Socialism-the BIGGEST plight/failure to this world, EVER.

[Neotrotsky]

Neo, there is no such thing as "statism" in the real world. Modern technology and communications have centralized societal, political, social, and cultural interactions. That requires a growth in the control of energy sources and a demand for quicker, surer, more effective services, both government and business.

We are never going back to pre-World War I society unless an apocalyptic event occurs. I don't think you would like that world very much.

Let's see....

def.

the theory or practice of concentrating economic and political power in the state, resulting in a weak position for the individual or community with respect to the government


Let's see, lets start alphabetically,

Chad
China
Cuba,
Iran
Libya,
Myanmar,
North Korea,
Somalia,
Sudan,
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan.

No you are correct Jake, there is NO such thing as statism..


As for technology, the many modern choices of today have actually helped in "decentralizing" things like information
Years ago, it was the three major networks-only

Who said anything about going back to Pre-WWI?

 

[JakeStarkey]

A false definition that does not mimic real word conditions such as Russia, USA, or other major nations.

What you are hiding are the owners of the media outlets. Check em out for us.

 

[Neotrotsky]

A false definition that does not mimic real word conditions such as Russia, USA, or other major nations.

What you are hiding are the owners of the media outlets. Check em out for us.

In the real world Jake

Something is not false simply because you think it is....


A definition by itself is almost like a mathematical identity-
The statement by itself is not really "false".

However, one may not think it is valid
e.g. liberals equals one who loves government

Now you may believe that statement not to be valid or you may believe it to be valid.


So, you may believe the most common and accepted definition of statism not to be valid- fine
(I assume you understand that definition is saying "resulting" and not referring to "any" in terms of the amount on concentration)


But to really make the definition not valid in the complete or global sense and
support the validity of your prior statement of - "there is no such thing as "statism" in the real world"

you would have to show, that with political and economic power concentrated in the state, the individual would NEVER be put into a weak position.

Please explain or show some examples

good luck with that

 

[rdean]

Jesus was a socialist. He threw the capitalists out of his father's church.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Jesus was a socialist. He threw the capitalists out of his father's church.

And a community organizer

Of course, so was Hitler

 

[JakeStarkey]

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[Mr. Shaman]

Tally up ALL those killed by the far-left Socialist regimes of Hitler, every regime in the U.S.S.R., Mao, various past Socialist regimes of Latin America. not to mention every war they started. WW2, Vietnam, etc. And you get Satan's own personal masturbatory aid collage.

Yeah.....let's try to forget about
Imperialism.
(Later rebranded Exceptionalism)​

February 13, 1601

John Lancaster Leads 1st East India Company Voyage From London.​

"The East India Company traded mainly in cotton, silk, indigo dye, salt , saltpetre, tea and opium. The Company also came to rule large areas of India, exercising military power and assuming administrative functions.

In the 18th century, Britain had a huge trade deficit with Qing Dynasty China and so in 1773, the Company created a British monopoly on opium buying in Bengal. As the opium trade was illegal in China, Company ships could not carry opium to China. So the opium produced in Bengal was sold in Calcutta on condition that it be sent to China."

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"Other partners and captains included Joseph Taylor Gilman, William Henry King, John Alsop Griswold, Captain Lovett and Captain J. Prescott. Captain Prescott called on his friend and agent in Hong Kong F.T. Bush, Esq. frequently."

The Boodle Boys​

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[MikeK]

Tally up ALL those killed by the far-left Socialist regimes of Hitler, every regime in the U.S.S.R., Mao, various past Socialist regimes of Latin America. [...]

In spite of the what the acronym deceptively stands for (Nationalsozialismus) Hitler and the Nazi regime were far from being anything close to socialist. Nazism was a militaristic totalitarian dictatorship -- as was Stalinism (USSR).

Socialism is not what today's corporatist Republicans want you to believe it is. While I don't believe the U.S. is adaptable to a fully implemented form of socialist government, if you'd care to research it a bit you will find that Denmark, a socialist nation, is considered the "happiest" country in the world.

The U.S. is best suited to function with a capitalist economy. But in the interests of its people there must be certain socialist controls over the distribution of the Nation's wealth and the practices of our government. Otherwise we will quickly devolve into fascism, which is the direction we are headed in now.

A rose is a rose and by any other name would smell as sweet.