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what a bunch of bull...
you didn't want health care reform... don't bitch. she wouldn't have ANYTHING but the garbage insurance her job gives her if it were up to you.
what? if shes full time student she would be on his work coverage, which he claims is really good, instead, the health care reform let his ins company weasel out of covering his daugther
If wingnuts didn't lie, they'd have nothing to say.
Those who benefit from our current system oppose any form of reform; they benefit from the current system....
"Somewhere between the Halloween candy and the Thansgiving turkey, many workers have something a lot less tasty to digest: Its that fat packet of insurance information from their HR department.
This is the time of year when employees often have to make choices about their healthcare coverage for the following year. Its called open enrollment season, but this year, it may feel more like open season on your wallet. With government-mandated changes that broaden health care coverage, the policies have gotten better (they typically will pay 100 percent of preventive care, for example), but theyve gotten more expensive, too. The National Business Group on Health, a group representing large employers, estimates that premiums for company-paid plans will rise about 8.9 percent next year.
And thats just the costs you can see. There are plenty of hidden costs and other traps in those plans too. Heres how to avoid them. Hint: Youll have to read that plan booklet, even if it is headache producing."
That is impossible. Its all about profits, and getting rid of the luggage.
The profit margin for health insurers is 3-4%.
Is that excessive?
How much profit in the health care industry overall? Pharma, hospitals, medical device manufacturers, etc?
It is mainly not the insurance companies but the health care industry driving cost increases.
We pay $30 for a pill here that sells for $5 in another country and many of the pills are not even made here.
We import a large percentage of the ingredients or finished pharma products from China and india.
ahh that old what the market will bear. Well the market is being fleeced bare.
Welcome to serfdom, baby. Government tells you what health care you can have.
So, "Obamacare" is bad and what existed before was good?
What is the business of Insurance?
Think real hard Revere...what is their business?
Is it to provide healthcare? Or is it to make a profit.
Did abuses exist before healthcare reform was attempted?
Did the Republicans take on reform when they controlled the Congress?
Did Bush put reform of the healthcare system on his agenda?
Is there any effort by the R's to refine the healthcare system, or are we to expect a return to double digit price increases and the abuses which existed before "Obamacare".
It is not insurance that is going to bury this country in a mountain of debt that people cannot handle but rather healthcare costs themselves.
The profit margin for health insurers is 3-4%.
Is that excessive?
How much profit in the health care industry overall? Pharma, hospitals, medical device manufacturers, etc?
It is mainly not the insurance companies but the health care industry driving cost increases.
We pay $30 for a pill here that sells for $5 in another country and many of the pills are not even made here.
We import a large percentage of the ingredients or finished pharma products from China and india.
ahh that old what the market will bear. Well the market is being fleeced bare.
And here we go again with not understanding the hidden costs associated with feel good legislation. Why do you think that drug costs 30 bucks here and 5 over there? What do you think has driven the price up? The fact of the matter is that WE are subsidizing the worlds drug development because we have a market here that is willing to pay for it. PROFIT, that dirty word you hate so much, DRIVES innovation. Those cures that are developed are not cheap. Companies must make billion dollar investments to develop and test those drugs and they only do so because WE have a place to sell it. Take that place away and see innovation come to a crawl. You have no concept of the overall impact of what you are advocating. It may well seem like a good idea NOW but in the end it will cost our future. That is a problem that deserves FAR more focus than 'I want it NOW and I want it CHEAP.'
"One of the most problematic issues with Part D, Severance said, is the fact that legislators wrote into the rules that Medicare cannot negotiate with drug companies for lower prices. Who ever heard of such a thing? he said, noting that rule flies in the face of how the federal government negotiates lower prescription prices for the VA."
Welcome to serfdom, baby. Government tells you what health care you can have.
So, "Obamacare" is bad and what existed before was good?
What is the business of Insurance?
Think real hard Revere...what is their business?
Is it to provide healthcare? Or is it to make a profit.
Did abuses exist before healthcare reform was attempted?
Did the Republicans take on reform when they controlled the Congress?
Did Bush put reform of the healthcare system on his agenda?
Is there any effort by the R's to refine the healthcare system, or are we to expect a return to double digit price increases and the abuses which existed before "Obamacare".
Interesting. I would point out that we still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO HEALTH CARE REFORM. This is the scary part on the liberals. They continually push Obama care and how it is going to make these HUGE improvements and use RISING COSTS before Obama care to push their point home and conveniently ignore the fact that Obama care does NOTHING for costs. That is what burns me so damn much.
Is this fraud thread still going? The mythical daughter and the tall tale of a warped mind on the internet.
Is this fraud thread still going? The mythical daughter and the tall tale of a warped mind on the internet.
you mean she cannot decline the insurance coverage by an employer?
I have declined employer insurance before.
Is this fraud thread still going? The mythical daughter and the tall tale of a warped mind on the internet.
I just got my health insurance plan for next year. It says...
Under the new law,children:
1. Do not have to live with the enrolled parent
2. Are covered under the enrolled parents Family enrollment even if they are eligible for or have their own employer-provided health insurance coverage.
Does the right wing ever stop lying about the healthcare plan???
Is this fraud thread still going? The mythical daughter and the tall tale of a warped mind on the internet.
I just got my health insurance plan for next year. It says...
Under the new law,children:
1. Do not have to live with the enrolled parent
2. Are covered under the enrolled parents Family enrollment even if they are eligible for or have their own employer-provided health insurance coverage.
Does the right wing ever stop lying about the healthcare plan???
you mean she cannot decline the insurance coverage by an employer?
I have declined employer insurance before.
Yes she can decline it, but his insurance company has raised its standards to cover kids because of the new law. They are now saying if she has ANY insurance available through her work, No matter how crappy, that they will not allow him to put her on his insurance.
At least that Is what I think he is saying.
Is this fraud thread still going? The mythical daughter and the tall tale of a warped mind on the internet.
I just got my health insurance plan for next year. It says...
Under the new law,children:
1. Do not have to live with the enrolled parent
2. Are covered under the enrolled parents Family enrollment even if they are eligible for or have their own employer-provided health insurance coverage.
Does the right wing ever stop lying about the healthcare plan???
One very important word in this post.
MY
As in "my insurance plan". Your insurance plan is not everyones plan.
I just got my health insurance plan for next year. It says...
Under the new law,children:
1. Do not have to live with the enrolled parent
2. Are covered under the enrolled parents Family enrollment even if they are eligible for or have their own employer-provided health insurance coverage.
Does the right wing ever stop lying about the healthcare plan???
One very important word in this post.
MY
As in "my insurance plan". Your insurance plan is not everyones plan.
Four very important words
Under the new law
It applies to everyone, not just those under my plan. Children under 26 have a choice of staying under their employers plan or going back to their parents plan
Why did you lie when you made up this thread? Is the the only way you have to bash Obamacare to spread lies?
One very important word in this post.
MY
As in "my insurance plan". Your insurance plan is not everyones plan.
Four very important words
Under the new law
It applies to everyone, not just those under my plan. Children under 26 have a choice of staying under their employers plan or going back to their parents plan
Why did you lie when you made up this thread? Is the the only way you have to bash Obamacare to spread lies?
As shown in this thread at least 5 times....not until 2014.
From now till 2014 they can drop someone if other coverage is available.
What I am saying is literally all over the net.
