The 2 sides of Affirmative Action

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    Pragmatically speaking, I really don't give a crap about AA. I haven't suffered anything as a result of it and I don't imagine many really have. And even for the odd 'victim' story, big deal. You don't get into every school, you don't get every job, you don't win every contract. Chances are you'll get the next one. That's life.

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    I find the concept of affirmative action philosophically objectionable for the simple reason that it forces race into the equation. And that seems like the exact opposite thing you'd want to do if eliminating racism is the goal.
     
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    Affirmative action is not much of an impact on anyone in recent years.
    But many love to have it around to whine about.
     
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    how do you know that AA doesn't have much impact? AA is not studied, or at least the studies are not released, except for the bean counting of who is hired or accepted. even universities do not know if AA works or not and they have all the necessary data available but refuse to let researchers to access it. (eg Sander et al)
     
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    I was victimized by AA back in the late 70s and early 80s.

    It was a well intended law that was very badly thought out, and one that played out even worse in real life

    Mostly the people who benefitted from it were upper middle class white women.

    But to the extent that it broke the back of the caste system that we found in some public and private career paths, I still think it had some positive benefits for society, even if I personally got screwed because of it.
     
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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you managed to overcome this setback and have done alright for yourself.
     
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    Affirmative Action is an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the work place. I have no problem with that executive order.
     
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    I have not seen much Afirmative Action in the last 20 years. It used to mean quotas, explaining why you did not hire a woman or minority and everything had a number.

    Now it is more expanding oportunities to minority areas and making sure that jobs are fully advertised.
     
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    What's wrong with a program that discriminates as a way to level the discrimination playing field?
     
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    What alternative would you suggest?
     

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