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I probably should consider getting a flu shot, as I live with a pre-schooler and a nurse, but I won't.
It's not that I have any fears about the safety of the vaccine, I'm just lazy.
Maybe if I get the flu this year, I'll get one next year.
Get flu shots. It's the right thing to do, not just for you, but for humanity. It slows down the spread, it interrupts the mutation rate, it's a good thing.
NO. It's a bad idea. I would be a horrible and irresponsible parent if I did.
FDA admits in court case that vaccines still contain mercury
http://www.naturalnews.com/035432_vaccines_mercury_court_case.html#
You should check what is in your flu shot. Hardly anyone does.
http://dr-king.com/docs/110915_PGKReviewOfUSSubmissionToUNEP_b.pdf
I prefer to follow that money.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/060215vaccinesmercurydangers
The Man Behind The Vaccine Mystery"Just before President Bush signed the homeland security bill into law an unknown member of Congress inserted a provision into the legislation that blocks lawsuits against the maker of a controversial [mercury-based] vaccine preservative called "thimerosal," used in vaccines that are given to children."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/12/eveningnews/main532886.shtml
So how many people have died from mercury poisoning attributable to flu vaccines?
oh yeah, none.
How many have died of influenza?
You may take your stupid ass over to the conspiracy theory forum now. Good bye.
How many have died of influenza?
Jacksons findings showed that outside of flu season, the baseline risk of death among people who did not get vaccinated was approximately 60 percent higher than among those who did, lending support to the hypothesis that on average, healthy people chose to get the vaccine, while the frail elderly didnt or couldnt. In fact, the healthy-user effect explained the entire benefit that other researchers were attributing to flu vaccine, suggesting that the vaccine itself might not reduce mortality at all. Jacksons papers are beautiful, says Lone Simonsen, who is a professor of global health at George Washington University, in Washington, D.C., and an internationally recognized expert in influenza and vaccine epidemiology. They are classic studies in epidemiology, they are so carefully done.
The results were also so unexpected that many experts simply refused to believe them. Jacksons papers were turned down for publication in the top-ranked medical journals. One flu expert who reviewed her studies for the Journal of the American Medical Association wrote, To accept these results would be to say that the earth is flat! When the papers were finally published in 2006, in the less prominent International Journal of Epidemiology, they were largely ignored by doctors and public-health officials. The answer I got, says Jackson, was not the right answer.
Everyone I know gets their flu shot each year and they bug the heck out of me because I refuse to get one.
I have never gotten the flu and don't want to jinx myself by getting the shot.
Because I know sure as heck if I get the shot; I will come down with the flu. ...
Me too.
Yeah, conspiracy theorist.
Read up on the influenza epidemics..that no longer decimate a huge percentage of our population, thanks to the vaccines.
Meanwhile, from your own source:
"Jacksons findings showed that outside of flu season, the baseline risk of death among people who did not get vaccinated was approximately 60 percent higher than among those who did."
They do work, they do save lives.
If you are willing to take one for the team, go for it. You will not find people in the medical field who subscribe to your particular brand of lunacy. They know it works, they see it work, and they understand how it works. And so do I. Try to avoid the anti-pharmaceutical nut sites if you can in the future, maybe you'll be taken more seriously. And while you can go ahead and think you're schooling me re: logical fallacy, you're just making an idiot of yourself when you do it. Yes, I aced Critical Thinking. And biology, and every college English/lit/composition/writing class I ever enrolled in. Save it for your stoner buddies who think you're special.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirin#HistoryThe popularity of aspirin grew over the first half of the 20th century, spurred by its supposed effectiveness in the wake of the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918. However, recent research suggests the high death toll of the 1918 flu was partly due to aspirin, as the doses used at times can lead to toxicity, fluid in the lungs, and, in some cases, contribute to secondary bacterial infections and mortality.[145] Aspirin's profitability led to fierce competition and the proliferation of aspirin brands and products, especially after the American patent held by Bayer expired in 1917. [146][147]
Meanwhile, from your own source:
"Jacksons findings showed that outside of flu season, the baseline risk of death among people who did not get vaccinated was approximately 60 percent higher than among those who did."
i realized i was going to work the october fest....and would be exposed to people all over the southeast.....so we went to get the flu shots last night...it hurt
o i have had that shot a few times...use to be every 10 years or so you had to get one...now they are saying....o you have had plenty dont worry about it...seems they last for a life time now?
Yeah, conspiracy theorist.
Read up on the influenza epidemics..that no longer decimate a huge percentage of our population, thanks to the vaccines.
Meanwhile, from your own source:
"Jacksons findings showed that outside of flu season, the baseline risk of death among people who did not get vaccinated was approximately 60 percent higher than among those who did."
They do work, they do save lives.
If you are willing to take one for the team, go for it. You will not find people in the medical field who subscribe to your particular brand of lunacy. They know it works, they see it work, and they understand how it works. And so do I. Try to avoid the anti-pharmaceutical nut sites if you can in the future, maybe you'll be taken more seriously. And while you can go ahead and think you're schooling me re: logical fallacy, you're just making an idiot of yourself when you do it. Yes, I aced Critical Thinking. And biology, and every college English/lit/composition/writing class I ever enrolled in. Save it for your stoner buddies who think you're special.
I don't know what, "anti-pharmaceutical" site you are talking about. And even if such site did exist, do you not agree that being skeptical of the motives of a muliti-billion dollar industry is a good thing?
There are no such things as, "flu pandemics." Turn off your TV. There has only ever been one "flu pandemic," and that was the Spanish flu of 19181920. If you had bothered to read about the flu and educate yourself, you would know that at this time, aspirin had just come in to use in the wider population, and it was widely abused.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirin#HistoryThe popularity of aspirin grew over the first half of the 20th century, spurred by its supposed effectiveness in the wake of the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918. However, recent research suggests the high death toll of the 1918 flu was partly due to aspirin, as the doses used at times can lead to toxicity, fluid in the lungs, and, in some cases, contribute to secondary bacterial infections and mortality.[145] Aspirin's profitability led to fierce competition and the proliferation of aspirin brands and products, especially after the American patent held by Bayer expired in 1917. [146][147]
Other than that, most so called, "flu pandemics?" really only kill a million or so people. Considering that population of the earth to be some 6 billion, this is all hype to sell an unproven technology that has been shown to have less efficacy than the well know ancient elderberry treatment. That treatment has been studied and shown to have even more proven results that both Tamiflu and the vaccine. Scientists and the public know it to work. But you know, there isn't a whole lot of money in it, so the majority of the people don't know it is your best defense, better than the vaccine.
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20031222/elderberry-fights-flu-symptoms
Meanwhile, from your own source:
"Jacksons findings showed that outside of flu season, the baseline risk of death among people who did not get vaccinated was approximately 60 percent higher than among those who did."
You clearly did not read the article. What that segment I quoted meant, is that it did not matter if the people that were chronically unhealthy had the vaccine or not, their percentage chance of mortality was roughly equal.
People that tended to have healthy habits, regarding cleanliness, taking care of themselves, exercising, paying attention to nutrition, etc, had lower mortality rates.
The only two things your post proves to me is that one, you did not read the article, and two, you do not know how to comprehend what you read if you did.
Lastly, refer to my previous post in regards to your methods of discussing this topic. Just because you are well educated, have jumped through the hoops of the foundation controlled education system, and did everything they told you, does not mean you learned how to think. When you have nothing, abusing the messenger is usually the last refuge of a desperate person.
I have never had a Flu Shot in my 47 years & have been just fine so I do not intend to ever get one. Many of my extended family got them & weeks later got every strain of the Flu that their shot was supposed to prevent. They went & got tested which proved they had the same strains of Flu as the vaccine contained. Catching one strain is bad enough, but being intentionally infected by both strains at the same time had to be tortured hell.
It is just another money making scam foisted on the unsuspecting public. Our "healthcare" system will do anything to keep you coming back for more. Every doctor visit ends with an attempt to schedule you for a "follow-up appointment".
If you are in good health, going into a den of infection for "preventive care" is going to relieve you of a lot of your hard earned wealth.
I have never had a Flu Shot in my 47 years & have been just fine so I do not intend to ever get one. Many of my extended family got them & weeks later got every strain of the Flu that their shot was supposed to prevent. They went & got tested which proved they had the same strains of Flu as the vaccine contained. Catching one strain is bad enough, but being intentionally infected by both strains at the same time had to be tortured hell.
It is just another money making scam foisted on the unsuspecting public. Our "healthcare" system will do anything to keep you coming back for more. Every doctor visit ends with an attempt to schedule you for a "follow-up appointment".
If you are in good health, going into a den of infection for "preventive care" is going to relieve you of a lot of your hard earned wealth.
Yeah, I've never had tetanus or rabies.....but that doesn't mean there's no risk. That's a poor argument for not getting a flu vaccination. You've never been exposed to the virulent viruses that come primarily from pigs and birds from Asia. Good for you. Trust me, it doesn't mean that the baby next door couldn't catch it and die.
