Sorry, Gun Nuts: Hitler Actually Relaxed Most Gun Laws

[Stephanie]

Good Lord... just amazing the lengths to which the constitution hating leftist democrats will go to, to further their agenda. Now HITLER is their HERO. Holy freakin' SHIT, these people are completely DERANGED.

And this is the second or third thread on this.

damn scary

 

[whitehall]

It doesn't take long for the libs to find a story they like to cut and paste without thinking. Strangely enough we have two posts by the left that apparently admire Hitler's policies. You can't expect a left wing rag like Salon to post the whole truth or even 1/4 of the truth. It is a propaganda source for the left and will go down any strange road to make a political point. Hitler "relaxed" gun laws for all the little Nazis in school who were learning how to shoot Jews.

 

[Stephanie]

ObamaBots

Now they are defending Hitler because someone said Obama is acting like him...

[ame=http://youtu.be/jp2VFN-w9d0]Obama Military Youth Brigade March in Formation - YouTube[/ame]

 

[whitehall]

It's ironic that the sissies who are touting Hitler's "relaxed" gun policies would be the first people the Nazis lined up in a ditch.

 

[Synthaholic]

From Wikipedia:
Gun politics in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." Under the new law:

Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. Writes Prof. Bernard Harcourt of the University of Chicago, "The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition."
The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.
The age at which persons could own guns was lowered from 20 to 18.
The firearms carry permit was valid for three years instead of one year.
Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.

Under both the 1928 and 1938 acts, gun manufacturers and dealers were required to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the guns' serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.

On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.

We all know what happened to the Jews after that.

You really should click the links:


Now, it's true that Jews and other minorities were prevented from having access to firearms, no doubt as a way to stop them from fighting back. One of the more disgusting rightwing memes out there, in addition to the if slaves had been armed they wouldn't have been enslaved theory, is that if the Jews had been better armed they could have defended themselves from the Holocaust. The resistance of the fairly well-armed Warsaw Ghetto is often cited. Yeah, about that:

Besides, Omer Bartov, a historian at Brown University who studies the Third Reich, notes that the Jews probably wouldn’t have had much success fighting back. “Just imagine the Jews of Germany exercising the right to bear arms and fighting the SA, SS and the Wehrmacht. The [Russian] Red Army lost 7 million men fighting the Wehrmacht, despite its tanks and planes and artillery. The Jews with pistols and shotguns would have done better?” he told Salon.

Proponents of the theory sometimes point to the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising as evidence that, as Fox News’ Judge Andrew Napolitano put it, “those able to hold onto their arms and their basic right to self-defense were much more successful in resisting the Nazi genocide.” But as the Tablet’s Michael Moynihan points out, Napolitano’s history (curiously based on a citation of work by French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson) is a bit off. In reality, only about 20 Germans were killed, while some 13,000 Jews were massacred. The remaining 50,000 who survived were promptly sent off to concentration camps.​

Bottom line: the Warsaw Ghetto resistance didn't work. It never had a prayer of working. Those who fought back should be celebrated for their bravery, but the example shouldn't be used as a matter for public policy. The denizens of the Warsaw Ghetto faced the worst of the Nazi wrath for their trouble. And the exact same fate would befall any pathetic armed resistance against U.S. armed tanks, air forces and trained military personnel if, heaven forfend, a dictatorship were to arise here. Gun control or lack thereof would make little difference to those in charge--which is why it's critically important to engage the ugly business of political checks and balances to make sure it never happens. One good way to stop the rise of despotic dictatorship would be to stop the austerity train in its tracks, since austerity and economic shock are the single biggest causes of the transformation from democracy to autocracy.

 

[Synthaholic]

If you think you need to be armed with assault weapons because you might have to fight a government that wants to take your assault weapons away through laws passed by a legally-elected body, you are a traitor and kind of a dick
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It is the people who would pass such laws and lemmings like yourself who support government authoritarianism and oppression who are the traitors and far worse than a dick. Are you really this much of a coward?

Perhaps you would be more comfortable living in Cuba.

I guess you missed the legally-elected body part.

 

[Sallow]

It's ironic that the sissies who are touting Hitler's "relaxed" gun policies would be the first people the Nazis lined up in a ditch.

True.

But that's the history.

Along with that fact that Hitler hated Liberals.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If you think you need to be armed with assault weapons because you might have to fight a government that wants to take your assault weapons away through laws passed by a legally-elected body, you are a traitor and kind of a dick
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Define what an "assault weapon" is and try banning them. Then get 2/3's of the states to ratify it... Go ahead, make our day dick.

Congress has the right to regulate gun use. Doesn't require an amendment.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Warsaw Ghetto resistance by the Jews deserves far more recognition than the blood thirty craziness of ultra right radicals and other gun wackos.

 

[Sallow]

ObamaBots

Now they are defending Hitler because someone said Obama is acting like him...

Obama Military Youth Brigade March in Formation - YouTube

You actually watch this?

What's your problem with it?

The kids are saying they are inspired to enter the work force and take responsibility for their own lives.

Ain't that something you conservatives want?

 

[Sallow]

The Warsaw Ghetto resistance by the Jews deserves far more recognition than the blood thirty craziness of ultra right radicals and other gun wackos.

It wasn't very successful. Neither were the actions of the French Partisans. Over the long haul, they did help, however. But by themselves?

 

[Luissa]

So the Libberhoids now endorse Hitler.
Color me shocked.

Yeah, that is what is happening here.

 

[Luissa]

ObamaBots

Now they are defending Hitler because someone said Obama is acting like him...

Obama Military Youth Brigade March in Formation - YouTube

Who is defending Hitler, hack?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sorry, Gun Nuts: Hitler Actually Relaxed Most Gun Laws

Here's the deal, oh, sweet, stupid gun nuts: Have a history lesson. Gun control laws had nothing to do with the rise of the Nazis or the Holocaust. In fact, they were initially part of the Treaty of Versailles at the end of World War I, punishing Germany by eliminating private ownership of guns. In the Weimar Republic, new laws liberalized gun ownership, allowing hunting rifles and more. The other gun control laws in Germany post-WWI were specifically put in to prevent armed takeover of the government by groups like the Nazi Party, which did not, in fact, stage a coup, but used electoral power to solidify its hold on the government (along with the Gestapo and the repression of demonized Communist groups). In fact, Hitler and the Third Reich opened up gun ownership even more, even if they did ban all Jews from owning guns. Yeah, the 1938 law said "a hunting license entitles the holder to carry firearms and handguns." That was new. It also lowered the age of gun ownership from 20 to 18 and changed one-year permits to three-year.

Oh, by the way, the law also took away any "stabbing weapons" from Jews. And if the Jews had been more strongly armed and attacked the government, all that would have happened is that even more people would have turned on them because the propaganda that said that evil Jews wanted to enslave the country would have appeared to be proven true. No, the Holocaust wouldn't have been worse. But it would still have happened. (This leaves out the enormous amount of armed Jewish resistance against the Nazis.)

The Rude Pundit understands that there's a lot of people out there who like to fellate their guns and call it love. He understands that there's so many who are jonesing for that first rampaging black man to come bursting in during a race riot so they can finally find out what really happens when Bushmaster fire hits human flesh. He understands that there's a whole lot of people invested in chasing the phantoms of resistance, as if they could actually survive if the government turns on us.

If you think you need to be armed with assault weapons because you might have to fight a government that wants to take your assault weapons away through laws passed by a legally-elected body, you are a traitor and kind of a dick. And if that's the best you've got for your argument on why you need to have military style weapons, then you, dear, dumb friend, are believing a whole heaping shovelful of lies.

Come, fantasize for a moment about something other than Jesus with a strap-on shaped like a Ruger reaming your asshole. Fantasize that many non-Jewish Germans opposed Hitler and wanted to rise up against him. You know what would have happened? The enormous Nazi army would have massacred them. The Third Reich existed because the German people wanted it to exist. Give it up.

Fantasize now that the American government wants you dead. Fantasize about the sound of that drone carrying missiles. It's a nearly silent whoosh. You hear it? You think your semi-automatic whatever could stop it? Now imagine being turned into blood vapor.

Really, though, it's never gonna happen. And neither is the race war. And chances are pretty damn good that you're never gonna get to point a gun at anyone other than a family member or yourself.

But, if nothing else, give up the Nazi analogy. Considering all the Nazi shit that shows up at gun shows in an approving way, you just look like hypocritical yahoos attempting to be smart, and that's just fuckin' pathetic.

You don't see anything wrong with playing the Hitler card?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The ultra radicals here are acting like little hitlerites.

 

[Sallow]

ObamaBots

Now they are defending Hitler because someone said Obama is acting like him...

Obama Military Youth Brigade March in Formation - YouTube

Who is defending Hitler, hack?

Watch the video..

Aside from the garb..which by the way should warm the hearts of conservatives because it's militaristic..they are chanting some very positive slogans.

 

[Marie888]

If you think you need to be armed with assault weapons because you might have to fight a government that wants to take your assault weapons away through laws passed by a legally-elected body, you are a traitor and kind of a dick
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When I see this in bold and someone truly believing in what they are typing, I'm almost speechless. What in the heck???? Where in the hell did we go wrong to even have one US Citizen state and believe in what he just stated above?




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[Warrior102]

] Where in the hell did we go wrong to even have one US Citizen state and believe in what he just stated above?




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A lot of these Libberhoids feel this way
And they bitched about GW Bush infringing on their rights
Pathetic

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama is their Lord and Savior so it goes beyond politics

They can play the Hitler card if they feel its needed to defend their Messiah

 

[Warrior102]

Obama is their Lord and Savior so it goes beyond politics

They can play the Hitler card if they feel its needed to defend their Messiah

They already adore Arafat
Hitler - not surprised.
Next up - OBL will be their hero.
Nothing surprises me with these Libberhoid assholes