention a really serious math deficiency.

I agree that thinking we can open the borders and accept all the world's poor who want to come here without becoming like the miserable places they came here from shows an incredible lack of common sense.

And we don't even have to mention giving abortion, pap smears, and mammogram coverage to males who have transgendered to females. (I wonder if they are as adament about giving prostate exams to females who have transgendered to male?)

President Trump is no great orator and he is sometimes rude, crude, even cringeworthy. And his personal life is as criticizable at least as much as any other successful candidate's have been.

But he earned the prize for the most relevant and common sense among the 17 Republicans running and won the Presidency in 2016 based on his common sense approach to actually doing something to fix the problems we had and improve things for pretty much everybody. At least everybody other than the permanent political class in both parties who have tried to undercut and destroy him from the beginning.

He is still promoting common sense solutions to maintain the good things that are happening and keep us moving forward to fix the problems we have.

He deserves a second term.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Common sense, like "Truth", is in the eye of the beholder.
Since we no longer communicate, we can all just make up our definitions as we go and claim the high ground.

What a stupendously ignorant response. Truth is "true" whether or not ANYONE believes it. You are certainly the product of an education that reeks of " moral equivalence".

What is your definition of "Truth"?

Get as specific as you would like.
.

LOL, you poor kid.

Let's start here lil guy, surely we can agree on this "definition" of the word, right?

"
truth
[tro͞oTH]
veracity · truthfulness · verity · sincerity · candor · honesty · genuineness · gospel · gospel truth · accuracy · correctness · rightness · validity · factualness · factuality ·
authenticity · dinkum oil
antonyms:
dishonesty · falsity

• 
  
  
  • (the truth)
    that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
    "tell me the truth" ·
    the fact of the matter · what actually/really happened · the case · so · gospel · gospel truth · God's truth · the honest truth · fact(s) · reality · real life · actuality
    antonyms:
    lies · fiction
  • a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
    "the emergence of scientific truths"

You dumb hack, you are confusing truth with fact, so apparently you don't even know how to use the word properly. Religious people believe the deities they worship are 'truth'. Bigots believe the color of one's skin makes them a superior human as being 'truth'. People who are against vaccination believe they hold the 'truth'. In reality, Truth is mostly subjective, and only objective when directly based on factual information.

 

[Foxfyre]

Common sense, like "Truth", is in the eye of the beholder.
Since we no longer communicate, we can all just make up our definitions as we go and claim the high ground.

What a stupendously ignorant response. Truth is "true" whether or not ANYONE believes it. You are certainly the product of an education that reeks of " moral equivalence".

What is your definition of "Truth"?

Get as specific as you would like.
.

LOL, you poor kid.

Let's start here lil guy, surely we can agree on this "definition" of the word, right?

"
truth
[tro͞oTH]
veracity · truthfulness · verity · sincerity · candor · honesty · genuineness · gospel · gospel truth · accuracy · correctness · rightness · validity · factualness · factuality ·
authenticity · dinkum oil
antonyms:
dishonesty · falsity

• 
  
  
  • (the truth)
    that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
    "tell me the truth" ·
    the fact of the matter · what actually/really happened · the case · so · gospel · gospel truth · God's truth · the honest truth · fact(s) · reality · real life · actuality
    antonyms:
    lies · fiction
  • a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
    "the emergence of scientific truths"

You dumb hack, you are confusing truth with fact, so apparently you don't even know how to use the word properly. Religious people believe the deities they worship are 'truth'. Bigots believe the color of one's skin makes them a superior human as being 'truth'. People who are against vaccination believe they hold the 'truth'. In reality, Truth is mostly subjective, and only objective when directly based on factual information.

Truth itself is never subjective. Truth is absolute. What is subjective is what we sometimes consider to be the truth.

Example: Is a brain fart or simple typo or misspeak or remembering a fact wrong a lie? To promote such as truth when it isn't would be a lie. But is inadvertently saying it wrote or remembering it wrong a lie? Some people insist that a misspeak or hyperbole or getting a fact wrong is a blatant lie and makes of a person a liar. (They do that to to the President all the time, but is that consistent? Would they consider it an intentional lie if somebody they support did the same? Or would they make allowances?)

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Truth is absolute.

Nope.

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

...And that's why. You even contradicted your first comment. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Mac1958]

Common sense, like "Truth", is in the eye of the beholder.
Since we no longer communicate, we can all just make up our definitions as we go and claim the high ground.

What a stupendously ignorant response. Truth is "true" whether or not ANYONE believes it. You are certainly the product of an education that reeks of " moral equivalence".

What is your definition of "Truth"?

Get as specific as you would like.
.

LOL, you poor kid.

Let's start here lil guy, surely we can agree on this "definition" of the word, right?

"
truth
[tro͞oTH]
veracity · truthfulness · verity · sincerity · candor · honesty · genuineness · gospel · gospel truth · accuracy · correctness · rightness · validity · factualness · factuality ·
authenticity · dinkum oil
antonyms:
dishonesty · falsity

• 
  
  
  • (the truth)
    that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
    "tell me the truth" ·
    the fact of the matter · what actually/really happened · the case · so · gospel · gospel truth · God's truth · the honest truth · fact(s) · reality · real life · actuality
    antonyms:
    lies · fiction
  • a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
    "the emergence of scientific truths"

You dumb hack, you are confusing truth with fact, so apparently you don't even know how to use the word properly. Religious people believe the deities they worship are 'truth'. Bigots believe the color of one's skin makes them a superior human as being 'truth'. People who are against vaccination believe they hold the 'truth'. In reality, Truth is mostly subjective, and only objective when directly based on factual information.

The best he could do was a dictionary copy & paste.

And then he went full drama queen when I expressed disappointment.
.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Common sense, like "Truth", is in the eye of the beholder.
Since we no longer communicate, we can all just make up our definitions as we go and claim the high ground.

What a stupendously ignorant response. Truth is "true" whether or not ANYONE believes it. You are certainly the product of an education that reeks of " moral equivalence".

What is your definition of "Truth"?

Get as specific as you would like.
.

LOL, you poor kid.

Let's start here lil guy, surely we can agree on this "definition" of the word, right?

"
truth
[tro͞oTH]
veracity · truthfulness · verity · sincerity · candor · honesty · genuineness · gospel · gospel truth · accuracy · correctness · rightness · validity · factualness · factuality ·
authenticity · dinkum oil
antonyms:
dishonesty · falsity

• 
  
  
  • (the truth)
    that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
    "tell me the truth" ·
    the fact of the matter · what actually/really happened · the case · so · gospel · gospel truth · God's truth · the honest truth · fact(s) · reality · real life · actuality
    antonyms:
    lies · fiction
  • a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
    "the emergence of scientific truths"

You dumb hack, you are confusing truth with fact, so apparently you don't even know how to use the word properly. Religious people believe the deities they worship are 'truth'. Bigots believe the color of one's skin makes them a superior human as being 'truth'. People who are against vaccination believe they hold the 'truth'. In reality, Truth is mostly subjective, and only objective when directly based on factual information.

Truth itself is never subjective. Truth is absolute. What is subjective is what we sometimes consider to be the truth.

Example: Is a brain fart or simple typo or misspeak or remembering a fact wrong a lie? To promote such as truth when it isn't would be a lie. But is inadvertently saying it wrote or remembering it wrong a lie? Some people insist that a misspeak or hyperbole or getting a fact wrong is a blatant lie and makes of a person a liar. (They do that to to the President all the time, but is that consistent? Would they consider it an intentional lie if somebody they support did the same? Or would they make allowances?)

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

Truth is absolute

Only the highest logic ability can know

Common sense and logic are the same

The higher that ability the better

The highest ability of that are prophets and at that level truth becomes absolute

Trump has the highest logic ability supporters

 

[Mac1958]

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Common sense, like "Truth", is in the eye of the beholder.
Since we no longer communicate, we can all just make up our definitions as we go and claim the high ground.

What a stupendously ignorant response. Truth is "true" whether or not ANYONE believes it. You are certainly the product of an education that reeks of " moral equivalence".

What is your definition of "Truth"?

Get as specific as you would like.
.

LOL, you poor kid.

Let's start here lil guy, surely we can agree on this "definition" of the word, right?

"
truth
[tro͞oTH]
veracity · truthfulness · verity · sincerity · candor · honesty · genuineness · gospel · gospel truth · accuracy · correctness · rightness · validity · factualness · factuality ·
authenticity · dinkum oil
antonyms:
dishonesty · falsity

• 
  
  
  • (the truth)
    that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
    "tell me the truth" ·
    the fact of the matter · what actually/really happened · the case · so · gospel · gospel truth · God's truth · the honest truth · fact(s) · reality · real life · actuality
    antonyms:
    lies · fiction
  • a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
    "the emergence of scientific truths"

You dumb hack, you are confusing truth with fact, so apparently you don't even know how to use the word properly. Religious people believe the deities they worship are 'truth'. Bigots believe the color of one's skin makes them a superior human as being 'truth'. People who are against vaccination believe they hold the 'truth'. In reality, Truth is mostly subjective, and only objective when directly based on factual information.

The best he could do was a dictionary copy & paste.

And then he went full drama queen when I expressed disappointment.
.

Sad!

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

What a stupendously ignorant response. Truth is "true" whether or not ANYONE believes it. You are certainly the product of an education that reeks of " moral equivalence".

What is your definition of "Truth"?

Get as specific as you would like.
.

LOL, you poor kid.

Let's start here lil guy, surely we can agree on this "definition" of the word, right?

"
truth
[tro͞oTH]
veracity · truthfulness · verity · sincerity · candor · honesty · genuineness · gospel · gospel truth · accuracy · correctness · rightness · validity · factualness · factuality ·
authenticity · dinkum oil
antonyms:
dishonesty · falsity

• 
  
  
  • (the truth)
    that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
    "tell me the truth" ·
    the fact of the matter · what actually/really happened · the case · so · gospel · gospel truth · God's truth · the honest truth · fact(s) · reality · real life · actuality
    antonyms:
    lies · fiction
  • a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
    "the emergence of scientific truths"

You dumb hack, you are confusing truth with fact, so apparently you don't even know how to use the word properly. Religious people believe the deities they worship are 'truth'. Bigots believe the color of one's skin makes them a superior human as being 'truth'. People who are against vaccination believe they hold the 'truth'. In reality, Truth is mostly subjective, and only objective when directly based on factual information.

Truth itself is never subjective. Truth is absolute. What is subjective is what we sometimes consider to be the truth.

Example: Is a brain fart or simple typo or misspeak or remembering a fact wrong a lie? To promote such as truth when it isn't would be a lie. But is inadvertently saying it wrote or remembering it wrong a lie? Some people insist that a misspeak or hyperbole or getting a fact wrong is a blatant lie and makes of a person a liar. (They do that to to the President all the time, but is that consistent? Would they consider it an intentional lie if somebody they support did the same? Or would they make allowances?)

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

Truth is absolute

Only the highest logic ability can know

Common sense and logic are the same

The higher that ability the better

The highest ability of that are prophets and at that level truth becomes absolute

Trump has the highest logic ability supporters

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

 

[Foxfyre]

Truth is absolute.

Nope.

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

...And that's why. You even contradicted your first comment. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

Well dear I can't do anything about the cognizantly challenged any more than I can specify what anybody will regard and/or promote as truth and/or whether that anybody will do so honestly or dishonestly.

 

[Foxfyre]

What a stupendously ignorant response. Truth is "true" whether or not ANYONE believes it. You are certainly the product of an education that reeks of " moral equivalence".

What is your definition of "Truth"?

Get as specific as you would like.
.

LOL, you poor kid.

Let's start here lil guy, surely we can agree on this "definition" of the word, right?

"
truth
[tro͞oTH]
veracity · truthfulness · verity · sincerity · candor · honesty · genuineness · gospel · gospel truth · accuracy · correctness · rightness · validity · factualness · factuality ·
authenticity · dinkum oil
antonyms:
dishonesty · falsity

• 
  
  
  • (the truth)
    that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
    "tell me the truth" ·
    the fact of the matter · what actually/really happened · the case · so · gospel · gospel truth · God's truth · the honest truth · fact(s) · reality · real life · actuality
    antonyms:
    lies · fiction
  • a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
    "the emergence of scientific truths"

You dumb hack, you are confusing truth with fact, so apparently you don't even know how to use the word properly. Religious people believe the deities they worship are 'truth'. Bigots believe the color of one's skin makes them a superior human as being 'truth'. People who are against vaccination believe they hold the 'truth'. In reality, Truth is mostly subjective, and only objective when directly based on factual information.

Truth itself is never subjective. Truth is absolute. What is subjective is what we sometimes consider to be the truth.

Example: Is a brain fart or simple typo or misspeak or remembering a fact wrong a lie? To promote such as truth when it isn't would be a lie. But is inadvertently saying it wrote or remembering it wrong a lie? Some people insist that a misspeak or hyperbole or getting a fact wrong is a blatant lie and makes of a person a liar. (They do that to to the President all the time, but is that consistent? Would they consider it an intentional lie if somebody they support did the same? Or would they make allowances?)

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

Truth is absolute

Only the highest logic ability can know

Common sense and logic are the same

The higher that ability the better

The highest ability of that are prophets and at that level truth becomes absolute

Trump has the highest logic ability supporters

Logic and reason can betray us, however, and cause to believe what appears to be true when in fact it is not.

But I'll agree that logic and reason are indispensable when it comes to separating truth from fiction.

And I will agree that Trump supporters do utilize logic and reason to a high degree when it comes to assessing the Trump presidency. They pretty much eskew personal distaste, biases, prejudices as well as subjective criteria in evaluating the President's job performance and look to the actual results being produced.

And that is why they will be voting for him again in 2020.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Truth is absolute.

Nope.

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

...And that's why. You even contradicted your first comment. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

Well dear I can't do anything about the cognizantly challenged any more than I can specify what anybody will regard and/or promote as truth and/or whether that anybody will do so honestly or dishonestly.

Well, that's because truth is not absolute. BTW the word is 'cognitively'. Thanks for playing.

 

[Foxfyre]

Truth is absolute.

Nope.

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

...And that's why. You even contradicted your first comment. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

Well dear I can't do anything about the cognizantly challenged any more than I can specify what anybody will regard and/or promote as truth and/or whether that anybody will do so honestly or dishonestly.

Well, that's because truth is not absolute. BTW the word is 'cognitively'. Thanks for playing.

cog·ni·zant
ADJECTIVE

1. having knowledge or being aware of.

cog·ni·tion
NOUN

1. the mental action or process of acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experience, and the senses.

 

[FA_Q2]

Truth is absolute.

Nope.

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

...And that's why. You even contradicted your first comment. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

Well dear I can't do anything about the cognizantly challenged any more than I can specify what anybody will regard and/or promote as truth and/or whether that anybody will do so honestly or dishonestly.

Well, that's because truth is not absolute. BTW the word is 'cognitively'. Thanks for playing.

OR, as was stated in fox's first post, some people mistake things that are not truth as truth very often.

Truth is absolute - almost everything that we think is truth is actually NOT truth but rather our subjective opinions.

I think this comes down to one thinking that there is an absolute truth to things (such as atoms are or are not divisible) vs thinking that the very essence of everything is utterly subjective.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

What is your definition of "Truth"?

Get as specific as you would like.
.

LOL, you poor kid.

Let's start here lil guy, surely we can agree on this "definition" of the word, right?

"
truth
[tro͞oTH]
veracity · truthfulness · verity · sincerity · candor · honesty · genuineness · gospel · gospel truth · accuracy · correctness · rightness · validity · factualness · factuality ·
authenticity · dinkum oil
antonyms:
dishonesty · falsity

• 
  
  
  • (the truth)
    that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
    "tell me the truth" ·
    the fact of the matter · what actually/really happened · the case · so · gospel · gospel truth · God's truth · the honest truth · fact(s) · reality · real life · actuality
    antonyms:
    lies · fiction
  • a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
    "the emergence of scientific truths"

You dumb hack, you are confusing truth with fact, so apparently you don't even know how to use the word properly. Religious people believe the deities they worship are 'truth'. Bigots believe the color of one's skin makes them a superior human as being 'truth'. People who are against vaccination believe they hold the 'truth'. In reality, Truth is mostly subjective, and only objective when directly based on factual information.

Truth itself is never subjective. Truth is absolute. What is subjective is what we sometimes consider to be the truth.

Example: Is a brain fart or simple typo or misspeak or remembering a fact wrong a lie? To promote such as truth when it isn't would be a lie. But is inadvertently saying it wrote or remembering it wrong a lie? Some people insist that a misspeak or hyperbole or getting a fact wrong is a blatant lie and makes of a person a liar. (They do that to to the President all the time, but is that consistent? Would they consider it an intentional lie if somebody they support did the same? Or would they make allowances?)

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

Truth is absolute

Only the highest logic ability can know

Common sense and logic are the same

The higher that ability the better

The highest ability of that are prophets and at that level truth becomes absolute

Trump has the highest logic ability supporters

Logic and reason can betray us, however, and cause to believe what appears to be true when in fact it is not.

But I'll agree that logic and reason are indispensable when it comes to separating truth from fiction.

And I will agree that Trump supporters do utilize logic and reason to a high degree when it comes to assessing the Trump presidency. They pretty much eskew personal distaste, biases, prejudices as well as subjective criteria in evaluating the President's job performance and look to the actual results being produced.

And that is why they will be voting for him again in 2020.

The highest logic ability cannot betrayed ..... That ability is foolproof and only that ability knows what proves what

That ability knows what is a fact

Only if the data is wrong or not enough can the highest logic ability can be wrong

With all the data the highest logic ability is foolproof and always the most correct

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Truth is absolute.

Nope.

In such cases truth is not an absolute but exists purely in the eye of the beholder.

...And that's why. You even contradicted your first comment. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

Well dear I can't do anything about the cognizantly challenged any more than I can specify what anybody will regard and/or promote as truth and/or whether that anybody will do so honestly or dishonestly.

Well, that's because truth is not absolute. BTW the word is 'cognitively'. Thanks for playing.

OR, as was stated in fox's first post, some people mistake things that are not truth as truth very often.

Truth is absolute - almost everything that we think is truth is actually NOT truth but rather our subjective opinions.

I think this comes down to one thinking that there is an absolute truth to things (such as atoms are or are not divisible) vs thinking that the very essence of everything is utterly subjective.

Nothing Is subjective full truth is always out there waiting to be seen by the highest logic ability

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Logic ability is like eyesight


Poor eyesight cannot see the correct view that good eye sight can


Same with logic

Poor logic cannot see what high logic can see

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Trump will bring the greatest of all progress for a nation with a high logic ability test for voting

 

[GreenAndBlue]

If something betrays us. It's because of not the highest logic ability

The highest logic ability cannot be betrayed !!