Tar Sand Oil Pipeline Ruptures in Arkansas.

Gotta love it.

Arkansas residents evacuate as Exxon-Mobil tar sands pipeline ruptures | The Raw Story

An Exxon-Mobil oil pipeline ruptured Friday afternoon in the town of Mayflower, Arkansas, forcing the evacuation of 20 homes and shutting down sections of interstate highway. According to Little Rock’s KATV, a hazardous materials team from the Office of Emergency Management has contained the spill and is currently attempting a cleanup.

The burst pipe is part of the Pegasus pipeline network, which connects tar sands along the Gulf coast to refineries in Houston. Thousands of gallons of crude oil erupted from the breach around 3:00 p.m. on Friday, spilling through a housing subdivision and into the town’s storm drainage system, fouling drainage ditches and shutting down Highway 365 and Interstate 40.

Residents were evacuated to avoid health hazards from crude oil fumes and to keep stray sparks from igniting the standing oil. Emergency workers contained the spill by hastily constructing earthen dams.

What's to love about it? This is where we are all supposed to get emotional and trade in our cars for bicycles right. Have you???? No, of course you haven't.

Naw.

And there's no need for it either.

You folks want to give card blanche to oil companies..who while killing Americans to save a buck are the most prosperous enterprize in the history of capitalism. They've made more profit than all industries in all capitalistic ventures in all of history, combined.

Personally? I think they can afford to be a bit more responsible..and stop killing Americans.

You folks simply disagree with that notion.
 
The issue isn't whether additional pipelines are needed. Of course they are.

The issues are about appropriate punishments for rogue corporations whose failure to properly build and maintain pipelines put quality of life at risk.

When corporate executives are imprisoned and senior executive's personal assets are seized to pay damages, then these accidents will cease. My years of experience with pipelines make it clear no accidents at all NEED to occur. Every accident on record is 100% due to cutting corners on executive orders.

Given the need for energy and the efficiency of pipelines, solutions for preventing environmental disasters are clear, basic, and do not involve legions of government halfwits getting in the way. Whether the lemming people in congress can escape the grasp of corporate ownership long enough to bumble into draconian punishment as the cheapest most effective solution to corporate criminality is the only unresolved question.

All pipelines are inspected and must pass stringent test per DOT (Dept. of Transportation)standards.

Your notion of "rogue corporations" is ridiculous.

Educate yourself before you speak on a topic you are ignorant of.
 
Develop...The operative..
Let the people in the white lab coats figure it out. Until then we MUST keep finding and harvesting our own energy.

What would cost more, to keep subsidising the fossil fuel industries or to put that money into R&D for alternatives?

To keep subsidizing the fossil fuel industries. Why do you think we now have oil sand spilling into Arkansas? Because we're running out of easy ways to get those fuels, and before, tar sand was considered expensive, but now it's considered to be good.

Even though it's much worse for the environment in case of a spill than oil ever thought of being.

We're close enough to getting viable energy from solar and wind, only trouble is, BP, Exxon and Shell didn't have the foresight to invest in it, which is why they oppose it.

Give me solar, give me wind, and make it into electricity. I'd like for my grandchild to have a decent planet to live on.

We're close to what?
So you have it on good authority that "we're close" to those solar powered cars and trucks?
Wind farms...YUK YUK....A company wanted to build on off the shores of Nantucket. The limousine liberal blue bloods including the Kennedy's fought that saying it would interfere with their sailing.
Another outfit proposed a wind farm atop some desolate area of the NC Blue Ridge....The Sierra Club and other environazi groups howled in protest. Project terminated.
In So Cal, there is a wind farm that according to animal rights activists was harming birds. Seems the flying dummies could not avoid the 40 foot turbine blades.
Solar power is inefficient and in some areas of the country completely useless due to extended periods of cloud cover.

The fact is the world is far off the grid on these sources. They are expensive and inefficient.
These and other sources of energy are good ideas. Their development is in infancy.
You will just have to quell your need for instant gratification on this.
 
What would cost more, to keep subsidising the fossil fuel industries or to put that money into R&D for alternatives?

To keep subsidizing the fossil fuel industries. Why do you think we now have oil sand spilling into Arkansas? Because we're running out of easy ways to get those fuels, and before, tar sand was considered expensive, but now it's considered to be good.

Even though it's much worse for the environment in case of a spill than oil ever thought of being.

We're close enough to getting viable energy from solar and wind, only trouble is, BP, Exxon and Shell didn't have the foresight to invest in it, which is why they oppose it.

Give me solar, give me wind, and make it into electricity. I'd like for my grandchild to have a decent planet to live on.

We're close to what?
So you have it on good authority that "we're close" to those solar powered cars and trucks?
Wind farms...YUK YUK....A company wanted to build on off the shores of Nantucket. The limousine liberal blue bloods including the Kennedy's fought that saying it would interfere with their sailing.
Another outfit proposed a wind farm atop some desolate area of the NC Blue Ridge....The Sierra Club and other environazi groups howled in protest. Project terminated.
In So Cal, there is a wind farm that according to animal rights activists was harming birds. Seems the flying dummies could not avoid the 40 foot turbine blades.
Solar power is inefficient and in some areas of the country completely useless due to extended periods of cloud cover.

The fact is the world is far off the grid on these sources. They are expensive and inefficient.
These and other sources of energy are good ideas. Their development is in infancy.
You will just have to quell your need for instant gratification on this.

Hence the need for money to be spent on R&D.
Too many are just saying it doesn't work and using that as an excuse to walk away.
 
To keep subsidizing the fossil fuel industries. Why do you think we now have oil sand spilling into Arkansas? Because we're running out of easy ways to get those fuels, and before, tar sand was considered expensive, but now it's considered to be good.

Even though it's much worse for the environment in case of a spill than oil ever thought of being.

We're close enough to getting viable energy from solar and wind, only trouble is, BP, Exxon and Shell didn't have the foresight to invest in it, which is why they oppose it.

Give me solar, give me wind, and make it into electricity. I'd like for my grandchild to have a decent planet to live on.

We're close to what?
So you have it on good authority that "we're close" to those solar powered cars and trucks?
Wind farms...YUK YUK....A company wanted to build on off the shores of Nantucket. The limousine liberal blue bloods including the Kennedy's fought that saying it would interfere with their sailing.
Another outfit proposed a wind farm atop some desolate area of the NC Blue Ridge....The Sierra Club and other environazi groups howled in protest. Project terminated.
In So Cal, there is a wind farm that according to animal rights activists was harming birds. Seems the flying dummies could not avoid the 40 foot turbine blades.
Solar power is inefficient and in some areas of the country completely useless due to extended periods of cloud cover.

The fact is the world is far off the grid on these sources. They are expensive and inefficient.
These and other sources of energy are good ideas. Their development is in infancy.
You will just have to quell your need for instant gratification on this.

Hence the need for money to be spent on R&D.
Too many are just saying it doesn't work and using that as an excuse to walk away.
money has been spent. Lots of it. And we get Solyndra...Half a billion out the window.
No. The issue is not money. It's viability. If the private sector could realize a profit on the construction and manufacture of materials and products which produce and deliver viable and cost effective alternative energy, we'd be seeing it roll out in the near future.
Simply throwing money out into the night and hoping the right ideas comes along is not only expensive but a tremendous waste of taxpayer resources.
Let the people who already have the ideas work on them.
I am not and I would guess the majority of us want to see results before we are willing to allow government to tax us for yet again something else.
But hey, if you want to help out, send them a check.
 
Develop...The operative..
Let the people in the white lab coats figure it out. Until then we MUST keep finding and harvesting our own energy.

What would cost more, to keep subsidising the fossil fuel industries or to put that money into R&D for alternatives?

To keep subsidizing the fossil fuel industries. Why do you think we now have oil sand spilling into Arkansas? Because we're running out of easy ways to get those fuels, and before, tar sand was considered expensive, but now it's considered to be good.

Even though it's much worse for the environment in case of a spill than oil ever thought of being.

We're close enough to getting viable energy from solar and wind, only trouble is, BP, Exxon and Shell didn't have the foresight to invest in it, which is why they oppose it.

Give me solar, give me wind, and make it into electricity. I'd like for my grandchild to have a decent planet to live on.

The fossil fuel industries aren't subsidized. Not in the U.S. anyway.

BP, Exxon, and Shell invest monumental sums of money in alternatives and renewables.
 
What would cost more, to keep subsidising the fossil fuel industries or to put that money into R&D for alternatives?

To keep subsidizing the fossil fuel industries. Why do you think we now have oil sand spilling into Arkansas? Because we're running out of easy ways to get those fuels, and before, tar sand was considered expensive, but now it's considered to be good.

Even though it's much worse for the environment in case of a spill than oil ever thought of being.

We're close enough to getting viable energy from solar and wind, only trouble is, BP, Exxon and Shell didn't have the foresight to invest in it, which is why they oppose it.

Give me solar, give me wind, and make it into electricity. I'd like for my grandchild to have a decent planet to live on.

The fossil fuel industries aren't subsidized. Not in the U.S. anyway.

BP, Exxon, and Shell invest monumental sums of money in alternatives and renewables.
And that is where the money should be coming from. The private sector. Not via the taxpayers. And the government should keep it's incompetent meddling hands out it entirely.
 
What would cost more, to keep subsidising the fossil fuel industries or to put that money into R&D for alternatives?

To keep subsidizing the fossil fuel industries. Why do you think we now have oil sand spilling into Arkansas? Because we're running out of easy ways to get those fuels, and before, tar sand was considered expensive, but now it's considered to be good.

Even though it's much worse for the environment in case of a spill than oil ever thought of being.

We're close enough to getting viable energy from solar and wind, only trouble is, BP, Exxon and Shell didn't have the foresight to invest in it, which is why they oppose it.

Give me solar, give me wind, and make it into electricity. I'd like for my grandchild to have a decent planet to live on.

The fossil fuel industries aren't subsidized. Not in the U.S. anyway.

BP, Exxon, and Shell invest monumental sums of money in alternatives and renewables.

But that simply isn't true.
In the United States, credible estimates of annual fossil fuel subsidies range from $10 billion to $52 billion annually
Fossil Fuel Subsidies in the U.S. | The Price of Oil

Earlier today President Obama challenged Congress to either stand with Big Oil, or stand with the American people. A vote on legislation introduced by Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) that would have eliminated over $2.4 billion in annual tax deductions to the top 5 oil companies was subsequently defeated a few hours later.
Senate Fails to Cut Favors to Big Oil, Once Again | The Price of Oil

'Subsidy' is used as an all-encompassing description for tax breaks, low interest loans, direct subsidies etc.
But you could also factor in such costs as the military to defend sea lanes and the like.
 
Oil and natural gas businesses big and small are investing tens of billions of dollars annually in the U.S. economy, producing a commodity that literally fuels our nation, employing millions of Americans, contributing to the GDP, reducing the trade deficit, improving the balance of payments, pumping huge sums of dollars into local state and federal tax coffers...

... yet the Liberals want them hung from the rafters.

Fuck that shit.
 
Oil and natural gas businesses big and small are investing tens of billions of dollars annually in the U.S. economy, producing a commodity that literally fuels our nation, employing millions of Americans, contributing to the GDP, reducing the trade deficit, improving the balance of payments, pumping huge sums of dollars into local state and federal tax coffers...

... yet the Liberals want them hung from the rafters.

Fuck that shit.

Why do they need the subsidies then?
Are you saying that they're investing them back into the economy?
 
To keep subsidizing the fossil fuel industries. Why do you think we now have oil sand spilling into Arkansas? Because we're running out of easy ways to get those fuels, and before, tar sand was considered expensive, but now it's considered to be good.

Even though it's much worse for the environment in case of a spill than oil ever thought of being.

We're close enough to getting viable energy from solar and wind, only trouble is, BP, Exxon and Shell didn't have the foresight to invest in it, which is why they oppose it.

Give me solar, give me wind, and make it into electricity. I'd like for my grandchild to have a decent planet to live on.

The fossil fuel industries aren't subsidized. Not in the U.S. anyway.

BP, Exxon, and Shell invest monumental sums of money in alternatives and renewables.

But that simply isn't true.
In the United States, credible estimates of annual fossil fuel subsidies range from $10 billion to $52 billion annually
Fossil Fuel Subsidies in the U.S. | The Price of Oil

Earlier today President Obama challenged Congress to either stand with Big Oil, or stand with the American people. A vote on legislation introduced by Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) that would have eliminated over $2.4 billion in annual tax deductions to the top 5 oil companies was subsequently defeated a few hours later.
Senate Fails to Cut Favors to Big Oil, Once Again | The Price of Oil

'Subsidy' is used as an all-encompassing description for tax breaks, low interest loans, direct subsidies etc.
But you could also factor in such costs as the military to defend sea lanes and the like.

That "all-encompassing description" is a creation of anti-business socialists. Tax breaks are mechanisms by which the government takes less than what was never theirs to take in the first place. Such tax treatment is afforded all industries- not just oil and gas.

"Big Oil" is practically non-existent in the U.S. these days. Independent companies do over 80% of exploration and production in this country.

Obama sucks ballz.
 
Oil and natural gas businesses big and small are investing tens of billions of dollars annually in the U.S. economy, producing a commodity that literally fuels our nation, employing millions of Americans, contributing to the GDP, reducing the trade deficit, improving the balance of payments, pumping huge sums of dollars into local state and federal tax coffers...

... yet the Liberals want them hung from the rafters.

Fuck that shit.

Why do they need the subsidies then?
Are you saying that they're investing them back into the economy?

As I stated, Independents - not "Big Oil" comprise the vast majority of E & P in this country.
Independent producers reinvest 150 percent of their cash flow into new energy projects.

Obama sucks ballz.
 
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