Thank you China!

[baileyn45]

China shall rise. China doesn't have the history of antisemitism as the United States. China is better for us than the United States where Nazis kill Jews at their synagogues.

So being Jewish is OK in China? Of course you don't want to be Tibetan or Uighur.

 

[Roudy]

Communism was failing China, it only started improving after Nixon's visit when it opens it's doors and started imposing "Capitalism light". The OP should have titled this thread "Thank you US and Western nations for four decades of foolish trade and foreign policy towards China.

Wrong. Communism turned China into a superpower. Libertarian values turned Africa into Medieval Europe.

Perhaps you should provide a link? Communism is a failed ideology that has brought misery, oppression and death, and was thrown into the dustbin of history. Both China and USSR were collapsing under communism, USSR collapsed and changed into a what Russia is today, and China implemented gradual capitalistic changes that ended up with a semi capitalistic system that we have today. Here is some factual history, no charge for educating you:

How China went from communist to capitalist

Between 1959 and 1961, food production plummeted due to crop and industrial shortfalls. A great famine resulted, causing millions of deaths. The loss of privately run sectors was hurting the country tremendously.

In 1978, Deng Xiaoping, a Chinese revolutionary and veteran of the Communist Party, was eager to adopt capitalist methods and reforms in order to stimulate economic growth and restore confidence in the party. He and U.S. President Jimmy Carter signed an historic accord in 1979, reversing decades of China-U.S. tension.

Deng launched several economic reforms that allowed private sectors to start and operate their own businesses once again. He also established four special economic zones along the coast of China with intentions of attracting foreign investments.

Due to the reforms Deng put in place, China has gone from being a country that opposed capitalism to one that embraces property rights, profits and free market competition.

China had famines long before Mao Zedong. They actually stopped shortly after Mao.
List of famines in China - Wikipedia

They had famines before, and after. Point is the strict communism that China and Russia were under were failing systems. Only an uneducated person completely ignorant of history would argue that communism is a positive ideology and form of government for the people, and a good track record.

China in 1960 had a per capita income 1/3rd of Haiti. China chose communism, Haiti chose capitalism by 2016 Haiti had a per capita income 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

You sound a little too young and totally brainwashed. Those of us who have been around remember China 40 years ago as an almost third world nation that managed to turn things around by copying and emulating Western style capitalism.

 

[tigerred59]

China retaliates with tariffs on $75 billion of US goods - CNN

For keeping the pressure on our know nothing President. Of course he will retaliate with counter tariffs which will cost the American people big time. Our President is so dumb and poorly educated, he actually thinks China pays the tariffs he imposes, not the American people.

Stay the course China. He will eventually back down; he always does, and then we will all be winners.

AND HE HAS...OF COURSE HE'LL NEVER ADMIT IT, BUT TRUMP HAD BACKED DOWN AND WILL WITHOUT EVER REALIZING IT, END UP WITH A WORSE DEAL THAN BEFORE. BECAUSE CHINA DON'T NEED US, TRUMP NEEDS CHINA.

 

[EduardBernstein]

Wrong. Communism turned China into a superpower. Libertarian values turned Africa into Medieval Europe.

Perhaps you should provide a link? Communism is a failed ideology that has brought misery, oppression and death, and was thrown into the dustbin of history. Both China and USSR were collapsing under communism, USSR collapsed and changed into a what Russia is today, and China implemented gradual capitalistic changes that ended up with a semi capitalistic system that we have today. Here is some factual history, no charge for educating you:

How China went from communist to capitalist

Between 1959 and 1961, food production plummeted due to crop and industrial shortfalls. A great famine resulted, causing millions of deaths. The loss of privately run sectors was hurting the country tremendously.

In 1978, Deng Xiaoping, a Chinese revolutionary and veteran of the Communist Party, was eager to adopt capitalist methods and reforms in order to stimulate economic growth and restore confidence in the party. He and U.S. President Jimmy Carter signed an historic accord in 1979, reversing decades of China-U.S. tension.

Deng launched several economic reforms that allowed private sectors to start and operate their own businesses once again. He also established four special economic zones along the coast of China with intentions of attracting foreign investments.

Due to the reforms Deng put in place, China has gone from being a country that opposed capitalism to one that embraces property rights, profits and free market competition.

China had famines long before Mao Zedong. They actually stopped shortly after Mao.
List of famines in China - Wikipedia

They had famines before, and after. Point is the strict communism that China and Russia were under were failing systems. Only an uneducated person completely ignorant of history would argue that communism is a positive ideology and form of government for the people, and a good track record.

China in 1960 had a per capita income 1/3rd of Haiti. China chose communism, Haiti chose capitalism by 2016 Haiti had a per capita income 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

You sound a little too young and totally brainwashed. Those of us who have been around remember China 40 years ago as an almost third world nation that managed to turn things around by copying and emulating Western style capitalism.

I'm a retired history professor. China went from the poorest nation on earth to a superpower because of communism.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

So being Jewish is OK in China? Of course you don't want to be Tibetan or Uighur.

You don't really want to be a Jew in China either. Who Are the Kaifeng Jews — and Why Is China ‘Cracking Down’ on Them?

 

[Third Party]

China retaliates with tariffs on $75 billion of US goods - CNN

For keeping the pressure on our know nothing President. Of course he will retaliate with counter tariffs which will cost the American people big time. Our President is so dumb and poorly educated, he actually thinks China pays the tariffs he imposes, not the American people.

Stay the course China. He will eventually back down; he always does, and then we will all be winners.

AND HE HAS...OF COURSE HE'LL NEVER ADMIT IT, BUT TRUMP HAD BACKED DOWN AND WILL WITHOUT EVER REALIZING IT, END UP WITH A WORSE DEAL THAN BEFORE. BECAUSE CHINA DON'T NEED US, TRUMP NEEDS CHINA.

Too Late-China caved! You were saying...

 

[baileyn45]

Perhaps you should provide a link? Communism is a failed ideology that has brought misery, oppression and death, and was thrown into the dustbin of history. Both China and USSR were collapsing under communism, USSR collapsed and changed into a what Russia is today, and China implemented gradual capitalistic changes that ended up with a semi capitalistic system that we have today. Here is some factual history, no charge for educating you:

How China went from communist to capitalist

Between 1959 and 1961, food production plummeted due to crop and industrial shortfalls. A great famine resulted, causing millions of deaths. The loss of privately run sectors was hurting the country tremendously.

In 1978, Deng Xiaoping, a Chinese revolutionary and veteran of the Communist Party, was eager to adopt capitalist methods and reforms in order to stimulate economic growth and restore confidence in the party. He and U.S. President Jimmy Carter signed an historic accord in 1979, reversing decades of China-U.S. tension.

Deng launched several economic reforms that allowed private sectors to start and operate their own businesses once again. He also established four special economic zones along the coast of China with intentions of attracting foreign investments.

Due to the reforms Deng put in place, China has gone from being a country that opposed capitalism to one that embraces property rights, profits and free market competition.

China had famines long before Mao Zedong. They actually stopped shortly after Mao.
List of famines in China - Wikipedia

They had famines before, and after. Point is the strict communism that China and Russia were under were failing systems. Only an uneducated person completely ignorant of history would argue that communism is a positive ideology and form of government for the people, and a good track record.

China in 1960 had a per capita income 1/3rd of Haiti. China chose communism, Haiti chose capitalism by 2016 Haiti had a per capita income 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

You sound a little too young and totally brainwashed. Those of us who have been around remember China 40 years ago as an almost third world nation that managed to turn things around by copying and emulating Western style capitalism.

I'm a retired history professor. China went from the poorest nation on earth to a superpower because of communism.

That's nonsense. China's rise corresponds with their entrance into global markets and adoption of market based reforms.

 

[EduardBernstein]

China had famines long before Mao Zedong. They actually stopped shortly after Mao.
List of famines in China - Wikipedia

They had famines before, and after. Point is the strict communism that China and Russia were under were failing systems. Only an uneducated person completely ignorant of history would argue that communism is a positive ideology and form of government for the people, and a good track record.

China in 1960 had a per capita income 1/3rd of Haiti. China chose communism, Haiti chose capitalism by 2016 Haiti had a per capita income 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

You sound a little too young and totally brainwashed. Those of us who have been around remember China 40 years ago as an almost third world nation that managed to turn things around by copying and emulating Western style capitalism.

I'm a retired history professor. China went from the poorest nation on earth to a superpower because of communism.

That's nonsense. China's rise corresponds with their entrance into global markets and adoption of market based reforms.

China in 1960 had a per capita income GDP 1/3rd of Haiti. Haiti chose capitalism, China chose communism. In 2016 Haiti had a per capita income GDP 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

China has been a Communist nation since 1949.
TIMELINE: China Under Communist Rule

What sort of fucking super moron thinks they only recently became communists?
Oh, a retired history professor. That explains a lot.

Staggering stupidity.

 

[EduardBernstein]

China has been a Communist nation since 1949.
TIMELINE: China Under Communist Rule

What sort of fucking super moron thinks they only recently became communists?
Oh, a retired history professor. That explains a lot.

Staggering stupidity.

Communism turned around China, Capitalism turned down Haiti.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Where did you teach? And do you plan on giving back their money?

 

[EduardBernstein]

Where did you teach? And do you plan on giving back their money?

I taught kids a good curriculum. I can't tell you where I taught as a professor.

 

[Unkotare]

.... China 40 years ago as an almost third world nation ....

“Almost”?

 

[baileyn45]

They had famines before, and after. Point is the strict communism that China and Russia were under were failing systems. Only an uneducated person completely ignorant of history would argue that communism is a positive ideology and form of government for the people, and a good track record.

China in 1960 had a per capita income 1/3rd of Haiti. China chose communism, Haiti chose capitalism by 2016 Haiti had a per capita income 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

You sound a little too young and totally brainwashed. Those of us who have been around remember China 40 years ago as an almost third world nation that managed to turn things around by copying and emulating Western style capitalism.

I'm a retired history professor. China went from the poorest nation on earth to a superpower because of communism.

That's nonsense. China's rise corresponds with their entrance into global markets and adoption of market based reforms.

China in 1960 had a per capita income GDP 1/3rd of Haiti. Haiti chose capitalism, China chose communism. In 2016 Haiti had a per capita income GDP 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

China chose communism long before 1960. It implemented market reforms in the late 70s. In 1980 China's per capita gdp was a quarter of the worlds average. By 2000 it was 56% of the world average. By 2010 it was 103%. It was market based reforms that led to China's success not communists command policies.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I can't tell you where I taught as a professor.

Right! Legal ramifications.

 

[EduardBernstein]

China in 1960 had a per capita income 1/3rd of Haiti. China chose communism, Haiti chose capitalism by 2016 Haiti had a per capita income 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

You sound a little too young and totally brainwashed. Those of us who have been around remember China 40 years ago as an almost third world nation that managed to turn things around by copying and emulating Western style capitalism.

I'm a retired history professor. China went from the poorest nation on earth to a superpower because of communism.

That's nonsense. China's rise corresponds with their entrance into global markets and adoption of market based reforms.

China in 1960 had a per capita income GDP 1/3rd of Haiti. Haiti chose capitalism, China chose communism. In 2016 Haiti had a per capita income GDP 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

China chose communism long before 1960. It implemented market reforms in the late 70s. In 1980 China's per capita gdp was a quarter of the worlds average. By 2000 it was 56% of the world average. By 2010 it was 103%. It was market based reforms that led to China's success not communists command policies.

Per capita income GDP grew faster in China in the 1960s than in India in the 1960s.

 

[baileyn45]

You sound a little too young and totally brainwashed. Those of us who have been around remember China 40 years ago as an almost third world nation that managed to turn things around by copying and emulating Western style capitalism.

I'm a retired history professor. China went from the poorest nation on earth to a superpower because of communism.

That's nonsense. China's rise corresponds with their entrance into global markets and adoption of market based reforms.

China in 1960 had a per capita income GDP 1/3rd of Haiti. Haiti chose capitalism, China chose communism. In 2016 Haiti had a per capita income GDP 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

China chose communism long before 1960. It implemented market reforms in the late 70s. In 1980 China's per capita gdp was a quarter of the worlds average. By 2000 it was 56% of the world average. By 2010 it was 103%. It was market based reforms that led to China's success not communists command policies.

Per capita income GDP grew faster in China in the 1960s than in India in the 1960s.

So what? They were both pitiful. The fact remains China did not advance economically until market based reforms were started in 1978.

 

[Roudy]

Perhaps you should provide a link? Communism is a failed ideology that has brought misery, oppression and death, and was thrown into the dustbin of history. Both China and USSR were collapsing under communism, USSR collapsed and changed into a what Russia is today, and China implemented gradual capitalistic changes that ended up with a semi capitalistic system that we have today. Here is some factual history, no charge for educating you:

How China went from communist to capitalist

Between 1959 and 1961, food production plummeted due to crop and industrial shortfalls. A great famine resulted, causing millions of deaths. The loss of privately run sectors was hurting the country tremendously.

In 1978, Deng Xiaoping, a Chinese revolutionary and veteran of the Communist Party, was eager to adopt capitalist methods and reforms in order to stimulate economic growth and restore confidence in the party. He and U.S. President Jimmy Carter signed an historic accord in 1979, reversing decades of China-U.S. tension.

Deng launched several economic reforms that allowed private sectors to start and operate their own businesses once again. He also established four special economic zones along the coast of China with intentions of attracting foreign investments.

Due to the reforms Deng put in place, China has gone from being a country that opposed capitalism to one that embraces property rights, profits and free market competition.

China had famines long before Mao Zedong. They actually stopped shortly after Mao.
List of famines in China - Wikipedia

They had famines before, and after. Point is the strict communism that China and Russia were under were failing systems. Only an uneducated person completely ignorant of history would argue that communism is a positive ideology and form of government for the people, and a good track record.

China in 1960 had a per capita income 1/3rd of Haiti. China chose communism, Haiti chose capitalism by 2016 Haiti had a per capita income 1/7th of China.List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

You sound a little too young and totally brainwashed. Those of us who have been around remember China 40 years ago as an almost third world nation that managed to turn things around by copying and emulating Western style capitalism.

I'm a retired history professor. China went from the poorest nation on earth to a superpower because of communism.

Retired history professor, my ass. You sound like a brainwashed kid repeating Leftist communistic dogma.