Syrian next, its all been planned for years. (Just taking a bit longer)

[georgephillip]

...The biggest of the many Big Lies Israel regularly tells the world is how badly it wants to live in peace with its neighbors. Yinon's plan reveals the Jewish state sees itself as a regional hegemon, and has behaved accordingly for the past four decades, at least. I'm afraid a majority of taxpayers aren't going to start paying critical attention to events in the Middle East until the car bombs begin going off on their blocks.

Doubtful.

If Israel was intent on acquiring that sort of land-mass, they would never have given up Sinai nor Gaza.

And they would have long-since punched through the paper-thin Jordanian border.

I call bullshit.

Why am I not surprised?
Israel returned the Sinai twice because DC gave it no choice, not in '57 with Ike and not with Carter twenty years later. Israel has never given up Gaza, as should be obvious by the nearly 2000 Gazans recently murdered by the heroic IDF.

Israel hasn't the manpower to police an area the size of Greater Israel if it were contending against sovereign states; however, as recently proven in Gaza, Israel doesn't go to war against sovereign states anymore.

Jews will rule over Greater Israel with the help of the US and its lackeys like IS in Syria and Iraq with additional help being supplied as needed by the likes of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and possibly a "Free" Kurdistan.

Those who get rich(er) from arms sales and oil sales appreciate your bullshit.

 

[flacaltenn]

The views in the OP are very valid. Not so much the tinfoil involvement of Israel. The NeoCons ARE largely responsible for accelerating bad Mid East policy.. But Penelope misunderstands this Bad Policy. It's not brilliance and planning, it's brain-dead misunderstanding of Arab politics and GROSS incompetence that is driving bad decisions for the US..

Always been that way. PNAC had wet dreams about Democracy and Westernizing those 6 or 7 countries. Arabs would rather kill each other and choose rulers by force.. MODERATES are gonna be road kill in that region in the long run..

 

[Sally]

...The biggest of the many Big Lies Israel regularly tells the world is how badly it wants to live in peace with its neighbors. Yinon's plan reveals the Jewish state sees itself as a regional hegemon, and has behaved accordingly for the past four decades, at least. I'm afraid a majority of taxpayers aren't going to start paying critical attention to events in the Middle East until the car bombs begin going off on their blocks.

Doubtful.

If Israel was intent on acquiring that sort of land-mass, they would never have given up Sinai nor Gaza.

And they would have long-since punched through the paper-thin Jordanian border.

I call bullshit.

Why am I not surprised?
Israel returned the Sinai twice because DC gave it no choice, not in '57 with Ike and not with Carter twenty years later. Israel has never given up Gaza, as should be obvious by the nearly 2000 Gazans recently murdered by the heroic IDF.

Israel hasn't the manpower to police an area the size of Greater Israel if it were contending against sovereign states; however, as recently proven in Gaza, Israel doesn't go to war against sovereign states anymore.

Jews will rule over Greater Israel with the help of the US and its lackeys like IS in Syria and Iraq with additional help being supplied as needed by the likes of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and possibly a "Free" Kurdistan.

Those who get rich(er) from arms sales and oil sales appreciate your bullshit.

Back to money again, Gaza George? Get a part-time job. Meanwhile, I think the readers and viewers are intelligent enough to realize that you have it in for your fellow scapegoats, the Jews, as if it were the Jews in Los Angeles who held you back in life. Anyone can see that there is something wrong with Gaza George if he can say that the IS group is a lackey of Israel (or even any Arab country). The IS group is made up of such extremist Muslims that it is laughable that someone would be silly enough to think that such extremist Muslims are going to be the lackeys of the Jews. Maybe Gaza George thinks the Jews are going to convince the IS group to become Bar Mitzvahed and then all will be OK.

 

[Kondor3]

...The biggest of the many Big Lies Israel regularly tells the world is how badly it wants to live in peace with its neighbors. Yinon's plan reveals the Jewish state sees itself as a regional hegemon, and has behaved accordingly for the past four decades, at least. I'm afraid a majority of taxpayers aren't going to start paying critical attention to events in the Middle East until the car bombs begin going off on their blocks.

Doubtful.

If Israel was intent on acquiring that sort of land-mass, they would never have given up Sinai nor Gaza.

And they would have long-since punched through the paper-thin Jordanian border.

I call bullshit.

Why am I not surprised?
Israel returned the Sinai twice because DC gave it no choice, not in '57 with Ike and not with Carter twenty years later. Israel has never given up Gaza, as should be obvious by the nearly 2000 Gazans recently murdered by the heroic IDF.

Israel hasn't the manpower to police an area the size of Greater Israel if it were contending against sovereign states; however, as recently proven in Gaza, Israel doesn't go to war against sovereign states anymore.

Jews will rule over Greater Israel with the help of the US and its lackeys like IS in Syria and Iraq with additional help being supplied as needed by the likes of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and possibly a "Free" Kurdistan.

Those who get rich(er) from arms sales and oil sales appreciate your bullshit.

1. there is no evidence that the State of Israel is attempting to obtain a land-mass along the lines of the map you've served up.

2. at best, Israel is hoping for the League of Nations 1922 partition proposal.

When you can serve-up convincing evidence that Israel is after anything more, you may get some traction around here with such an idea, but, until then, not bloody likely.

 

[georgephillip]

The views in the OP are very valid. Not so much the tinfoil involvement of Israel. The NeoCons ARE largely responsible for accelerating bad Mid East policy.. But Penelope misunderstands this Bad Policy. It's not brilliance and planning, it's brain-dead misunderstanding of Arab politics and GROSS incompetence that is driving bad decisions for the US..

Always been that way. PNAC had wet dreams about Democracy and Westernizing those 6 or 7 countries. Arabs would rather kill each other and choose rulers by force.. MODERATES are gonna be road kill in that region in the long run..

Anyone delusional enough to believe PNAC wet dreams included anything except eternal war profits for those who get rich from conflicts they stay far away from probably believes Zionists never had any intentions of spreading their plague from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.

"In respect to the creation of a Jewish state in the Middle East, the report cautioned 'Not only you as president but the American people as a whole should realize that if the American government decided to support the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, they are committing the American people to the use of force in that area, since only by force can a Jewish state in Palestine be established or maintained.'

"Crane opposed the establishment of a Jewish state in the Middle East,[10] but was as passionate a spokesman for the independence of the Arab states.[11]

"The report noted that there is a principle that the wishes of the local population must be taken into account and that there is widespread anti-Zionist feeling in Palestine and Syria, and the holy nature of the land to Christians and Moslems as well as Jews must preclude solely Jewish dominion.

"It also noted that Jews at that time comprised only 10% of the population of Palestine.[1]"

King Crane Commission - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Sally]

The views in the OP are very valid. Not so much the tinfoil involvement of Israel. The NeoCons ARE largely responsible for accelerating bad Mid East policy.. But Penelope misunderstands this Bad Policy. It's not brilliance and planning, it's brain-dead misunderstanding of Arab politics and GROSS incompetence that is driving bad decisions for the US..

Always been that way. PNAC had wet dreams about Democracy and Westernizing those 6 or 7 countries. Arabs would rather kill each other and choose rulers by force.. MODERATES are gonna be road kill in that region in the long run..

Anyone delusional enough to believe PNAC wet dreams included anything except eternal war profits for those who get rich from conflicts they stay far away from probably believes Zionists never had any intentions of spreading their plague from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.

"In respect to the creation of a Jewish state in the Middle East, the report cautioned 'Not only you as president but the American people as a whole should realize that if the American government decided to support the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, they are committing the American people to the use of force in that area, since only by force can a Jewish state in Palestine be established or maintained.'

"Crane opposed the establishment of a Jewish state in the Middle East,[10] but was as passionate a spokesman for the independence of the Arab states.[11]

"The report noted that there is a principle that the wishes of the local population must be taken into account and that there is widespread anti-Zionist feeling in Palestine and Syria, and the holy nature of the land to Christians and Moslems as well as Jews must preclude solely Jewish dominion.

"It also noted that Jews at that time comprised only 10% of the population of Palestine.[1]"

King Crane Commission - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I find it amusing how Gaza George manages to find articles written by people with the same mind set as he has. Can anyone in his right mind see the Jews in Israel planning to take over the entire Middle East which is populated with people who from early childhood are taught to hate the Jews? Even if all the Jews in the world were involved in this silly supposition, they would be against millions and millions of Arabs who would not let this happen.

 

[georgephillip]

Jews have known for decades they can control Greater Israel without risking the lives of their own young people:

"The Western front, which on the surface appears more problematic, is in fact less complicated than the Eastern front, in which most of the events that make the headlines have been taking place recently.

"Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precendent for the entire Arab worldincluding Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track.

"The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unqiue areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.

"Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan.

"This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today. 14"

8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

 

[Sally]

Jews have known for decades they can control Greater Israel without risking the lives of their own young people:

"The Western front, which on the surface appears more problematic, is in fact less complicated than the Eastern front, in which most of the events that make the headlines have been taking place recently.

"Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precendent for the entire Arab worldincluding Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track.

"The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unqiue areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.

"Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan.

"This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today. 14"

8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

Gaza George is so pathetic. He wants people to believe the nonsense that others write who have the same mind set as he has. Has Gaza George figured out a way how the Jews are supposed to control millions and millions and millions of Arabs who want to kill them? Tell us your individual plan on how the Jews are going to achieve this, and how the Arabs will go along with the scenarios of those they hate. Maybe if your plan sounds good enough, we can convince some producer to make a movie out of it.

 

[georgephillip]

Jews have known for decades they can control Greater Israel without risking the lives of their own young people:

"The Western front, which on the surface appears more problematic, is in fact less complicated than the Eastern front, in which most of the events that make the headlines have been taking place recently.

"Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precendent for the entire Arab worldincluding Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track.

"The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unqiue areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.

"Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan.

"This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today. 14"

8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

Gaza George is so pathetic. He wants people to believe the nonsense that others write who have the same mind set as he has. Has Gaza George figured out a way how the Jews are supposed to control millions and millions and millions of Arabs who want to kill them? Tell us your individual plan on how the Jews are going to achieve this, and how the Arabs will go along with the scenarios of those they hate. Maybe if your plan sounds good enough, we can convince some producer to make a movie out of it.

Why do you imagine Jews won't have any help?

 

[abu afak]

the OP is By Whacky Conspiracyst website HenryMakow.com.
Henry of board-game-fame/now infamy, whose main theory is the Lesbian-Marxist plot takeover the world. (and Penelope's womb).

Then in post #2, and others, Joo-Hater Jorge-Phillip chimes in with 'GlobalResearch', Another Wack-job Conspiracy website.

Then, in post #22, we have a Moderator/flacaltenn Validating the theory of the Conspiracy OP.

These are Garbage strings that don't belong up here.
Moderation 101.
`

 

[georgephillip]

the OP is By Whacky Conspiracyst website HenryMakow.com.
Henry of board-game-fame/now infamy, whose main theory is the Lesbian-Marxist plot takeover the world. (and Penelope's womb).

Then in post #2, and others, Joo-Hater Jorge-Phillip chimes in with 'GlobalResearch', Another Wack-job Conspiracy website.

Then, in post #22, we have a Moderator/flacaltenn Validating the theory of the Conspiracy OP.

These are Garbage strings that don't belong up here.
Moderation 101.
`

Scroll down and read Yinon's plan; maybe you'll learn something about some of the "chosen people."

"Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
The Infamous 'Oded Yinon Plan'. Introduction by Michel Chossudovsky"

8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research 8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

 

[abu afak]

"Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
The Infamous 'Oded Yinon Plan'. Introduction by Michel Chossudovsky"
8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research 8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

I have posted on the I-P topic for more than a dozen years, defeating all comers. Of course I've seen and Destroyed this BLINDINGLY STUPID proposition previously.

You know, the unbelievably STUPID theory that 5 million Jews will rule 300 Million Arabs in a land mass 50x the size of current Israel.
They're gonna have to give up ALL their day jobs, doncha think?

I mean, Israel gave back the Small PART of Gaza they occupied because the heat was too great.
So instead, YOU INCREDIBLY STUPID MORON, they're going to rule over not only part, but all of Gaza and... Egypt!, Syria!, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq!, etc.
Oh yeah!

This is so FUKKKING STUPID it's unbelievable.
And you keep Repeating it like you've got a scoop, but instead it shows you're a Nazi with an IQ of about 12.
`

 

[Penelope]

"Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
The Infamous 'Oded Yinon Plan'. Introduction by Michel Chossudovsky"
8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research 8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

I have posted on the I-P topic for more than a dozen years, defeating all comers. Of course I've seen and Destroyed this BLINDINGLY STUPID proposition previously.

You know, the unbelievably STUPID theory that 5 million Jews will rule 300 Million Arabs in a land mass 60x the size of current Israel.
They're gonna have to give up ALL their day jobs, doncha think?

I mean, Israel gave back the Small PART of Gaza they occupied because the heat was too great.
So instead, YOU INCREDIBLY STUPID MORON, they're going to rule over not only all of Gaza, but Egypt!, Syria!, Jordan Lebanon, Iraq!, etc.
Oh yeah!

This is so FUKKKING STUPID it's unbelievable.
`

And if you think this is going to happen overnight, your wrong but Egypt already helped Israel and locked up many of the Brotherhood members, and refused to work in the last war with Hamas. One does not need to rule over the countries , just have strong leaders they can order around. Not going as quick as they want or without its problems but it never does. Syria is next. Is this good for the US, heck no, but Zionist and Neocons are in control. Its all in the big plan , spelled right out in PNAC if anyone bothers to read it. Do you think our gov. is going to get on TV and tell us this crap, with none of our tax money going for new infrastructure or much of anything here , heck no. We are the money behind the New Syrian Army, you know the moderate rebels in Syria hired to overthrow Assad which I read many joined ISIS now. . .Same as what we did in Sudan and Libya.

 

[georgephillip]

"Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
The Infamous 'Oded Yinon Plan'. Introduction by Michel Chossudovsky"
8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research 8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

I have posted on the I-P topic for more than a dozen years, defeating all comers. Of course I've seen and Destroyed this BLINDINGLY STUPID proposition previously.

You know, the unbelievably STUPID theory that 5 million Jews will rule 300 Million Arabs in a land mass 50x the size of current Israel.
They're gonna have to give up ALL their day jobs, doncha think?

I mean, Israel gave back the Small PART of Gaza they occupied because the heat was too great.
So instead, YOU INCREDIBLY STUPID MORON, they're going to rule over not only part, but all of Gaza and... Egypt!, Syria!, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq!, etc.
Oh yeah!

This is so FUKKKING STUPID it's unbelievable.
And you keep Repeating it like you've got a scoop, but instead it shows you're a Nazi with an IQ of about 12.
`

I know Israel never gave back effective control of Gaza.
What's your excuse?
Are you Jewish or terminally ignorant?

 

[georgephillip]

"Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
The Infamous 'Oded Yinon Plan'. Introduction by Michel Chossudovsky"
8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research 8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

I have posted on the I-P topic for more than a dozen years, defeating all comers. Of course I've seen and Destroyed this BLINDINGLY STUPID proposition previously.

You know, the unbelievably STUPID theory that 5 million Jews will rule 300 Million Arabs in a land mass 60x the size of current Israel.
They're gonna have to give up ALL their day jobs, doncha think?

I mean, Israel gave back the Small PART of Gaza they occupied because the heat was too great.
So instead, YOU INCREDIBLY STUPID MORON, they're going to rule over not only all of Gaza, but Egypt!, Syria!, Jordan Lebanon, Iraq!, etc.
Oh yeah!

This is so FUKKKING STUPID it's unbelievable.
`

And if you think this is going to happen overnight, your wrong but Egypt already helped Israel and locked up many of the Brotherhood members, and refused to work in the last war with Hamas. One does not need to rule over the countries , just have strong leaders they can order around. Not going as quick as they want or without its problems but it never does. Syria is next. Is this good for the US, heck no, but Zionist and Neocons are in control. Its all in the big plan , spelled right out in PNAC if anyone bothers to read it. Do you think our gov. is going to get on TV and tell us this crap, with none of our tax money going for new infrastructure or much of anything here , heck no. We are the money behind the New Syrian Army, you know the moderate rebels in Syria hired to overthrow Assad which I read many joined ISIS now. . .Same as what we did in Sudan and Libya.

There's a saying widely attributed to Henry Kissinger I'll try to paraphrase: if you control oil you control countries, but if you control food you control people.

There is a rising food shortage driving much of the Arab Spring; assorted factors from climate change to US foreign policy are likely to make the shortages even more severe in the future.

If existing Arab states like Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Lebanon can be broken up into smaller and weaker mini-states, it will become relatively easy for Israel working with Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia to continue the colonial plan for the Middle East that was first instantiated by England and France after WWI:

"
[The Yinon plan] is an Israeli strategic plan to ensure Israeli regional superiority. It insists and stipulates that Israel must reconfigure its geo-political environment through the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states.

Israeli strategists viewed Iraq as their biggest strategic challenge from an Arab state. This is why Iraq was outlined as the centerpiece to the balkanization of the Middle East and the Arab World. In Iraq, on the basis of the concepts of the Yinon Plan, Israeli strategists have called for the division of Iraq into a Kurdish state and two Arab states, one for Shiite Muslims and the other for Sunni Muslims. The first step towards establishing this was a war between Iraq and Iran, which the Yinon Plan discusses.

8220 Greater Israel 8221 The Zionist Plan for the Middle East Global Research

 

[Indeependent]

I agree with george...Muslims are THAT stupid.

 

[toastman]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

 

[Penelope]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

 

[Indeependent]

I guess Muslims should have picked the Book over the Sword.

 

[toastman]

George, your IMMENSE hatred for Jewish people is wayyyy too evident for anyone to believe what you are saying.
You hate Jews (you are jealous of their success as well), that's a fact. So naturally you are going to believe what a site like global research says about Israel, and naturally you are going to demonize Jews/Israel for something they didn't do and aren't doing.
Global Research is an extremely anti Israel site full of bullshit Jooooo conspiracies. And frankly George, anyone who is a reasonable and conservative person knows that there always has been and always will be anti Jewish/anti Israel conspiracies which always seem to end up as unproven bullshit that doesn't even take place.
Once you've milked this 'Zionist plan' conspiracy theory, you'll move on to the next one .

This has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews, its just fact. Global Research is better than any Jew sight and they know their stuff., I could careless if you love Jews, hate them , or what, one can't deny what is happening, and by the Way It began with 911, all this terrorist propaganda and hatred of Muslims. Now they are shoving Iran down our throats, never see a word about Saudi Arabia , the worst country on the planet for depression and control of their citizens. Do you even live in the states, if so you should know this stuff. The fake story of 911 should of alerted you.

What the fuck is all this blabbing?

Georges posts have EVERYTHING to do with his hatred for Jews. He's a grown man living by himself in a studio apartment in a shithole neighbourhood while living off welfare from the same government he hates so much.