Tennessee Seeks tonBar Same Sex Marriage

Never was. Existing right disappear all the time. This isn’t even a real issue. All it is is polititions pandering to a group of dumb white apes who are confused about biology.

You might be right. Considering there are documented examples of homosexuality and same gender pairings in numerous species, perhaps the Tennessee legislators are simply confused about biology.


You made my point. Killing is also documented in multiple species, so is cannibalisem and incest, yet there are no specal voting advocates for that stuff. At least none that are taken seriously.

And all of those things cause harm.

What harm does a same sex marriage cause? In fact, what effect does it have on you at all?


Does any of that cause harm? All of them can be practiced in a peaceable non violent manner by humans. How would cannibalisem hurt you? Or incest? And murder? A few weeks ago we had thousands cheer the legalization of birthing a child, naming forceps in its head and sucking outnumbered its brain with an industrial suction device, yet you refuse to recognize to Fay’s need to be affirmed and all the sudden your Pol Pot?


Killing people harms those people (and others).
Cannibals typically kill people to eat them. See above.
Incest drastically increases the chances of severe birth defects, and can cause psychological problems in the child. Similar to abuse.

As for the late term abortion laws, I have no voiced any opinion on them at all. I am talking about same sex marriage.


1.Not if the people want to die.

2.see above. Who are you to say?

3.but it’s consenting adults. If they are willing, who are you to say?

4. Marriage is just a thing. In the case of same sex marriage as it’s argued here, it’s nothing but a thing to get little Halley face “thank hous” on USMB. It’s not even a real issue.
 
They dont create, they merge. They need outside help, unlike a heterosexual.
Its a stupid argument.
Gays should be able to adopt and get married because with ridiculous arguments like that, you look dumb.
What the fuck are you blathering about. That isn't even coherent. What do you have to say about hetero couples who" need outside help" There are many you know.
2 queers cant create a human, you imbecile.
They cant create a family. They can only merge one. Or seek outside help.
Calling me an imbecile does not make you sound smart'

I'm well aware of how babies are made

I'm also aware of the fact that two people being able to create a child in the usual "approved " manner does not in itself qualify them tp be parents

What exactly is your problem? You claim to support gay marriage and adoption, but continue to denigrate them with slurs and pursue this stupid issue about procreation as a means of setting gay couples apart as inferior.
Stating facts isnt denigrating them.
I never said having babies made a couple superior.
You are arguing shit i never said
Using slurs is denigrating them . No you never said having babies made a couple superior. But your harping on the baby thing implies it I'm going to call bullshit on your claim of supporting gay rights
I said queer. Whoopty do
I was simply correcting you. They cant create a family. You said they could, which is wrong.
I dont give a damn whether you think i believe gays should be married or not.
I dont believe in govt discrimination in any form. So GFY.
 
'Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act' seeks to strip gay marriage rights


I really have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with these people! My only question is, are they so stupid and blindly driven by their bigotry that they don't know that any federal judge will immediately slap on injunction on this- because they would have to given the Obergefell precedent- OR is a a strategy to get the case back to SCOTUS?

My guess is that they are anticipating and provoking a court fight, but even if it gets to SCOTUS there is no certainty that Obergefell will be overturned. Never in our history a right-once established- been revoked. A Roberts, who seems to have become the new swing vote, is aware of the outrage that would insue and the stain on his legacy that it would inflict.

Nearly four years after the Supreme Court made same-sex marriage legal throughout the U.S. in its landmark Obergefell v. Hodges decision, Republican lawmakers in Tennessee are attempting to turn back the clock with legislation aimed at barring gay marriage in the state.


The "Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act," which was first proposed in 2016, seeks to "defend natural marriage between one man and one woman regardless of any court decision to the contrary." The bill, which was reintroduced on Friday, would deem the high court's Obergefell decision "unauthoritative, void, and of no effect."

And that is not all

The reintroduced "natural marriage" law, however, "isn't the only anti-LGBT bill on the docket right now," noted Sanders. He said there are at least five other bills in the state legislature that may threaten the rights of LGBTQ people in Tennessee. One of these bills, which was introduced in both the state House and Senate (Pody is the sponsor of the Senate bill), seeks to allow private adoption agencies to decline to participate in any child placement services that would "violate the agency's written religious or moral convictions." This type of legislation, which can already be found in 10 states across the U.S., creates barriers for LGBTQ individuals and same-sex couples looking to adopt or foster.

These people have to be, and will be stopped.



What the hell are you talking about? What was the matter with B. Hussein O in 2012, when he advocated against Gay Marriage as well?

Gay Marriage is a new institution, society lived without it for millennia. Almighty God established the institution of marriage when he put the first man and the first broad into the Garden. I was watching TV several years ago, the greatest theologian of our time, Jerry Falwell Sr. was giving a sermon. He studied the Holy Bible extensively and discovered that Almighty God put Adam and Eve into the Garden, NOT Adam and Steve. I checked my own Bible, Falwell was sport on accurate.
 
'Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act' seeks to strip gay marriage rights


I really have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with these people! My only question is, are they so stupid and blindly driven by their bigotry that they don't know that any federal judge will immediately slap on injunction on this- because they would have to given the Obergefell precedent- OR is a a strategy to get the case back to SCOTUS?

My guess is that they are anticipating and provoking a court fight, but even if it gets to SCOTUS there is no certainty that Obergefell will be overturned. Never in our history a right-once established- been revoked. A Roberts, who seems to have become the new swing vote, is aware of the outrage that would insue and the stain on his legacy that it would inflict.

Nearly four years after the Supreme Court made same-sex marriage legal throughout the U.S. in its landmark Obergefell v. Hodges decision, Republican lawmakers in Tennessee are attempting to turn back the clock with legislation aimed at barring gay marriage in the state.


The "Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act," which was first proposed in 2016, seeks to "defend natural marriage between one man and one woman regardless of any court decision to the contrary." The bill, which was reintroduced on Friday, would deem the high court's Obergefell decision "unauthoritative, void, and of no effect."

And that is not all

The reintroduced "natural marriage" law, however, "isn't the only anti-LGBT bill on the docket right now," noted Sanders. He said there are at least five other bills in the state legislature that may threaten the rights of LGBTQ people in Tennessee. One of these bills, which was introduced in both the state House and Senate (Pody is the sponsor of the Senate bill), seeks to allow private adoption agencies to decline to participate in any child placement services that would "violate the agency's written religious or moral convictions." This type of legislation, which can already be found in 10 states across the U.S., creates barriers for LGBTQ individuals and same-sex couples looking to adopt or foster.

These people have to be, and will be stopped.



What the hell are you talking about? What was the matter with B. Hussein O in 2012, when he advocated against Gay Marriage as well?

Gay Marriage is a new institution, society lived without it for millennia. Almighty God established the institution of marriage when he put the first man and the first broad into the Garden. I was watching TV several years ago, the greatest theologian of our time, Jerry Falwell Sr. was giving a sermon. He studied the Holy Bible extensively and discovered that Almighty God put Adam and Eve into the Garden, NOT Adam and Steve. I checked my own Bible, Falwell was sport on accurate.
You and Falwell are both nuts. Are you and Falwell on board with slavery and stoning adulterers too? It`s in the Bible!
 
'Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act' seeks to strip gay marriage rights


I really have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with these people! My only question is, are they so stupid and blindly driven by their bigotry that they don't know that any federal judge will immediately slap on injunction on this- because they would have to given the Obergefell precedent- OR is a a strategy to get the case back to SCOTUS?

My guess is that they are anticipating and provoking a court fight, but even if it gets to SCOTUS there is no certainty that Obergefell will be overturned. Never in our history a right-once established- been revoked. A Roberts, who seems to have become the new swing vote, is aware of the outrage that would insue and the stain on his legacy that it would inflict.

Nearly four years after the Supreme Court made same-sex marriage legal throughout the U.S. in its landmark Obergefell v. Hodges decision, Republican lawmakers in Tennessee are attempting to turn back the clock with legislation aimed at barring gay marriage in the state.


The "Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act," which was first proposed in 2016, seeks to "defend natural marriage between one man and one woman regardless of any court decision to the contrary." The bill, which was reintroduced on Friday, would deem the high court's Obergefell decision "unauthoritative, void, and of no effect."

And that is not all

The reintroduced "natural marriage" law, however, "isn't the only anti-LGBT bill on the docket right now," noted Sanders. He said there are at least five other bills in the state legislature that may threaten the rights of LGBTQ people in Tennessee. One of these bills, which was introduced in both the state House and Senate (Pody is the sponsor of the Senate bill), seeks to allow private adoption agencies to decline to participate in any child placement services that would "violate the agency's written religious or moral convictions." This type of legislation, which can already be found in 10 states across the U.S., creates barriers for LGBTQ individuals and same-sex couples looking to adopt or foster.

These people have to be, and will be stopped.



What the hell are you talking about? What was the matter with B. Hussein O in 2012, when he advocated against Gay Marriage as well?

Gay Marriage is a new institution, society lived without it for millennia. Almighty God established the institution of marriage when he put the first man and the first broad into the Garden. I was watching TV several years ago, the greatest theologian of our time, Jerry Falwell Sr. was giving a sermon. He studied the Holy Bible extensively and discovered that Almighty God put Adam and Eve into the Garden, NOT Adam and Steve. I checked my own Bible, Falwell was sport on accurate.
You and Falwell are both nuts. Are you and Falwell on board with slavery and stoning adulterers too? It`s in the Bible!

I'm not in favor of slavery or stoning adulterers, and neither was the late Dr. Falwell. You really need to study history. Gay Marriage has never worked before. How did it work out in Sodom? How about in Gomorrah?
 
'Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act' seeks to strip gay marriage rights


I really have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with these people! My only question is, are they so stupid and blindly driven by their bigotry that they don't know that any federal judge will immediately slap on injunction on this- because they would have to given the Obergefell precedent- OR is a a strategy to get the case back to SCOTUS?

My guess is that they are anticipating and provoking a court fight, but even if it gets to SCOTUS there is no certainty that Obergefell will be overturned. Never in our history a right-once established- been revoked. A Roberts, who seems to have become the new swing vote, is aware of the outrage that would insue and the stain on his legacy that it would inflict.

Nearly four years after the Supreme Court made same-sex marriage legal throughout the U.S. in its landmark Obergefell v. Hodges decision, Republican lawmakers in Tennessee are attempting to turn back the clock with legislation aimed at barring gay marriage in the state.


The "Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act," which was first proposed in 2016, seeks to "defend natural marriage between one man and one woman regardless of any court decision to the contrary." The bill, which was reintroduced on Friday, would deem the high court's Obergefell decision "unauthoritative, void, and of no effect."

And that is not all

The reintroduced "natural marriage" law, however, "isn't the only anti-LGBT bill on the docket right now," noted Sanders. He said there are at least five other bills in the state legislature that may threaten the rights of LGBTQ people in Tennessee. One of these bills, which was introduced in both the state House and Senate (Pody is the sponsor of the Senate bill), seeks to allow private adoption agencies to decline to participate in any child placement services that would "violate the agency's written religious or moral convictions." This type of legislation, which can already be found in 10 states across the U.S., creates barriers for LGBTQ individuals and same-sex couples looking to adopt or foster.

These people have to be, and will be stopped.



What the hell are you talking about? What was the matter with B. Hussein O in 2012, when he advocated against Gay Marriage as well?

Gay Marriage is a new institution, society lived without it for millennia. Almighty God established the institution of marriage when he put the first man and the first broad into the Garden. I was watching TV several years ago, the greatest theologian of our time, Jerry Falwell Sr. was giving a sermon. He studied the Holy Bible extensively and discovered that Almighty God put Adam and Eve into the Garden, NOT Adam and Steve. I checked my own Bible, Falwell was sport on accurate.
You and Falwell are both nuts. Are you and Falwell on board with slavery and stoning adulterers too? It`s in the Bible!

I'm not in favor of slavery or stoning adulterers, and neither was the late Dr. Falwell. You really need to study history. Gay Marriage has never worked before. How did it work out in Sodom? How about in Gomorrah?
Ezekiel 16:49 mentions the inhabitants` refusal to care for the poor, despite their prosperity is seen as evidence that homosexuality was not the cause of their damnation....if you believe this sort of nonsense.
Sodom and Gomorrah | Description, Summary, & Controversy
 
You might be right. Considering there are documented examples of homosexuality and same gender pairings in numerous species, perhaps the Tennessee legislators are simply confused about biology.


You made my point. Killing is also documented in multiple species, so is cannibalisem and incest, yet there are no specal voting advocates for that stuff. At least none that are taken seriously.

And all of those things cause harm.

What harm does a same sex marriage cause? In fact, what effect does it have on you at all?


Does any of that cause harm? All of them can be practiced in a peaceable non violent manner by humans. How would cannibalisem hurt you? Or incest? And murder? A few weeks ago we had thousands cheer the legalization of birthing a child, naming forceps in its head and sucking outnumbered its brain with an industrial suction device, yet you refuse to recognize to Fay’s need to be affirmed and all the sudden your Pol Pot?


Killing people harms those people (and others).
Cannibals typically kill people to eat them. See above.
Incest drastically increases the chances of severe birth defects, and can cause psychological problems in the child. Similar to abuse.

As for the late term abortion laws, I have no voiced any opinion on them at all. I am talking about same sex marriage.


1.Not if the people want to die.

2.see above. Who are you to say?

3.but it’s consenting adults. If they are willing, who are you to say?

4. Marriage is just a thing. In the case of same sex marriage as it’s argued here, it’s nothing but a thing to get little Halley face “thank hous” on USMB. It’s not even a real issue.
If it's not an issue why are you here with your idiotic horseshit
 
'Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act' seeks to strip gay marriage rights


I really have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with these people! My only question is, are they so stupid and blindly driven by their bigotry that they don't know that any federal judge will immediately slap on injunction on this- because they would have to given the Obergefell precedent- OR is a a strategy to get the case back to SCOTUS?

My guess is that they are anticipating and provoking a court fight, but even if it gets to SCOTUS there is no certainty that Obergefell will be overturned. Never in our history a right-once established- been revoked. A Roberts, who seems to have become the new swing vote, is aware of the outrage that would insue and the stain on his legacy that it would inflict.

Nearly four years after the Supreme Court made same-sex marriage legal throughout the U.S. in its landmark Obergefell v. Hodges decision, Republican lawmakers in Tennessee are attempting to turn back the clock with legislation aimed at barring gay marriage in the state.


The "Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act," which was first proposed in 2016, seeks to "defend natural marriage between one man and one woman regardless of any court decision to the contrary." The bill, which was reintroduced on Friday, would deem the high court's Obergefell decision "unauthoritative, void, and of no effect."

And that is not all

The reintroduced "natural marriage" law, however, "isn't the only anti-LGBT bill on the docket right now," noted Sanders. He said there are at least five other bills in the state legislature that may threaten the rights of LGBTQ people in Tennessee. One of these bills, which was introduced in both the state House and Senate (Pody is the sponsor of the Senate bill), seeks to allow private adoption agencies to decline to participate in any child placement services that would "violate the agency's written religious or moral convictions." This type of legislation, which can already be found in 10 states across the U.S., creates barriers for LGBTQ individuals and same-sex couples looking to adopt or foster.

These people have to be, and will be stopped.



What the hell are you talking about? What was the matter with B. Hussein O in 2012, when he advocated against Gay Marriage as well?

Gay Marriage is a new institution, society lived without it for millennia. Almighty God established the institution of marriage when he put the first man and the first broad into the Garden. I was watching TV several years ago, the greatest theologian of our time, Jerry Falwell Sr. was giving a sermon. He studied the Holy Bible extensively and discovered that Almighty God put Adam and Eve into the Garden, NOT Adam and Steve. I checked my own Bible, Falwell was sport on accurate.
You and Falwell are both nuts. Are you and Falwell on board with slavery and stoning adulterers too? It`s in the Bible!

I'm not in favor of slavery or stoning adulterers, and neither was the late Dr. Falwell. You really need to study history. Gay Marriage has never worked before. How did it work out in Sodom? How about in Gomorrah?
How is it working out in the Netherlands where it's been legal since 1996? Tell us all about how they are headed for doom. Tell us about all of the social problems it is cause here? Commmon big guy!!
 
I was simply correcting you. They cant create a family. You said they could, which is wrong.
What the fuck do you call this? IF not families what are they.? What is your definition of a family? Again, I calling bullshit on your claim that you support gay rights.

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'Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act' seeks to strip gay marriage rights


I really have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with these people! My only question is, are they so stupid and blindly driven by their bigotry that they don't know that any federal judge will immediately slap on injunction on this- because they would have to given the Obergefell precedent- OR is a a strategy to get the case back to SCOTUS?

My guess is that they are anticipating and provoking a court fight, but even if it gets to SCOTUS there is no certainty that Obergefell will be overturned. Never in our history a right-once established- been revoked. A Roberts, who seems to have become the new swing vote, is aware of the outrage that would insue and the stain on his legacy that it would inflict.

Nearly four years after the Supreme Court made same-sex marriage legal throughout the U.S. in its landmark Obergefell v. Hodges decision, Republican lawmakers in Tennessee are attempting to turn back the clock with legislation aimed at barring gay marriage in the state.


The "Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act," which was first proposed in 2016, seeks to "defend natural marriage between one man and one woman regardless of any court decision to the contrary." The bill, which was reintroduced on Friday, would deem the high court's Obergefell decision "unauthoritative, void, and of no effect."

And that is not all

The reintroduced "natural marriage" law, however, "isn't the only anti-LGBT bill on the docket right now," noted Sanders. He said there are at least five other bills in the state legislature that may threaten the rights of LGBTQ people in Tennessee. One of these bills, which was introduced in both the state House and Senate (Pody is the sponsor of the Senate bill), seeks to allow private adoption agencies to decline to participate in any child placement services that would "violate the agency's written religious or moral convictions." This type of legislation, which can already be found in 10 states across the U.S., creates barriers for LGBTQ individuals and same-sex couples looking to adopt or foster.

These people have to be, and will be stopped.



What the hell are you talking about? What was the matter with B. Hussein O in 2012, when he advocated against Gay Marriage as well?

Gay Marriage is a new institution, society lived without it for millennia. Almighty God established the institution of marriage when he put the first man and the first broad into the Garden. I was watching TV several years ago, the greatest theologian of our time, Jerry Falwell Sr. was giving a sermon. He studied the Holy Bible extensively and discovered that Almighty God put Adam and Eve into the Garden, NOT Adam and Steve. I checked my own Bible, Falwell was sport on accurate.
You and Falwell are both nuts. Are you and Falwell on board with slavery and stoning adulterers too? It`s in the Bible!

I'm not in favor of slavery or stoning adulterers, and neither was the late Dr. Falwell. You really need to study history. Gay Marriage has never worked before. How did it work out in Sodom? How about in Gomorrah?
How is it working out in the Netherlands where it's been legal since 1996? Tell us all about how they are headed for doom. Tell us about all of the social problems it is cause here? Commmon big guy!!

In America, we've had Gay Marriage in our penal system for many decades. It really hasn't created peace.

And if you look at the historical records in Sodom, as well as Gomorrah, it hasn't worked out ideal
 
I was simply correcting you. They cant create a family. You said they could, which is wrong.
What the fuck do you call this? IF not families what are they.? What is your definition of a family? Again, I calling bullshit on your claim that you support gay rights.


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They didnt CREATE. Good gawd man. Are you that stupid?
I believe in equal rights for everyone from the govt. Idc if you believe me or not.
If i was against gays getting married, i wouldnt say it.
You think im scared to say what i feel? :lol:
 
'Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act' seeks to strip gay marriage rights


I really have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with these people! My only question is, are they so stupid and blindly driven by their bigotry that they don't know that any federal judge will immediately slap on injunction on this- because they would have to given the Obergefell precedent- OR is a a strategy to get the case back to SCOTUS?

My guess is that they are anticipating and provoking a court fight, but even if it gets to SCOTUS there is no certainty that Obergefell will be overturned. Never in our history a right-once established- been revoked. A Roberts, who seems to have become the new swing vote, is aware of the outrage that would insue and the stain on his legacy that it would inflict.

And that is not all

These people have to be, and will be stopped.



What the hell are you talking about? What was the matter with B. Hussein O in 2012, when he advocated against Gay Marriage as well?

Gay Marriage is a new institution, society lived without it for millennia. Almighty God established the institution of marriage when he put the first man and the first broad into the Garden. I was watching TV several years ago, the greatest theologian of our time, Jerry Falwell Sr. was giving a sermon. He studied the Holy Bible extensively and discovered that Almighty God put Adam and Eve into the Garden, NOT Adam and Steve. I checked my own Bible, Falwell was sport on accurate.
You and Falwell are both nuts. Are you and Falwell on board with slavery and stoning adulterers too? It`s in the Bible!

I'm not in favor of slavery or stoning adulterers, and neither was the late Dr. Falwell. You really need to study history. Gay Marriage has never worked before. How did it work out in Sodom? How about in Gomorrah?
How is it working out in the Netherlands where it's been legal since 1996? Tell us all about how they are headed for doom. Tell us about all of the social problems it is cause here? Commmon big guy!!

In America, we've had Gay Marriage in our penal system for many decades. It really hasn't created peace.

And if you look at the historical records in Sodom, as well as Gomorrah, it hasn't worked out ideal

Oh not that prison crap again!


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You made my point. Killing is also documented in multiple species, so is cannibalisem and incest, yet there are no specal voting advocates for that stuff. At least none that are taken seriously.

And all of those things cause harm.

What harm does a same sex marriage cause? In fact, what effect does it have on you at all?


Does any of that cause harm? All of them can be practiced in a peaceable non violent manner by humans. How would cannibalisem hurt you? Or incest? And murder? A few weeks ago we had thousands cheer the legalization of birthing a child, naming forceps in its head and sucking outnumbered its brain with an industrial suction device, yet you refuse to recognize to Fay’s need to be affirmed and all the sudden your Pol Pot?


Killing people harms those people (and others).
Cannibals typically kill people to eat them. See above.
Incest drastically increases the chances of severe birth defects, and can cause psychological problems in the child. Similar to abuse.

As for the late term abortion laws, I have no voiced any opinion on them at all. I am talking about same sex marriage.


1.Not if the people want to die.

2.see above. Who are you to say?

3.but it’s consenting adults. If they are willing, who are you to say?

4. Marriage is just a thing. In the case of same sex marriage as it’s argued here, it’s nothing but a thing to get little Halley face “thank hous” on USMB. It’s not even a real issue.
If it's not an issue why are you here with your idiotic horseshit



Sure, its an issue. Gay Marriage is very contentious issue. When votes have been held people have been against it.


But I don't think its good for the homosexual community, and I'll tell you why. Gay Marriage was invented to outrage and offend "straight arrows" or normative folks. It was established as the ultimate in camp. Accepting the institution as normative, forces gay people to seek even crazier stuff to offend Normative Americans. That's transsexuality is becoming big, and other things even crazier and more dangerous will be coming.
 
What the hell are you talking about? What was the matter with B. Hussein O in 2012, when he advocated against Gay Marriage as well?

Gay Marriage is a new institution, society lived without it for millennia. Almighty God established the institution of marriage when he put the first man and the first broad into the Garden. I was watching TV several years ago, the greatest theologian of our time, Jerry Falwell Sr. was giving a sermon. He studied the Holy Bible extensively and discovered that Almighty God put Adam and Eve into the Garden, NOT Adam and Steve. I checked my own Bible, Falwell was sport on accurate.
You and Falwell are both nuts. Are you and Falwell on board with slavery and stoning adulterers too? It`s in the Bible!

I'm not in favor of slavery or stoning adulterers, and neither was the late Dr. Falwell. You really need to study history. Gay Marriage has never worked before. How did it work out in Sodom? How about in Gomorrah?
How is it working out in the Netherlands where it's been legal since 1996? Tell us all about how they are headed for doom. Tell us about all of the social problems it is cause here? Commmon big guy!!

In America, we've had Gay Marriage in our penal system for many decades. It really hasn't created peace.

And if you look at the historical records in Sodom, as well as Gomorrah, it hasn't worked out ideal

Oh not that prison crap again!


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Homosexuality is big news in the big house, PP. Bigger than it is here on the outside.
 
If it's not about a man sticking something in his ass or cutting off his dick, progpat isn't interested.

#HeteroPride.
 
You made my point. Killing is also documented in multiple species, so is cannibalisem and incest, yet there are no specal voting advocates for that stuff. At least none that are taken seriously.

And all of those things cause harm.

What harm does a same sex marriage cause? In fact, what effect does it have on you at all?


Does any of that cause harm? All of them can be practiced in a peaceable non violent manner by humans. How would cannibalisem hurt you? Or incest? And murder? A few weeks ago we had thousands cheer the legalization of birthing a child, naming forceps in its head and sucking outnumbered its brain with an industrial suction device, yet you refuse to recognize to Fay’s need to be affirmed and all the sudden your Pol Pot?


Killing people harms those people (and others).
Cannibals typically kill people to eat them. See above.
Incest drastically increases the chances of severe birth defects, and can cause psychological problems in the child. Similar to abuse.

As for the late term abortion laws, I have no voiced any opinion on them at all. I am talking about same sex marriage.


1.Not if the people want to die.

2.see above. Who are you to say?

3.but it’s consenting adults. If they are willing, who are you to say?

4. Marriage is just a thing. In the case of same sex marriage as it’s argued here, it’s nothing but a thing to get little Halley face “thank hous” on USMB. It’s not even a real issue.
If it's not an issue why are you here with your idiotic horseshit


Why you gott announce your Jewish all the time? If you don’t like it then ignore if. No go fuck your self capo.
 
And all of those things cause harm.

What harm does a same sex marriage cause? In fact, what effect does it have on you at all?


Does any of that cause harm? All of them can be practiced in a peaceable non violent manner by humans. How would cannibalisem hurt you? Or incest? And murder? A few weeks ago we had thousands cheer the legalization of birthing a child, naming forceps in its head and sucking outnumbered its brain with an industrial suction device, yet you refuse to recognize to Fay’s need to be affirmed and all the sudden your Pol Pot?


Killing people harms those people (and others).
Cannibals typically kill people to eat them. See above.
Incest drastically increases the chances of severe birth defects, and can cause psychological problems in the child. Similar to abuse.

As for the late term abortion laws, I have no voiced any opinion on them at all. I am talking about same sex marriage.


1.Not if the people want to die.

2.see above. Who are you to say?

3.but it’s consenting adults. If they are willing, who are you to say?

4. Marriage is just a thing. In the case of same sex marriage as it’s argued here, it’s nothing but a thing to get little Halley face “thank hous” on USMB. It’s not even a real issue.
If it's not an issue why are you here with your idiotic horseshit



Sure, its an issue. Gay Marriage is very contentious issue. When votes have been held people have been against it.


But I don't think its good for the homosexual community, and I'll tell you why. Gay Marriage was invented to outrage and offend "straight arrows" or normative folks. It was established as the ultimate in camp. Accepting the institution as normative, forces gay people to seek even crazier stuff to offend Normative Americans. That's transsexuality is becoming big, and other things even crazier and more dangerous will be coming.


Don’t care what side says what. A stupid blue piece of paper is nothing more then proof you payed a tax. Its a non issue. Or better yet, it IS an issue, one that’s used to gun up the members of each tribe and get them pounding drums.
 
They are offered equally to those who meet the criteria of potential parenting. Procreation. Hetero relationships. Homos can’t procreate as homos.
This is the same worn out, lost argument that close minded homofascists won’t give up on.

If procreation were a criteria of marriage, you might have a point. It isn't. You don't.
I have been married twice. No where in any license was there mention of children. Hetero couples who are sterile are allowed to marry. How many women who have had their uterus removed have gotten married? Homosexual couples have children via other means, just like many, many heterosexual couples.

The "marriage is for procreation" is what is the same worn out, lost argument. It doesn't hold water. The proof is in the fact that those who cannot possibly have children are still allowed to marry.

As I said, same sex marriage has no effect on you. Why do you care?
We’ve been through this too many times; the people who invented marriage, legal or otherwise, never thought they’d have to explain that marriage exists for the purpose of creating families and survival of the species.
Like the guy who invented the latex glove wouldn’t think that he’d be compelled by law to explain that it’s not a synthetic cow udder.
Same sex couples do create families like anyone else and our species, unfortunately, is in no danger of extinction
Homos cannot procreate. They still require the opposite gender which makes it hetero.
So?
Then there is no need for any legal recognition of or acquiescence to their homo relationship. It’s 100% personal.
 
I was simply correcting you. They cant create a family. You said they could, which is wrong.
What the fuck do you call this? IF not families what are they.? What is your definition of a family? Again, I calling bullshit on your claim that you support gay rights.

They didnt CREATE. Good gawd man. Are you that stupid?
I believe in equal rights for everyone from the govt. Idc if you believe me or not.
If i was against gays getting married, i wouldnt say it.
You think im scared to say what i feel? :lol:
You are aggravatingly obtuse or your just playing a sick and dishonest game. YOU said that they did not/ could not create a family? A family is created when people form a family unit and function as a FAMILY. The fact that they did not create those child as a couple does not change that Would you also say that a straight couple who adopted, or where a child is from another marriage did not create their family. Your pursuit of this issue has me convinced that your a bigot because it emphasizes how they might be different, when they are the same in so many more important ways. Yet you are too dishonest to admit it.
 
The amount of time, energy, and state money these state legislators spend on this stupidity is astonishing. Don't they have any real responsibilities?

The 14th Amendment exists, Obergefell is precedential, and it would do a great deal of damage to our country and legal system to allow the passing of legislation that is totally ideological in origin and has nothing to do with any legitimate government interest.

Are the people who try to pass these laws "normal"?

They are using the legislative process to voice their views, as is proper.

Obergfell overstepped the bounds of constitutionality, plain and simple. At best what they should have done is force all States to recognize valid Marriage licenses from other States as they always have under full faith and credit, regardless of if the license met the in-state requirements.
Obergefell did not overstep any bounds of constitutionality. Please review the 14th Amendment.
Outside of any constitutional argument, just what is your beef? The question of legal marriage is a CIVIL matter. Now, LGBTs can get married under CIVIL law and enjoy the LEGAL benefits of doing so.
Please recognize the difference between CIVIL LAW and the rules of whatever religion you have freely chosen to follow. Being legally married is under our U.S. civil law.
What being married means to you, under your chosen religion or ideology is up to you.
One of my uncles married a woman and had one child with her, my cousin. They divorced, and he married another, and had three children with her. They were never married in the Catholic Churrch with full ceremony, but they were married under civil law.
Marriage under civil U.S. law is so different than the concept of marriage that exists in the religious law that you choose to follow.



A person can stand in any church or house of worship to recite all the marriage vows they want.

They are no more married than they were before they recited those vows.

People are married when they sign that marriage license and it's filed with the state.

Until that legal document is signed, those involved aren't married. They have none of the legal rights that come with marriage.

Marriage is a legal contract that people enter. They agree to share and build their lives together. They are legal equal partners in everything they do. If the marriage fails, like so many do, both have equal rights to what they built together.

What happens in any church that doesn't include a legal marriage license isn't legal and has absolutely no legal standing in our nation.

So a person can think that their marriage is about religion but it's not and they have absolutely no right to force those religious beliefs on anyone in this nation.

I find it sick that some christians believe that they have the right to force their religion on our nation and expect those of us who aren't christian to have to follow their religious laws. We don't. Religious laws have absolutely no legal standing in our nation. No one can use religion as a reason to violate our laws and our laws aren't based on any religion.

I wonder how those christians would feel or react if I tried to force my faith on them? Or how about if someone tried to force islamic faith and law on them? I'm sure they would be screaming about freedom of religion and separation of religion and government. However, when it comes to christian laws they are the first to scream that they have the right to force it on our nation.
 

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