Swastika On Joseph's Tomb in Nablus

[The Infidel]

Treblinka was No Extermination Camp - Just Transit Station for political prisoners

The fuck?

Unless by political prisoners, you mean "Jews" and by transit station, you mean transit between this world and the next. Then you may have a point.

Focus more on your failed life and less on Israel. Just sayin' loser.

I think pgm was being sarcastic....

 

[docmauser1]

Gush Shalom speaking

Whatsit their undemocratic babble?

What we don't know is who put it there and why they did - sorry but that is the situation.

Who could've known that jewish Shehem would've become an arab settling enterprise abomination called Nablus? Duh.

I noticed that the op also gave, to my mind at any rate, a hint of why it might have been put there mentioning the arson attack on the Bedouin mosque and I don't understand why this has not come into discussion.

The bedouinskis vandalised-barbarised their mosque in their crime 'n murder-ridden settlement, where, according to the local council officials not a single night passes without gunfire, noted by the New York Times as "... feuds and clan killings in the village, as well as a crime problem.". Arabian nights. Typical. Old news.

 

[pgm]

Modern scholarship has yet to determine whether or not the present cenotaph is to be identified with the ancient Biblical gravesite. No Jewish or Christian sources prior to the 5th century mention the tomb, and the structure originally erected over it appears to have been built by the Samaritans, for whom it was probably a sacred site.

I find the bold to be interesting for a couple reasons. One, it inspired me to find out if the Samaritans still exist (there are about 700 of them) and the difference between Samaritans and Jews (a few, including the site in which they believe the original temple was located). Two, I find it interesting that the site is only a minor Jewish religious site, but a major enough Samaritan site that they erected the structure. It also says in that wikipedia article that Christians and Samaritans fought over it.

I wonder if it's the tomb of Joseph. I do believe that sites often acquire their folklore for a reason. It's possible someone was just guessing what the site of Joseph's tomb was, but then again, it may be authentic.

The current structure is only from 1868, though. They could tear down the whole thing and rebuild it and it wouldn't matter much. There's not a trace of ancient materials on the site.

Btw, Ropey, what are the dates of the two pictures? Could you possibly have them reversed?

After Israel captured the West Bank in 1967, Muslims were prohibited from worship at the shrine and it was gradually turned into a Jewish prayer room. Interreligious friction and conflict from competing Jewish and Muslim claims over the tomb became frequent. Falling under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) following the signing of the Oslo Accords, it remained under IDF guard with Muslims prohibited from praying there. At the beginning of the Al-Aqsa Intifada in 2000, just after being handed over to the PNA, it was looted and razed. Following the reoccupation of Nablus during Israel's Operation Defensive Shield in 2002, Jewish groups returned there intermittently.Recently the structure has been refurbished, with a new cupola installed, and visits by Jewish worshippers have resumed.

I feel like the shit picture may be from 2000 and the beautiful one after it was refurbished.

 

[JStone]

Modern scholarship has yet to determine whether or not the present cenotaph is to be identified with the ancient Biblical gravesite. No Jewish or Christian sources prior to the 5th century mention the tomb, and the structure originally erected over it appears to have been built by the Samaritans, for whom it was probably a sacred site.

I find the bold to be interesting for a couple reasons. One, it inspired me to find out if the Samaritans still exist (there are about 700 of them) and the difference between Samaritans and Jews (a few, including the site in which they believe the original temple was located). Two, I find it interesting that the site is only a minor Jewish religious site, but a major enough Samaritan site that they erected the structure. It also says in that wikipedia article that Christians and Samaritans fought over it.

Samaritans do not consider themselves as part of the mainstream Jewish community, dink.

One day, you may get something right and then the Earth will cease to spin on its axis.

 

[The Infidel]

April 2011

 

[pgm]

Samaritans do not consider themselves as part of the mainstream Jewish community, dink.

No shit, Sherlock. And Jews don't always consider Samaritans to be Jews. That is why I said "the difference between Samaritans and Jews."

This is what I read:

Samaritans refer to themselves as Bene Yisrael ("Children of Israel") which is a term used by all Jewish denominations as a name for the Jewish people as a whole. They however do not refer to themselves as Yehudim (Judeans), the standard Hebrew name for Jews, considering the latter to denote only mainstream Jews.
The Talmudic attitude expressed in tractate Kutim is that they are to be treated as Jews in matters where their practice coincides with the mainstream but are treated as non-Jews where their practice differs. Since the 19th century, mainstream Judaism has regarded the Samaritans as a Jewish sect and the term Samaritan Jews has been used for them.

I knew the mentions of the Samaritans in Matthew, Luke and John (especially the parable of the Good Samaritan). I also had a general idea that the split had something to do with the Babylonian exile, but I didn't know the details.

One day, you may get something right and then the Earth will cease to spin on its axis.

One day you'll actually comprehend one of my posts correctly and respond appropriately and I'll shit bricks.

 

[JStone]

After Israel captured the West Bank in 1967

I must have missed the references to "The West Bank" in the Bible. Can you cite those references, genius?

 

[pgm]

April 2011

Ah, ok. The article about the renovations was from August, 2010.

I knew there was damage in 2000 from al-aqsa intifada. There was also damage in February, 2003 done by hammers. Finally, in February, 2008, vandals set tire fires inside the tomb in response to Israeli requests that the PNA do the repairs. A PNA security officer (maliciously say some) shot civilians in April, 2011 who didn't stop at a checkpoint (it's being investigated). Are you sure you're not confusing the events?

Anyway, more pictures of the cause of the damage (I'm 90% sure these are from 2000):

 

[pgm]

After Israel captured the West Bank in 1967

I must have missed the references to "The West Bank" in the Bible. Can you cite those references, genius?

That quote is from Wikipedia.

If it helps, though, it's a geographic term. The "west bank" of the River Jordan that was captured by Jordan 1948 and then captured by Israel in 1967. People use "west bank" to distinguish it from the east bank, which is Jordan proper.

 

[JStone]

I must have missed the references to "The West Bank" in the Bible. Can you cite those references, genius?

That quote is from Wikipedia.

If it helps, though, it's a geographic term. The "west bank" of the River Jordan that was captured by Jordan 1948 and then captured by Israel in 1967. People use "west bank" to distinguish it from the east bank, which is Jordan proper.

Dink, the correct historic geographic name of the land dating back 3000 years has been Israel, Judah and Samaria, not the West Bank.

Historian Bernard Lewis...

The countries forming the western arm of the Fertile Crescent were called by the names of the various kingdoms and peoples that ruled and inhabited them. Of these, the most familiar, or at least the best documented, are the southern lands, known in the earlier books of the Hebrew Bible and some other ancient writings as Canaan. After the Israelite conquest and settlement, the area inhabited by them came to be described as "land of the children of Israel" or simply "land of Israel" After the breakup of the kingdom of David and Solomon in the tenth century BCE, the southern part, with Jerusalem as its capital, was called Judah, while the north was called Israel

 

[pgm]

I must have missed the references to "The West Bank" in the Bible. Can you cite those references, genius?

That quote is from Wikipedia.

If it helps, though, it's a geographic term. The "west bank" of the River Jordan that was captured by Jordan 1948 and then captured by Israel in 1967. People use "west bank" to distinguish it from the east bank, which is Jordan proper.

Dink, the correct historic geographic name of the land dating back 3000 years has been Israel, Judah and Samaria, not the West Bank.

Oh, fuck off. I didn't call it the West Bank (הגדה המערבית Wikpedia did.

 

[JStone]

That quote is from Wikipedia.

If it helps, though, it's a geographic term. The "west bank" of the River Jordan that was captured by Jordan 1948 and then captured by Israel in 1967. People use "west bank" to distinguish it from the east bank, which is Jordan proper.

Dink, the correct historic geographic name of the land dating back 3000 years has been Israel, Judah and Samaria, not the West Bank.

Oh, fuck off. I didn't call it the West Bank (הגדה המערבית Wikpedia did.

Touchy since you proved to be a pathological liar in another thread.
It sucks being you.

 

[pgm]

Alright, sweetie. It's time for me to go to bed. Lots of kisses. I'm going to get some sleep.

 

[JStone]

Alright, sweetie. It's time for me to go to bed. Lots of kisses. I'm going to get some sleep.

A trail of your shredded testicles can be found from thread to thread.

 

[pgm]

Were you born without a sense of humor or did you have to give it up when you became a neocon?

 

[Sunni Man]

The "swastika" has become the Zionist stamp of approval.

Is shows that they have achieved their goals and agenda outlined in the "Protocols"

And will someday replace the "Star of David" as their national symbol.

 

[JStone]

The "swastika" has become the Zionist stamp of approval.

Is shows that they have achieved their goals and agenda outlined in the "Protocols"

And will someday replace the "Star of David" as their national symbol.

The pedophile and virgin fondler is the islamonazi stamp of approval.

Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad...

Muhammad married ‘A’isha in Mecca when she was a child of six and lived with her in Medina when she was nine or ten. She was the only virgin that he married. Her father, Abu Bakr, married her to him and the apostle gave her four hundred dirhams

Sahih Bukhari [sacred islamic scripture]

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'

Sahih Bukhari...

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible).

 

[JStone]

The "swastika" has become the Zionist stamp of approval.

Education and success and accomplishment are the Zionist stamps. Ignorance and failure, the stamp of Islamonazis.

Investor's Business Daily: How Free Israel Prospers As Islam Remains In The Dark
How Free Israel Prospers As Islam Remains In Dark - Investors.com

Israel, a New Jersey-sized nation of 7.5 million people (1.7 million of whom are Arab) filed 7,082 international patents in the five years ending in 2007. By contrast, 28 majority-Muslim nations with almost 1.2 billion people — 155 times the population of Israel — were granted 2,071 patents in the same period. Narrowing the comparison to the 17 Muslim nations of the Middle East from Morocco to Iran and down the Arabian Peninsula, the 409 million people in that region generated 680 patents in five years.
This means that the Arab and Iranian world produced about one patent per year for every 3 million people, compared with Israel's output of one annual patent for every 5,295 people, an Israeli rate some 568 times that of Israel's neighbors and sometime enemies.

The awarding of Nobel Prizes in the quantitative areas of chemistry, economics and physics shows a similar disparity, with five Israeli winners compared with one French Algerian (a Jew who earned the prize for work done in France) and an Egyptian-American (for work done at Caltech in California).

The telltale signs of Israel's economic rise can be seen in the Tel Aviv skyline and the new office complexes around Jerusalem. International giant Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. was founded in 1901 by three pharmacists in Jerusalem. Today it employs 40,000 around the world.

Teva has a market cap of $44.2 billion — the most highly valued company based in Israel and the ninth-largest firm traded on the Nasdaq

Less than 300 miles separate the purposeful creative buzz in the JVP Media Quarter from the restive streets of Cairo, where the Muslim Brotherhood tells Egypt's unemployed that their plight is the fault of corrupt capitalists and Jews. It doesn't take a Nobel Prize-winning economist to figure out where these two economies are going.

Dr. Wafa Sultan, Time magazine: Among the 100 men and women whose power, talent or moral example is transforming our world

All the useful scientific books that you have today are theirs [the Jews] the fruit of their free and creative thinking. The Jews have come from the tragedy of the Holocaust and forced the world to respect them with their knowledge not with their terror, with their work not their crying and yelling.

Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people scattered throughout the world united and won their rights through work and knowledge.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLOicfZ_bAI]Arabs for Israel - Muslims for Israel - Wafa Sultan - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JStone]

The "swastika" has become the Zionist stamp of approval.

Is shows that they have achieved their goals and agenda outlined in the "Protocols"

And will someday replace the "Star of David" as their national symbol.

Be nice to your Muslima unlike your woman-hater false prophet and islamonazi culture teach.

Dr. Wafa Sultan, Among Time magazine's 100 men and women whose power, talent or moral example is transforming our world: THE BARBARIC TREATMENT OF WOMEN IN ISLAM

When it comes to speak about women in Islam, now I am free. But I cannot forget my niece. She was forced to marry her cousin when she was 10, he was over 40. Her marriage was valid and legalized under the Islamic shariah [law] because Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, married his second wife when she was 6, he was over 50.

I always remember my niece coming back to her father's house begging him not to send her back to her husband. He would say in Islam it is a shame for a woman to leave her husband's house. God will reward you for obeying him.

At the age of 25, my niece committed suicide by setting herself on fire She was burned to death leaving 4 children.

In 2002, the Saudi religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing the correct Islamic dress. There were about 800 female students in the school building when this tragedy took place and at least 15 girls were killed.

You must fight the brain-washing machine called Islam. In order to understand Islam, you have to read the biography of Muhammad. It is very traumatizing. It is very shocking. He married his second wife when she was 6 years old, he was over 50. He married his daughter-in-law. His son was adopted so he turned to his followers and said I was told by god that sdoption is forbidden to justify his marriage to his daughter-in-law.

Muhammad's third wife was Safiyah. He attacked her tribe, he killed her father, her brother and her husband. That same day, he slept with her. That's what I call Islam.

Muslims have only two choices: To change or to be crushed. Please, please don't let your civilized way of thinking interfere with your defending America. Please, please defend your values. Please defend your freedom.

In America, I enjoy just walking down the street in America by myself without being accused of being a whore is a blessing. Just chatting with my male next-door-neighbor without being accused of committing adulter is a blessing.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up3yuQDAWKQ]Wafa Sultan - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sunni Man]

Adolph Hitler is the Founding Father of modern day Israel.

This fact cannot be denied.

Without his help the Zionist Jews would still be praying for some land to steal.