Swine Flu Alert!!!!!!

Canadian news report from last week declaring public officials and media have "overstated importance of swine flu" ...

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CBC News
November 6, 2009

Public health officials and journalists have overstated the importance of the swine flu, a former Ontario chief medical officer of health says.

Dr. Richard Schabas, chief medical officer of health for Hastings and Prince Edward Counties in eastern Ontario, said the H1N1 influenza outbreak needs to be put into proper perspective.

About 200,000 people die in Canada every year from all causes combined, including about 4,000 from seasonal flu.

“By the time all the dust has settled on H1N1, somewhere between 200 and 300 people will have died in this country,” Schabas said Thursday during a panel on media coverage of H1N1 on CBC News The National.

Schabas criticized the media for not trying to put the story into perspective, and for being “a little too easy to spin sometimes” by public health officials.

“I’m not letting the media off the hook totally, but I think the real villains of the piece here have been those public health officials who have consistently overplayed and overstated the importance of what is happening,” he said.

“By the time all is said and done, this is not a major public health event, but you’d never know that from what some people are saying.”

The panel also looked at the front-page coverage given to the death of Evan Frustaglio, a 13-year-old hockey player from Toronto. Evan died on the eve of the H1N1 vaccine becoming available, and demand for the vaccine jumped overnight, catching health officials by surprise.

“It was very clear when we were reporting the lines that most of the people in there did say, ‘We came because we saw the story about that little boy,’ ” CBC reporter Ioanna Roumeliotis said.

Evan’s death and his grieving father’s plea to parents to consider vaccinating their children was a tremendous human interest story, agreed Dr. Allison McGeer, an infectious disease specialist at Toronto’s Mount Sinai Hospital.

But “I’m quite sure that the people who were reporting that didn’t necessarily think about what the consequences of that would be or the context that was in,” McGeer said. “What we saw afterwards was that it caused an enormous amount of fear and anxiety that we would all like not to have seen.”

A healthy child in Canada is about 20 times more likely to be killed by a car than by the H1N1 virus, Schabas said, but that isn’t going to make the national news.

“Children actually die of flu every year and a few more die of H1N1. This was not unexpected, and the way it was presented — as if this was a sudden bolt out of the blue, some change in our perspective of H1N1 — that’s what created the anxiety. It was the way it was presented.”


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Actually, the news on TV has recently come forward saying the numbers were being exaggerated. While it's effecting children more than the "regular" flu, it's a lot lower in adults and elderly than they thought it was.
 
Actually, the news on TV has recently come forward saying the numbers were being exaggerated. While it's effecting children more than the "regular" flu, it's a lot lower in adults and elderly than they thought it was.


Agreed - even the media is starting to finally admit to the actual facts of swine flu.

And it is not actually effecting children more than regular flu regarding the entire pediatric population. It is impacting a very small percentage of children - mostly with pre-existing medical conditions, but for 99.9% of kids, the swine flu posed no more increased risk than the regular flu. 40 or 50 more pediatric deaths year over year with a population of tens of millions is a statistically insignificant. The media focused on these unusual singular cases that led to a belief that the swine flu was far more dangerous to all children - it was not.
 
Actually, the news on TV has recently come forward saying the numbers were being exaggerated. While it's effecting children more than the "regular" flu, it's a lot lower in adults and elderly than they thought it was.


Agreed - even the media is starting to finally admit to the actual facts of swine flu.

And it is not actually effecting children more than regular flu regarding the entire pediatric population. It is impacting a very small percentage of children - mostly with pre-existing medical conditions, but for 99.9% of kids, the swine flu posed no more increased risk than the regular flu. 40 or 50 more pediatric deaths year over year with a population of tens of millions is a statistically insignificant. The media focused on these unusual singular cases that led to a belief that the swine flu was far more dangerous to all children - it was not.


You have a link for that? Because everything I see that comes from sources like WHO and the CDC and local health departments says you're lying.

"In one large study among children aged 15j-85 months, the seasonal nasal-spray flu vaccine reduced the chance of influenca illness by 92 percent compared with placebo. In a study among adults, the participants were not specifically tested for influenza. However, the study found 19 percent fewer febrile respiratory tract illnesses, 24 percent fewer respiratory tract illnesses with fever, 23-27 percent fewer days of illness, 13-28 percent fewer lost work days, 15-41 percent fewer health care provider visits, and 43-47 percent less use of antipbiotics compared with placebo."
North Central Public Health District’s ninth Weekly Influenza Update.
 
My neighbors pigs all have been coughing, sneezing and have the trots. We think they have the swine flu.
 


Anyone disputing your assertion that the swine flu fears were terribly exaggerated are simply ignoring the reality of the statistical evidence.

Well done...
 


Anyone disputing your assertion that the swine flu fears were terribly exaggerated are simply ignoring the reality of the statistical evidence.

Well done...

As I said, I heard it on TV, they were recanting their original stories on the swine flu (which actually brought them up a few notches on my respect scale) ... so I knew there would be a ton of links in a Google search for it. Strange thing is, not a peep from them about the flu since then other than their "required" vaccine updates.
 
How strange that no reputable sources are saying that. All the reputable sources are saying the swine flu has been wildly underestimated, that there isn't enough vaccine, that it's killing more people than expected, and shows no signs of slowing down.

But hey, if you think the mainstream media is more knowledgeable about it, by all means, go with it.
 
How strange that no reputable sources are saying that. All the reputable sources are saying the swine flu has been wildly underestimated, that there isn't enough vaccine, that it's killing more people than expected, and shows no signs of slowing down.

But hey, if you think the mainstream media is more knowledgeable about it, by all means, go with it.

What do you consider "reputable"? Anything you list will likely either be recanting or they would have completely dropped the story and have nothing at all since a month ago.
 
How strange that no reputable sources are saying that. All the reputable sources are saying the swine flu has been wildly underestimated, that there isn't enough vaccine, that it's killing more people than expected, and shows no signs of slowing down.

But hey, if you think the mainstream media is more knowledgeable about it, by all means, go with it.


Really?

Links?
 
And again from last week, we see a physician basically confirming what the CDC stats are showing - the swine flu outbreak hysteria was way overblown and not conducive to the actual dangers...


Canadian news report from last week declaring public officials and media have "overstated importance of swine flu" ...

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CBC News
November 6, 2009

Public health officials and journalists have overstated the importance of the swine flu, a former Ontario chief medical officer of health says.

Dr. Richard Schabas, chief medical officer of health for Hastings and Prince Edward Counties in eastern Ontario, said the H1N1 influenza outbreak needs to be put into proper perspective.

About 200,000 people die in Canada every year from all causes combined, including about 4,000 from seasonal flu.

“By the time all the dust has settled on H1N1, somewhere between 200 and 300 people will have died in this country,” Schabas said Thursday during a panel on media coverage of H1N1 on CBC News The National.

Schabas criticized the media for not trying to put the story into perspective, and for being “a little too easy to spin sometimes” by public health officials.

“I’m not letting the media off the hook totally, but I think the real villains of the piece here have been those public health officials who have consistently overplayed and overstated the importance of what is happening,” he said.

“By the time all is said and done, this is not a major public health event, but you’d never know that from what some people are saying.”

The panel also looked at the front-page coverage given to the death of Evan Frustaglio, a 13-year-old hockey player from Toronto. Evan died on the eve of the H1N1 vaccine becoming available, and demand for the vaccine jumped overnight, catching health officials by surprise.

“It was very clear when we were reporting the lines that most of the people in there did say, ‘We came because we saw the story about that little boy,’ ” CBC reporter Ioanna Roumeliotis said.

Evan’s death and his grieving father’s plea to parents to consider vaccinating their children was a tremendous human interest story, agreed Dr. Allison McGeer, an infectious disease specialist at Toronto’s Mount Sinai Hospital.

But “I’m quite sure that the people who were reporting that didn’t necessarily think about what the consequences of that would be or the context that was in,” McGeer said. “What we saw afterwards was that it caused an enormous amount of fear and anxiety that we would all like not to have seen.”

A healthy child in Canada is about 20 times more likely to be killed by a car than by the H1N1 virus, Schabas said, but that isn’t going to make the national news.

“Children actually die of flu every year and a few more die of H1N1. This was not unexpected, and the way it was presented — as if this was a sudden bolt out of the blue, some change in our perspective of H1N1 — that’s what created the anxiety. It was the way it was presented.”


statism watch » Blog Archive » H1N1 overplayed by media, public health: MDs
 
How strange that no reputable sources are saying that. All the reputable sources are saying the swine flu has been wildly underestimated, that there isn't enough vaccine, that it's killing more people than expected, and shows no signs of slowing down.

But hey, if you think the mainstream media is more knowledgeable about it, by all means, go with it.


Really?

Links?

I have pasted links all through this thread, idiot. Mulitiple ones. But as a retard who gets his information from the Globe and the homeless dude on the corner, I don't expect you to read them.
 

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