So, I turned on Fox News for the first time since Tuesday

[beretta304]

We desperately need term limits and publically financed campaigns

Holy CRAP, someone who agrees with me.

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You are far from alone. It may not have come up here recently but I have been a fan of both for a long time.

 

[WillowTree]

Primetime line up.

All I'm hearing is throwbacks to the republican politicians of the 60's thru 80's.

I'm hearing hosts who for some reason think we are still in the old days when whitey ruled the political scene and everyone that voted voted on two or three issues.

Times have changed people. Demographics have changed even more. What fucking part of that are you not getting? Everyone is acting like its a bad thing to broaden our base.

We don't have to give away the kitchen sink to appeal to more people. And if you think we do then we're doomed as a nation anyways.

Aspouse our core fiscal issues and leave the damn social issues in the bedroom.

Secondly EVERYONE should support MAJOR campaign finance reform. All this money corrupts our system.

I'm just really dismayed at the reaction many are having to our loss. Its only the end of the world if we don't learn from our mistakes.

I refuse to have a meltdown over this. But you go right ahead. Fact is you should probably just cross over and become a liberal.

 

[Mac1958]

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... and the great inter-party battle begins.

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[WillowTree]

Primetime line up.

All I'm hearing is throwbacks to the republican politicians of the 60's thru 80's.

I'm hearing hosts who for some reason think we are still in the old days when whitey ruled the political scene and everyone that voted voted on two or three issues.

Times have changed people. Demographics have changed even more. What fucking part of that are you not getting? Everyone is acting like its a bad thing to broaden our base.

We don't have to give away the kitchen sink to appeal to more people. And if you think we do then we're doomed as a nation anyways.

Aspouse our core fiscal issues and leave the damn social issues in the bedroom.

Secondly EVERYONE should support MAJOR campaign finance reform. All this money corrupts our system.

I'm just really dismayed at the reaction many are having to our loss. Its only the end of the world if we don't learn from our mistakes.

HOW are you not getting this?
There's either one of two things going on. Either every "demographic" is racist and hates "whitey" for the sake of hating "whitey", or they're responding to the outright BRIBERY of Democrats. We're not going to compete with them on those terms unless we're likewise willing to raid our already empty treasury.

Now, I'll give you the point on social issues. I don't care if two homos fuck each other blue and call it marriage. And really, I've come to peace with the idea that libs destroying their offspring is doing the rest of us a fucking favor. The last thing we need in this world is more idiots. But this whole "appeal to the demographics" bullshit is about greed. What's the point of winning an election if you're as corrupt and immoral as the guy you're trying to beat? At that point, there really ISN'T any difference between the parties.

The problem is education. These idiots don't understand that the Gravy Train is going over the cliff with them on it. And they don't understand that they're giving up their innate, natural rights in exchange for crumbs doled out by the political class.

exactly!

 

[WillowTree]

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... and the great inter-party battle begins.

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It won't be an inter party battle, because Gramps is going to become a democrat. He feels somehow dejected that the democrats were successful in engaging in their class warfare, racial warfare, economic warfare, I'm not going to engage in that if it means Republicans aren't in power for a thousand years.

 

[SniperFire]

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... and the great inter-party battle begins.

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It won't be an inter party battle, because Gramps is going to become a democrat. He feels somehow dejected that the democrats were successful in engaging in their class warfare, racial warfare, economic warfare, I'm not going to engage in that if it means Republicans aren't in power for a thousand years.

Class warfare politics which divides us and panders based on greed and envy is anathema to freedom and opportunity, and is decidedly unAmerican.

You think someone old enough to call himself 'Gramps' and post in political forums as a conservative would understand that.

 

[beretta304]

This is just another political cycle which now seems to be an 8 year one. One party gets it's shot for 8 years then everyone gets fed up and the other party ends up in office.

A new party is what we need built from the ground up. Will it happen? Unlikely since both current parties will squash it with corporate support.

 

[pinqy]

We have 23 million unemployed AMERICANS. Why should we give work visas to illegal aliens?

No we don't. There are approx 11.7 million people unemployed in the US (not seasonally adjusted). 1.88 million of them are foreign born...it's not asked what their current citizenship status is. Did you really thing the Unemployment data only tracked US citizens?

 

[Mac1958]

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... and the great inter-party battle begins.

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It won't be an inter party battle, because Gramps is going to become a democrat. He feels somehow dejected that the democrats were successful in engaging in their class warfare, racial warfare, economic warfare, I'm not going to engage in that if it means Republicans aren't in power for a thousand years.

If socially moderate voters don't vote GOP, do you really think the GOP is going to be a legitimate party going forward?

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[Rocko]

Primetime line up.

All I'm hearing is throwbacks to the republican politicians of the 60's thru 80's.

I'm hearing hosts who for some reason think we are still in the old days when whitey ruled the political scene and everyone that voted voted on two or three issues.

Times have changed people. Demographics have changed even more. What fucking part of that are you not getting? Everyone is acting like its a bad thing to broaden our base.

We don't have to give away the kitchen sink to appeal to more people. And if you think we do then we're doomed as a nation anyways.

Aspouse our core fiscal issues and leave the damn social issues in the bedroom.

Secondly EVERYONE should support MAJOR campaign finance reform. All this money corrupts our system.

I'm just really dismayed at the reaction many are having to our loss. Its only the end of the world if we don't learn from our mistakes.

Everytime we lose an election they say Republicans need to be more inclusive to blacks and hispanics. I'm sick of hearing that shit. We shouldn't have to play divisive politics and pander to any race or ethnicity.

 

[WillowTree]

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... and the great inter-party battle begins.

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It won't be an inter party battle, because Gramps is going to become a democrat. He feels somehow dejected that the democrats were successful in engaging in their class warfare, racial warfare, economic warfare, I'm not going to engage in that if it means Republicans aren't in power for a thousand years.

If socially moderate voters don't vote GOP, do you really think the GOP is going to be a legitimate party going forward?

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don't care! when the GOP falls and the money runs out the democrats and their taker people are in for a world of hurt. I hope you can handle it.

 

[WillowTree]

Primetime line up.

All I'm hearing is throwbacks to the republican politicians of the 60's thru 80's.

I'm hearing hosts who for some reason think we are still in the old days when whitey ruled the political scene and everyone that voted voted on two or three issues.

Times have changed people. Demographics have changed even more. What fucking part of that are you not getting? Everyone is acting like its a bad thing to broaden our base.

We don't have to give away the kitchen sink to appeal to more people. And if you think we do then we're doomed as a nation anyways.

Aspouse our core fiscal issues and leave the damn social issues in the bedroom.

Secondly EVERYONE should support MAJOR campaign finance reform. All this money corrupts our system.

I'm just really dismayed at the reaction many are having to our loss. Its only the end of the world if we don't learn from our mistakes.

Everytime we lose an election they say Republicans need to be more inclusive to blacks and hispanics. I'm sick of hearing that shit. We shouldn't have to play divisive politics and pander to any race or ethnicity.

That's what I mean by racial warfare. Did they not see the lineup at the RNC? Sure they did. Know what their evil c**t response was? "You can't just take a brown skin person and throw them on the stage and call it diversity." Mother fucking racists. What a total disrespect of Sen. Rubio. Fuck the democrats.

 

[Mac1958]

It won't be an inter party battle, because Gramps is going to become a democrat. He feels somehow dejected that the democrats were successful in engaging in their class warfare, racial warfare, economic warfare, I'm not going to engage in that if it means Republicans aren't in power for a thousand years.

If socially moderate voters don't vote GOP, do you really think the GOP is going to be a legitimate party going forward?

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don't care! when the GOP falls and the money runs out the democrats and their taker people are in for a world of hurt. I hope you can handle it.

Yeah, me too. But you're talking about money, not social issues. That's my point.

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[WillowTree]

If socially moderate voters don't vote GOP, do you really think the GOP is going to be a legitimate party going forward?

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don't care! when the GOP falls and the money runs out the democrats and their taker people are in for a world of hurt. I hope you can handle it.

Yeah, me too. But you're talking about money, not social issues. That's my point.

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oh you mean should we murder our babies? I think so cause we damn sure won't be able to feed em.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans do not need to change that much. They just need to mellow out

Calm down the rhetoric, stop the hate speech, lay off social issues

A kinder, gentler Republican Party can win

 

[Seawytch]

We desperately need term limits and publically financed campaigns

Agree with publicly financed elections...or at least some serious limits on donations. Sure, we've had a few elections recently that proved that you can't buy your way into office, but it is the buying once you get into office that concerns me.

Disagree with term limits. We have term limits...they're called elections.

Stop the gerrymandering of districts.

 

[Rocko]

The republican party didn't fail. Americans failed, but sooner or later voting for free stuff catches up with you. Hopefully we'll wake up before we're Greece.

 

[beretta304]

We desperately need term limits and publically financed campaigns

Agree with publicly financed elections...or at least some serious limits on donations. Sure, we've had a few elections recently that proved that you can't buy your way into office, but it is the buying once you get into office that concerns me.

Disagree with term limits. We have term limits...they're called elections.

Stop the gerrymandering of districts.

Imagine what could have been done with the money spent on this election.

 

[WillowTree]

Republicans do not need to change that much. They just need to mellow out

Calm down the rhetoric, stop the hate speech, lay off social issues

A kinder, gentler Republican Party can win

Nope, the takers will make sure they don't. Aren't you happy? It's what you've wanted for the four years I've known you. Congratulations are in order.

 

[Steelplate]

How exactly is the GOP supposed to start including women, Latinos and blacks? Every time a minority Republican runs for office they are immediately demonized and destroyed by any means necessary by the media and the Dems.

The only way the Democrat party can survive is making sure the Republican Party remains the perceived party of whites. They cannot tolerate the GOP getting large votes of minorities. This is why they went balistic against Palin and Herman Cain.

Allen West.. need I say more?

Guys....it's not the color.....it's the positions you guys have.

Why in the hell would a black vote for your candidates if all they hear from your side is talk about welfare moms....Obama's gonna pay my gas bill!....vitriol about folks on welfare having 60" flat screens. etc? There's only 12 Million African Americans in the entire country.....chances are most of them either are one of the people you are demonizing or know someone who is.

Why would a Hispanic vote for your candidates.when you are ready to kick all the ones who are here illegally out....including their kids who might even be born here?

Why would you have broadbase support of women when you have people like Murdouch(sp?) and Akin saying the crap that they did....or suggest that women use an aspirin between their knees for birth control?

Why would anyone of a different religion vote for you when all you do is tear them down?

Why would the elderly and soon to be elderly vote for you when you continually bluster and threaten to blow up SS and Medicare?

You don't offer reasonable solutions to these issues....you go to extremes and speak in hate filled rhetoric(makers vs. takers, etc).

THAT'S the problem with the modern day GOP. and it's why I left.

EDIT: And lastly....why would ANY public sector employee vote for one of your candidates when you want us on the unemployment line and our pensions voided?