So Conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians are in fact, Nazis

[Neotrotsky]

I know enough about semantics and the English language to recognize mutually exclusive terms when I see them.

They're not mutually exclusive. They're actually anarchists.

Now if you want mutually exclusive contradicting terms, go for anarcho-capitalism.

It could be a matter of opinion

Though I would agree with NOLA and Oddball

The statist goals of socialism involves giving up a lot, if not all, property rights (a political right), to the state.

The disruption of this right requires the truncation of many other political rights for the state to complete their goals.

 

[Woyzeck]

Indeed, how can one be a Libertarian and a Socialist?

You cannot.

The former abhors the proactive use of force, while the latter is entirely dependent upon it.

The people who by into the Chomsky-ite "libertarian socialism" con are flat out rubes.

I'd hate to have your stark black/white world view.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Indeed, how can one be a Libertarian and a Socialist?

You cannot.

The former abhors the proactive use of force, while the latter is entirely dependent upon it.

The people who buy into the Chomsky-ite "libertarian socialism" con are flat out rubes.

I'd hate to have your stark black/white world view.

What's wrong with a little reality? YOU should try it.

 

[Woyzeck]

You cannot.

The former abhors the proactive use of force, while the latter is entirely dependent upon it.

The people who buy into the Chomsky-ite "libertarian socialism" con are flat out rubes.

I'd hate to have your stark black/white world view.

What's wrong with a little reality? YOU should try it.

I'd recommend the same thing for you. Anarchists were the original libertarians.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I'd hate to have your stark black/white world view.

What's wrong with a little reality? YOU should try it.

I'd recommend the same thing for you. Anarchists were the original libertarians.

Anarchists? I though we were discussing religious Atheists, uhm, sorry, Libertarian Socialists.

 

[rdean]

This is tongue in cheek folks. It's a parody of what extremist views run amok, can lead to. Someone else started a thread stating that Democrats are all Socialist. Did he back it up with specifics? Cite sources? Even bother to define what "Socialism" is or what he means by it? Nope.
But I will. Ironically, the biggest Nazi Party in America is not the American Nazi Party but rather, The National Socialist Movement - which is 100% Nazi. What are their stances on the issues?

Nazis are violently opposed to Obama - no matter what he does. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis blame America's problems on illegal immigrants - even problems that are obviously unrelated. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the "Papers Please" policy throughout the US. This is the one, galvanizing political issue which is giving the large and smaller Nazi groups momentum. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the government to have control over killing the living (i.e. death penalty)but they also want the government to have control over a woman's body (i.e. they are for overturning Roe v. Wade). Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are VERY into the Right to Bear Arms - even auto weapons, or in bars or on school grounds. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are very clear that America is a Christian Nation. JuJust like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are offended that any language other than English is used in businesses etc... let alone schools. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

They hate Jews most but ... The Nazis hate Muslims, consider ALL of them to be a threat to America and whether they have ever known one personally or studied the Koran, they claim to "know" what it is all about. Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

The Nazis feel that homosexuality is either a choice or a "disease" that should be cured or eliminated. Obviously not people who should the rights of "Normal" people.
Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

Now guess what? I know lots of Conservatives who are very fine, loving, hard-working compassionate people. I dont believe Conservative are Nazis. But as opposed to the extremist who label all LibDems as being socialist, I can cite several local chapters and candidates from the GOP AND Libertarian parties who agree with all or almost all of these...... Nazi positions.
It doesn't mean they're Nazis. Any more than LibDems are Socialists.

Okay. THAT will stir up the pot a bit! Have fun with this one..

Don't forget that Nazi's were all white.

 

[Woyzeck]

What's wrong with a little reality? YOU should try it.

I'd recommend the same thing for you. Anarchists were the original libertarians.

Anarchists? I though we were discussing religious Atheists, uhm, sorry, Libertarian Socialists.

If you actually knew what libertarian socialism was, you'd know they were the same thing. It's why I asked if Oddball knew what it was.

 

[Oddball]

Don't forget that Nazi's were all white.

No sooner do I say the word "rube" and look who comes strolling in!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

This is tongue in cheek folks. It's a parody of what extremist views run amok, can lead to. Someone else started a thread stating that Democrats are all Socialist. Did he back it up with specifics? Cite sources? Even bother to define what "Socialism" is or what he means by it? Nope.
But I will. Ironically, the biggest Nazi Party in America is not the American Nazi Party but rather, The National Socialist Movement - which is 100% Nazi. What are their stances on the issues?

Nazis are violently opposed to Obama - no matter what he does. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis blame America's problems on illegal immigrants - even problems that are obviously unrelated. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the "Papers Please" policy throughout the US. This is the one, galvanizing political issue which is giving the large and smaller Nazi groups momentum. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the government to have control over killing the living (i.e. death penalty)but they also want the government to have control over a woman's body (i.e. they are for overturning Roe v. Wade). Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are VERY into the Right to Bear Arms - even auto weapons, or in bars or on school grounds. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are very clear that America is a Christian Nation. JuJust like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are offended that any language other than English is used in businesses etc... let alone schools. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

They hate Jews most but ... The Nazis hate Muslims, consider ALL of them to be a threat to America and whether they have ever known one personally or studied the Koran, they claim to "know" what it is all about. Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

The Nazis feel that homosexuality is either a choice or a "disease" that should be cured or eliminated. Obviously not people who should the rights of "Normal" people.
Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

Now guess what? I know lots of Conservatives who are very fine, loving, hard-working compassionate people. I dont believe Conservative are Nazis. But as opposed to the extremist who label all LibDems as being socialist, I can cite several local chapters and candidates from the GOP AND Libertarian parties who agree with all or almost all of these...... Nazi positions.
It doesn't mean they're Nazis. Any more than LibDems are Socialists.

Okay. THAT will stir up the pot a bit! Have fun with this one..

Don't forget that Nazi's were all white.

Leave it to Deaniac to chime in completely off-point and with something utterly ridiculous.

 

[Oddball]

Indeed, how can one be a Libertarian and a Socialist?

You cannot.

The former abhors the proactive use of force, while the latter is entirely dependent upon it.

The people who by into the Chomsky-ite "libertarian socialism" con are flat out rubes.

I'd hate to have your stark black/white world view.

I'd hate to be as gullible a bumpkin as you.

 

[Neotrotsky]

This is tongue in cheek folks. It's a parody of what extremist views run amok, can lead to. Someone else started a thread stating that Democrats are all Socialist. Did he back it up with specifics? Cite sources? Even bother to define what "Socialism" is or what he means by it? Nope.
But I will. Ironically, the biggest Nazi Party in America is not the American Nazi Party but rather, The National Socialist Movement - which is 100% Nazi. What are their stances on the issues?

Nazis are violently opposed to Obama - no matter what he does. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis blame America's problems on illegal immigrants - even problems that are obviously unrelated. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the "Papers Please" policy throughout the US. This is the one, galvanizing political issue which is giving the large and smaller Nazi groups momentum. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the government to have control over killing the living (i.e. death penalty)but they also want the government to have control over a woman's body (i.e. they are for overturning Roe v. Wade). Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are VERY into the Right to Bear Arms - even auto weapons, or in bars or on school grounds. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are very clear that America is a Christian Nation. JuJust like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are offended that any language other than English is used in businesses etc... let alone schools. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

They hate Jews most but ... The Nazis hate Muslims, consider ALL of them to be a threat to America and whether they have ever known one personally or studied the Koran, they claim to "know" what it is all about. Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

The Nazis feel that homosexuality is either a choice or a "disease" that should be cured or eliminated. Obviously not people who should the rights of "Normal" people.
Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

Now guess what? I know lots of Conservatives who are very fine, loving, hard-working compassionate people. I dont believe Conservative are Nazis. But as opposed to the extremist who label all LibDems as being socialist, I can cite several local chapters and candidates from the GOP AND Libertarian parties who agree with all or almost all of these...... Nazi positions.
It doesn't mean they're Nazis. Any more than LibDems are Socialists.

Okay. THAT will stir up the pot a bit! Have fun with this one..

Don't forget that Nazi's were all white.

and

Socialists

 

[Contumacious]

Nazis, Republicans and some Libertarians are Authoritarians.

Same Genus, different Species.

Hilarious. Libertarians are the opposite of "authoritarian," and what could be more authoritarian than an ideology that says government should make all the major decisions for society and for you personally?

Liberals are alaways trying to paint their opposition with their own faults.

No one's buying it but the congenitally naive.

So what do you think of libertarian socialism?

Bullshit nonsense.

.

 

[Contumacious]

]The rest of the world knows socialism is democratic and helps people, [/B]communism ALWAYS totalitarian and a failure. At this point 60% of the USA are sorely misled by the Pub propaganda machine: what is socialism, global warming, health reform, actual wealth numbers, etc, etc...

OK, then stay in Warsaw.

.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Hilarious. Libertarians are the opposite of "authoritarian," and what could be more authoritarian than an ideology that says government should make all the major decisions for society and for you personally?

Liberals are alaways trying to paint their opposition with their own faults.

No one's buying it but the congenitally naive.

So what do you think of libertarian socialism?

Bullshit nonsense.

.

Wait a minute , lets run with this one


Think about it, the Left political class would prefer people dumb , drugged up and constantly
busy seeking any pleasure they want to amuse themselves. (libertarian)

At the same time, this leaves the political class free to increase their power and wealth
at the expense of the people's basic rights, like property. (socialism)

This would almost be like the "Bread and Circuses" policy of the decaying Roman Empire

I think it works

 

[Patrick2]

Nazis, Republicans and some Libertarians are Authoritarians.

Same Genus, different Species.

Libertarians are authoritarians, huh?

Like saying shit is ice cream.

Depends on the kind of libertarian, I suspect Pat.

Objective Libertarianism advocates a kind of corporate neo-feudalism tyranny by capital. (Mussolini advocated just such a system only he called it Fascism)

These radical Libertarians deny the very existence of society claiming instead that individuals are all there is, and that the concept of society is a delusion advanced by totalitarians.

You can find this or that odd person who utterly departs from his self-applied label - undoubtedly somewhere there's a free market democrat. Liberty is in the warp and woof of libertarianism.

Calling conservatives authoritarian simply stands reality on its head. Who created the big welfare entitlements? Who EAGERLY supports big taxes? Who supports profound interference in the market? Who insists every company and other organization be carefully racially "balanced"? Who tries to suppress the first and second amendments to the constitution? Who enacted the healthcare takeover? Who supports hyper-regulation?

 

[Moonglow]

Libertarians are authoritarians, huh?

Like saying shit is ice cream.

Depends on the kind of libertarian, I suspect Pat.

Objective Libertarianism advocates a kind of corporate neo-feudalism tyranny by capital. (Mussolini advocated just such a system only he called it Fascism)

These radical Libertarians deny the very existence of society claiming instead that individuals are all there is, and that the concept of society is a delusion advanced by totalitarians.

You can find this or that odd person who utterly departs from his self-applied label - undoubtedly somewhere there's a free market democrat. Liberty is in the warp and woof of libertarianism.

Calling conservatives authoritarian simply stands reality on its head. Who created the big welfare entitlements? Who EAGERLY supports big taxes? Who supports profound interference in the market? Who insists every company and other organization be carefully racially "balanced"? Who tries to suppress the first and second amendments to the constitution? Who enacted the healthcare takeover? Who supports hyper-regulation?

republicans and democrats voted to pass these measures in Congress and the state legislatures.

 

[IndependntLogic]

This is tongue in cheek folks. It's a parody of what extremist views run amok, can lead to. Someone else started a thread stating that Democrats are all Socialist. Did he back it up with specifics? Cite sources? Even bother to define what "Socialism" is or what he means by it? Nope.
But I will. Ironically, the biggest Nazi Party in America is not the American Nazi Party but rather, The National Socialist Movement - which is 100% Nazi. What are their stances on the issues?

Nazis are violently opposed to Obama - no matter what he does. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis blame America's problems on illegal immigrants - even problems that are obviously unrelated. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the "Papers Please" policy throughout the US. This is the one, galvanizing political issue which is giving the large and smaller Nazi groups momentum. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the government to have control over killing the living (i.e. death penalty)but they also want the government to have control over a woman's body (i.e. they are for overturning Roe v. Wade). Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are VERY into the Right to Bear Arms - even auto weapons, or in bars or on school grounds. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are very clear that America is a Christian Nation. JuJust like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are offended that any language other than English is used in businesses etc... let alone schools. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

They hate Jews most but ... The Nazis hate Muslims, consider ALL of them to be a threat to America and whether they have ever known one personally or studied the Koran, they claim to "know" what it is all about. Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

The Nazis feel that homosexuality is either a choice or a "disease" that should be cured or eliminated. Obviously not people who should the rights of "Normal" people.
Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

Now guess what? I know lots of Conservatives who are very fine, loving, hard-working compassionate people. I dont believe Conservative are Nazis. But as opposed to the extremist who label all LibDems as being socialist, I can cite several local chapters and candidates from the GOP AND Libertarian parties who agree with all or almost all of these...... Nazi positions.
It doesn't mean they're Nazis. Any more than LibDems are Socialists.

Okay. THAT will stir up the pot a bit! Have fun with this one..

Don't forget that Nazi's were all white.

Seriously? You're going there? Are you like, an oppressed black man or something? Just askin...

 

[Neotrotsky]

It is just rdean

 

[Oddball]

Calling conservatives authoritarian simply stands reality on its head. Who created the big welfare entitlements? Who EAGERLY supports big taxes? Who supports profound interference in the market? Who insists every company and other organization be carefully racially "balanced"? Who tries to suppress the first and second amendments to the constitution? Who enacted the healthcare takeover? Who supports hyper-regulation?

Properly defining so-called "conservatives" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anymore) stands reality squarely on its two feet.

For all their bloviating and bluster to the contrary, the budgets and bureaucracies under "conservative" rule have expanded and bloated just as they have under the custody of the fake "liberals"....In some cases, even more so.

They're two peas in a pod, two sides of the same authoritarian nanny statist coin.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

This is tongue in cheek folks. It's a parody of what extremist views run amok, can lead to. Someone else started a thread stating that Democrats are all Socialist. Did he back it up with specifics? Cite sources? Even bother to define what "Socialism" is or what he means by it? Nope.
But I will. Ironically, the biggest Nazi Party in America is not the American Nazi Party but rather, The National Socialist Movement - which is 100% Nazi. What are their stances on the issues?

Nazis are violently opposed to Obama - no matter what he does. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis blame America's problems on illegal immigrants - even problems that are obviously unrelated. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the "Papers Please" policy throughout the US. This is the one, galvanizing political issue which is giving the large and smaller Nazi groups momentum. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis want the government to have control over killing the living (i.e. death penalty)but they also want the government to have control over a woman's body (i.e. they are for overturning Roe v. Wade). Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are VERY into the Right to Bear Arms - even auto weapons, or in bars or on school grounds. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are very clear that America is a Christian Nation. JuJust like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

The Nazis are offended that any language other than English is used in businesses etc... let alone schools. Just like ConservaRepubs & Libertarians.

They hate Jews most but ... The Nazis hate Muslims, consider ALL of them to be a threat to America and whether they have ever known one personally or studied the Koran, they claim to "know" what it is all about. Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

The Nazis feel that homosexuality is either a choice or a "disease" that should be cured or eliminated. Obviously not people who should the rights of "Normal" people.
Just like ConservaRepubs & SOME Libertarians.

Now guess what? I know lots of Conservatives who are very fine, loving, hard-working compassionate people. I dont believe Conservative are Nazis. But as opposed to the extremist who label all LibDems as being socialist, I can cite several local chapters and candidates from the GOP AND Libertarian parties who agree with all or almost all of these...... Nazi positions.
It doesn't mean they're Nazis. Any more than LibDems are Socialists.

Okay. THAT will stir up the pot a bit! Have fun with this one..

Democrats and Socialism have a long history of coexistence. In fact, if I recall correctly, many Democrats/Socialists/Progressives supported Hitler. I think your thread failed before it got started because you do not properly understand the terms here.

A Socialists believes that the government should supply non public goods.I would love to explain the difference between a public and a non public good, but it is a little hard to pin down without citing examples. The Nazis were actually socialists, and, if not for their racism, would have loved Obama.

Would you like an example of libertarians who support Obama?

Libertarians for Obama

Republicans?

Conservatives for Obama Blog

Even for a tongue in cheek post you are so far off that it is not worth pointing out just how far off you are. To put it in terms Obama would appreciate, you are trying to sink a put for the 18th hole, but your ball is still on the 1st tee.

Dude, like our other friend, you missed a rather significant point. I never said anything about any Germans...

Neither did I, Hitler was an Austrian.