Syrian next, its all been planned for years. (Just taking a bit longer)

[flacaltenn]

the OP is By Whacky Conspiracyst website HenryMakow.com.
Henry of board-game-fame/now infamy, whose main theory is the Lesbian-Marxist plot takeover the world. (and Penelope's womb).

Then in post #2, and others, Joo-Hater Jorge-Phillip chimes in with 'GlobalResearch', Another Wack-job Conspiracy website.

Then, in post #22, we have a Moderator/flacaltenn Validating the theory of the Conspiracy OP.

These are Garbage strings that don't belong up here.
Moderation 101.
`

The original OP (such as it is) was about AMERICAN strategic plans to change the Middle East.. Georgie (and others) of course don't seem to care about AMERICA'S bungling of Mid-East policy -- so like MOST threads in this forum -- it ends up focusing on George's pile of toxic reading material about Jews.

If it seems to you that I validated an American strategic plan to Democratize and Westernize the Mid-East, that's because of the large number of proponents in Govt foreign policy planning that actually BELIEVE(D) they can set up the pins and bowl a strike. This was largely the thinking behind developing Iraq, courting moderates in Iran, helping to incite the Arab spring and aiding in the Libyan revolts. A pacified Pro-Western Iraq was suppose to set an example for Arab cohesion and unity. And instill a desire for Intl. trade and relations. Worked on the Kurds. Not so much the Shia and Sunnis.. All of this is in the open at PNAC and CFRelations documents. And in the statements of our own leaders.

The New American Isolationism Hoover Institution


An inclination to retreat from an engaged foreign policy already began to emerge during the first months of the George W. Bush presidency, with its initial resistance to the nation-building policies associated with its predecessor. Yet in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, the prosecution of the war on terror pulled the US into the Middle East and Central Asia, redefining foreign-policy goals toward the ambitious project to spread democracy. While this policy turn resulted primarily from the terrorist attacks and the pursuit of Al Qaeda, it is important to note how the democracy agenda also displayed a striking continuity with the emphasis on human rights from the Clinton years as well as from the Republican legacy of Ronald Reagan, all of which based foreign-policy goals on understanding American values as having universal validity.

At first, those ambitions seemed bold but certainly credible in the light of recent historical experience. The dictatorships of Communist Eastern Europe had collapsed with little violence (except in the sorry case of Romania), and it could seem plausible that a similar democratic wave would sweep triumphantly, and peacefully, through the Arab world in the wake of the toppling of Saddam Hussein. (Nor was that aspiration fully wrong, since, with some delay, the Arab Spring would follow and unsettle the old order of Middle East dictators. But it would quickly involve significant violence, and the response from Obama’s Washington would be quite different, much more hesitant and confused, than the Bush administration’s unambiguous support for the transformation of Eastern Europe.) The optimistic illusion that the changes in the Arab world would take place as smoothly as those in the post-Communist world after 1989 may have contributed to the catastrophic insufficiency of political postwar planning by the US as to how to rebuild Iraq after the fall of Saddam. At the very apex of the American victory, the moment of military victory in Baghdad, the limits of American political thinking became apparent. We could topple the dictator, but we had no plans to help the nation rebuild, especially when the extent of devastation caused by the years of Baathist rule became apparent.

All of the other crap about Israel's plans for conquering land IS conspiracy theory (no empirical evidence or sane documentation) and changing the subject. Moderation at USMB does not judge content. We try to keep thread alive in the PROPER forums. And if this thread was on the topic of the OP -- it would never be a problem. But if no one WANTS to discuss the OP -- there's always a risk that some moderator will close it..

 

[georgephillip]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

What the fuck is all this blabbing?

Georges posts have EVERYTHING to do with his hatred for Jews. He's a grown man living by himself in a studio apartment in a shithole neighbourhood while living off welfare from the same government he hates so much.

Now, can you tell us what my neighborhood or economic level has to do with the OP of this thread? Are you disputing my claim that significant aspects of Oded Yinon's plan, created in the 1980s), are now becoming apparent in Iraq and Syria today? You obviously have a massive moral blind spot where the state of Israel is concerned, and that explains why your arguments consist mostly of ad-hominem and deflection. Maybe you should read more?

 

[Penelope]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

What the fuck is all this blabbing?

Georges posts have EVERYTHING to do with his hatred for Jews. He's a grown man living by himself in a studio apartment in a shithole neighbourhood while living off welfare from the same government he hates so much.

And?

 

[georgephillip]

the OP is By Whacky Conspiracyst website HenryMakow.com.
Henry of board-game-fame/now infamy, whose main theory is the Lesbian-Marxist plot takeover the world. (and Penelope's womb).

Then in post #2, and others, Joo-Hater Jorge-Phillip chimes in with 'GlobalResearch', Another Wack-job Conspiracy website.

Then, in post #22, we have a Moderator/flacaltenn Validating the theory of the Conspiracy OP.

These are Garbage strings that don't belong up here.
Moderation 101.
`

The original OP (such as it is) was about AMERICAN strategic plans to change the Middle East.. Georgie (and others) of course don't seem to care about AMERICA'S bungling of Mid-East policy -- so like MOST threads in this forum -- it ends up focusing on George's pile of toxic reading material about Jews.

If it seems to you that I validated an American strategic plan to Democratize and Westernize the Mid-East, that's because of the large number of proponents in Govt foreign policy planning that actually BELIEVE(D) they can set up the pins and bowl a strike. This was largely the thinking behind developing Iraq, courting moderates in Iran, helping to incite the Arab spring and aiding in the Libyan revolts. A pacified Pro-Western Iraq was suppose to set an example for Arab cohesion and unity. And instill a desire for Intl. trade and relations. Worked on the Kurds. Not so much the Shia and Sunnis.. All of this is in the open at PNAC and CFRelations documents. And in the statements of our own leaders.

The New American Isolationism Hoover Institution


An inclination to retreat from an engaged foreign policy already began to emerge during the first months of the George W. Bush presidency, with its initial resistance to the nation-building policies associated with its predecessor. Yet in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, the prosecution of the war on terror pulled the US into the Middle East and Central Asia, redefining foreign-policy goals toward the ambitious project to spread democracy. While this policy turn resulted primarily from the terrorist attacks and the pursuit of Al Qaeda, it is important to note how the democracy agenda also displayed a striking continuity with the emphasis on human rights from the Clinton years as well as from the Republican legacy of Ronald Reagan, all of which based foreign-policy goals on understanding American values as having universal validity.

At first, those ambitions seemed bold but certainly credible in the light of recent historical experience. The dictatorships of Communist Eastern Europe had collapsed with little violence (except in the sorry case of Romania), and it could seem plausible that a similar democratic wave would sweep triumphantly, and peacefully, through the Arab world in the wake of the toppling of Saddam Hussein. (Nor was that aspiration fully wrong, since, with some delay, the Arab Spring would follow and unsettle the old order of Middle East dictators. But it would quickly involve significant violence, and the response from Obama’s Washington would be quite different, much more hesitant and confused, than the Bush administration’s unambiguous support for the transformation of Eastern Europe.) The optimistic illusion that the changes in the Arab world would take place as smoothly as those in the post-Communist world after 1989 may have contributed to the catastrophic insufficiency of political postwar planning by the US as to how to rebuild Iraq after the fall of Saddam. At the very apex of the American victory, the moment of military victory in Baghdad, the limits of American political thinking became apparent. We could topple the dictator, but we had no plans to help the nation rebuild, especially when the extent of devastation caused by the years of Baathist rule became apparent.

All of the other crap about Israel's plans for conquering land IS conspiracy theory (no empirical evidence or sane documentation) and changing the subject. Moderation at USMB does not judge content. We try to keep thread alive in the PROPER forums. And if this thread was on the topic of the OP -- it would never be a problem. But if no one WANTS to discuss the OP -- there's always a risk that some moderator will close it..

You haven't noticed Israel's "creeping" conquest of Palestine?

"GENEVA — The United Nations' first report on Israel's overall settlement policy describes it as a 'creeping annexation' of territory that clearly violates the human rights of Palestinians, and calls for Israel to immediately stop further such construction.

"The report's conclusions, revealed Thursday, are not legally binding, but they further inflame tensions between the UN Human Rights Council and Israel, and between Israel and the Palestinians.

"Israeli officials immediately denounced the report, while Palestinians pointed to it as "proof of Israel's policy of ethnic cleansing" and its desire to undermine the possibility of a Palestinian state."

Anyone seriously disputing Israel's well-documented ethnic cleansing in Palestine SHOULD stick with conspiracy threads.

UN report Israel s creeping annexation of territory is illegal - CSMonitor.com

 

[toastman]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

What the fuck is all this blabbing?

Georges posts have EVERYTHING to do with his hatred for Jews. He's a grown man living by himself in a studio apartment in a shithole neighbourhood while living off welfare from the same government he hates so much.

Now, can you tell us what my neighborhood or economic level has to do with the OP of this thread? Are you disputing my claim that significant aspects of Oded Yinon's plan, created in the 1980s), are now becoming apparent in Iraq and Syria today? You obviously have a massive moral blind spot where the state of Israel is concerned, and that explains why your arguments consist mostly of ad-hominem and deflection. Maybe you should read more?

Maybe if you didn't express your hatred for Jews all the time, I would actually have a nice clean debate with you...

 

[Sally]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

What the fuck is all this blabbing?

Georges posts have EVERYTHING to do with his hatred for Jews. He's a grown man living by himself in a studio apartment in a shithole neighbourhood while living off welfare from the same government he hates so much.

Now, can you tell us what my neighborhood or economic level has to do with the OP of this thread? Are you disputing my claim that significant aspects of Oded Yinon's plan, created in the 1980s), are now becoming apparent in Iraq and Syria today? You obviously have a massive moral blind spot where the state of Israel is concerned, and that explains why your arguments consist mostly of ad-hominem and deflection. Maybe you should read more?

Maybe if you didn't express your hatred for Jews all the time, I would actually have a nice clean debate with you...

Gaza George reminds me of this article.

CNN BBC Israeli Commando Taken Hostage - Israel News

 

[georgephillip]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

What the fuck is all this blabbing?

Georges posts have EVERYTHING to do with his hatred for Jews. He's a grown man living by himself in a studio apartment in a shithole neighbourhood while living off welfare from the same government he hates so much.

Now, can you tell us what my neighborhood or economic level has to do with the OP of this thread? Are you disputing my claim that significant aspects of Oded Yinon's plan, created in the 1980s), are now becoming apparent in Iraq and Syria today? You obviously have a massive moral blind spot where the state of Israel is concerned, and that explains why your arguments consist mostly of ad-hominem and deflection. Maybe you should read more?

Maybe if you didn't express your hatred for Jews all the time, I would actually have a nice clean debate with you...

Gaza George reminds me of this article.

CNN BBC Israeli Commando Taken Hostage - Israel News

PR flack confused himself with being creative:

"About the Author

Ronn Torossian is one of America’s most prolific public relations experts. He is founder of 5WPR, one of the largest independent PR firms in the world, and works for leading companies in a number of different industries. Torossian is

Must be Jewish...

CNN BBC Israeli Commando Taken Hostage - Israel News

 

[Daniyel]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

What the fuck is all this blabbing?

Georges posts have EVERYTHING to do with his hatred for Jews. He's a grown man living by himself in a studio apartment in a shithole neighbourhood while living off welfare from the same government he hates so much.

Now, can you tell us what my neighborhood or economic level has to do with the OP of this thread? Are you disputing my claim that significant aspects of Oded Yinon's plan, created in the 1980s), are now becoming apparent in Iraq and Syria today? You obviously have a massive moral blind spot where the state of Israel is concerned, and that explains why your arguments consist mostly of ad-hominem and deflection. Maybe you should read more?

Maybe if you didn't express your hatred for Jews all the time, I would actually have a nice clean debate with you...

Gaza George reminds me of this article.

CNN BBC Israeli Commando Taken Hostage - Israel News

Awesome haha!!

 

[georgephillip]

 

[Sally]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

What the fuck is all this blabbing?

Georges posts have EVERYTHING to do with his hatred for Jews. He's a grown man living by himself in a studio apartment in a shithole neighbourhood while living off welfare from the same government he hates so much.

Come on, Toastman. You have to enjoy Penelope for entertainment purposes. I have a feeling she is part of that Iranian gang living in that little town in Arkansas, and the other one who used to post is probably getting shock treatments. I would suggest that Penelope read Masterminds of Terror in which on of her new bestest friends in the world described to an Al Jazeera reporter how 9/11 was planned and carried out. After she finishes reading the book, she can visit him in his cell and tell him he was lying and that it wasn't Muslims who committed 9/11. He certainly wouldn't like hearing this since they were all so proud at how they got New York down on its knews and were only sorry that they weren't able to do the same to Chicago and Los Angeles as planned so he would put Penelope over his knees and give her the spanking of her life. All that huge accomplishment and some lowly woman wants to give the credit to others!!!

 

[Sally]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

What the fuck is all this blabbing?

Georges posts have EVERYTHING to do with his hatred for Jews. He's a grown man living by himself in a studio apartment in a shithole neighbourhood while living off welfare from the same government he hates so much.

Now, can you tell us what my neighborhood or economic level has to do with the OP of this thread? Are you disputing my claim that significant aspects of Oded Yinon's plan, created in the 1980s), are now becoming apparent in Iraq and Syria today? You obviously have a massive moral blind spot where the state of Israel is concerned, and that explains why your arguments consist mostly of ad-hominem and deflection. Maybe you should read more?

Maybe if you didn't express your hatred for Jews all the time, I would actually have a nice clean debate with you...

Gaza George reminds me of this article.

CNN BBC Israeli Commando Taken Hostage - Israel News

Awesome haha!!

I liked the one going around about a man saving a little girl from a ferocious dog which was attacking her. The reporters were going to write a great story about this guy being a great hero. However, when they found out he was an Israeli, in the papers the next day the headlines read "Israeli kills little girl's dog."

 

[Richard-H]

"According to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, “the area of the Jewish State stretches: 'From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.'

"According to Rabbi Fischmann, 'The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt up to the Euphrates, it includes parts of Syria and Lebanon.'”
http://data:
Young Arabs rioting against food prices and rich dictators played a prominent role in the Arab Spring; however, elites around the world quickly found ways to exploit the rising demands for democracy in the Middle East.

8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

Holy moly! Not even King David, murderer and genocidal maniac that he was, envisioned a Jewish nation that extended that far.

What kind of an idiot came up with this plan?