Smith's patience has expired.

[Marener]

The Government -
Is currently a corrupt banana republic.

Okay dude. Whatever.

 

[kyzr]

MSDNC's Jen Psaki had two dem lawyers on her show trying to contort how Smith's new filing has Trump on the ropes.
If she ever had real lawyers on instead of democrat hacks she'd get a better understanding of the law and the USSC.

 

[Billiejeens]

MSDNC's Jen Psaki had two dem lawyers on her show trying to contort how Smith's new filing has Trump on the ropes.
If she ever had real lawyers on instead of democrat hacks she'd get a better understanding of the law and the USSC.

How would that advance her narrative?

 

[kyzr]

How would that advance her narrative?

It wouldn't. That's the point. She's barking up the wrong tree.

I kept wanting to yell, the fucking FBI and the DOJ already looked at J6 and found no Trump incitement.

Smith is a hack. So apparently is Psaki.

 

[BlindBoo]

DOJ already looked at J6 and found no Trump incitement.

Hahahaha.

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DONALD J. TRUMP, Defendant CRIMINAL NO.GRAND JURY ORIGINAL VIOLATIONS: Count 1: 18 U.S.C. § 371(Conspiracy to Defraud the United States) Count 2: 18 U.S.C. § 1512(k)(Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)Count 3: 18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(c)(2), 2(Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)Count 4: 18 U.S.C. § 241(Conspiracy Against Rights)INDICTMENT The Grand Jury charges that, at all times material to this Indictment, on or about the dates and at the approximate times stated below:

https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf

 

[kyzr]

Hahahaha.

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DONALD J. TRUMP, Defendant CRIMINAL NO.GRAND JURY ORIGINAL VIOLATIONS: Count 1: 18 U.S.C. § 371(Conspiracy to Defraud the United States) Count 2: 18 U.S.C. § 1512(k)(Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)Count 3: 18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(c)(2), 2(Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)Count 4: 18 U.S.C. § 241(Conspiracy Against Rights)INDICTMENT The Grand Jury charges that, at all times material to this Indictment, on or about the dates and at the approximate times stated below:

You just proved that the Banana Republic of DC indicted Trump AFTER the FBI said he did nothing wrong by NOT indicting him.

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

www.reuters.com

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack, opens new tab on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

If Trump was guilty of anything J6 related the FBI would have indicted him. They did not.

 

[berg80]

MSDNC's Jen Psaki had two dem lawyers on her show trying to contort how Smith's new filing has Trump on the ropes.
If she ever had real lawyers on instead of democrat hacks she'd get a better understanding of the law and the USSC.

You don't like what they said so they're hacks. Duly noted. Who are they?

 

[SeaMajor7]

You just proved that the Banana Republic of DC indicted Trump AFTER the FBI said he did nothing wrong by NOT indicting him.

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

www.reuters.com

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack, opens new tab on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

If Trump was guilty of anything J6 related the FBI would have indicted him. They did not.

The FBI didn't find any evidence of Insurrection.......because if they went with that, it would be uncovered that THEY WERE COMPLICIT!!!!
Fucking CLOWN WORLD

 

[berg80]

You just proved that the Banana Republic of DC indicted Trump AFTER the FBI said he did nothing wrong by NOT indicting him.

Did nothing wrong? Have you read the indictment?

 

[berg80]

How would that advance her narrative?

She doesn't need a narrative. Smith's excoriating filing of Trump's baseless claim of immunity speaks for itself.

 

[kyzr]

You don't like what they said so they're hacks. Duly noted. Who are they?

"They" are democrat legal hacks, who need to debate GOP legal hacks to see who has the better argument.
I used to like the show "Crossfire" with Pat Buchanan and good democrat debaters.
If I just watch Psaki or Hannity you don't get the fullness of a good debate.
All I can assume is that the democrat's argument's are too weak to stand up to a serious discussion.

Hannity debated Gavin Newsome, and has democrats on frequently.
"The Five" always have democrats in the discussion.
CNN used to have Santorum in the debate, now its just dem talking points.

 

[kyzr]

The FBI didn't find any evidence of Insurrection.......because if they went with that, it would be uncovered that THEY WERE COMPLICIT!!!!
Fucking CLOWN WORLD

The FBI still didn't get the guy on video planting pipe bombs. Wonder why?

 

[kyzr]

Did nothing wrong? Have you read the indictment?

The indictment is bullshit. The original investigation found nothing. We'll see how many of the remaining 88 counts get convictions. Current score of the 91 counts is Trump-3 Opponents-0.

 

[BlindBoo]

You just proved that the Banana Republic of DC indicted Trump AFTER the FBI said he did nothing wrong by NOT indicting him.

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

www.reuters.com

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack, opens new tab on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

If Trump was guilty of anything J6 related the FBI would have indicted him. They did not.

The FBI does not indict, the DOJ does.

The violent riot and assault on the Capitol he inspired on Jan 6th is separate from Benedict Donald's plot to overturn the election. No where in the DOJ indictment is he accused of fomenting the violent acts of his followers as a direct means of overturning the election.

 

[kyzr]

The FBI does not indict, the DOJ does.
The violent riot and assault on the Capitol he inspired on Jan 6th is separate from Benedict Donald's plot to overturn the election. No where in the DOJ indictment is he accused of fomenting the violent acts of his followers as a direct means of overturning the election.

1. True, the DOJ indicts, but the FBI provides the evidence.
2. Change the word "inspired" to "incited" and the indictment falls apart. I'm not sure the Law calls it "inspiring" a riot.
3. There was no "plot to overturn the election" just a candidate wanting to confirm the vote counts.
4. Here is a Legal analysis of Smith's indictment:

Making History in the Wrong Way: The Second Trump Indictment is a Threat to Free Speech

Below is my column in USA Today on the second indictment of former President Donald Trump. While many are celebrating the charges, the implications for free speech are chilling. While Smith did not…

jonathanturley.org

The problem is that Trump had lawyers and others telling him that the claims were true. Smith is indicting Trump for believing his lawyers over his other advisers.
I criticized Trump’s Jan. 6 speech while he was still giving it and wrote that his theory on the election and the certification challenge was unfounded. However, that does not make it a crime.
If you take a red pen to protected free speech in this indictment, it would be reduced to a virtual haiku. Moreover, if you concede that Trump may have believed that the election was stolen, the complaint collapses.

 

[hadit]

Special Counsel Jack Smith Is Done With Judge Aileen Cannon And Lets It Show

In a new filing that bluntly confronts U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, Special Counsel Jack Smith takes a new tone of incredulousness and disdain for her mishandling of the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case.

The issue at hand is her failure to have yet ruled on Donald Trump’s motion to dismiss based on his inane, unprecedented, and counterfactual reading of the Presidential Records Act. Instead of rejecting the argument out of hand, Cannon not only is entertaining it but ordered the two sides to propose jury instructions based on two different deeply flawed interpretations of the PRA.

That set up an nearly impossible challenge for Smith: How do you draft jury instructions that are so wrong on the law without looking like an idiot, undermining your own case, and pissing of the judge?

The answer: You can’t.

So Smith went all in, no longer trying to placate, educate, or hand-hold Cannon.

Smith ripped her interpretations of the PRA: “both of the Court’s scenarios are fundamentally flawed and any jury instructions that reflect those scenarios would be error.” He said her “legal premise is wrong” and her requested jury instructions “would distort the trial.”
Special Counsel Jack Smith Loses Patience With Judge Aileen Cannon

Not a great idea to antagonize a Trump toady but some things need to be done. She's made it clear she is unqualified to be on this case from the standpoint of experience, an understanding of the law, and a lack of impartiality. Good for Smith that he has called her out.

When was he put in control of the proceedings?

 

[hadit]

The cases against the former grifter, and the election are separate entities. I was glad when the Supremes kept DJ on the ballots. He needs his ass kicked fair and square. It's the whole "Trump is living in your head rent free" meme that needs to die.

That's not going to go away as long as Quid Pro Joe's supporters try to blame his actions on TRUMP!, which will continue as long as Quid Pro keeps messing up.

 

[berg80]

"They" are democrat legal hacks, who need to debate GOP legal hacks to see who has the better argument.

As I said, Smith's filing makes their argument for them. Other than Trump's attorneys is there any legal expert defending the idea of presidential immunity as he wants it applied? Even on Faux?

 

[berg80]

When was he put in control of the proceedings?

He wasn't. But he is demanding that Cannon follow the law. Something she has been reprimanded twice for not doing. The fact that she ruled in Smith's favor immediately after his filing tells us all we need to know about her intent. She's on board with Trump's delay tactics.

 

[BlindBoo]

Change the word "inspired" to "incited" and the indictment falls apart.

Benedict Donald is not being indicted for the violence or the riot he inspired on Jan 6th. For example:

"the Defendant,DONALD J. TRUMP, did knowingly combine, conspire, confederate, and agree with co-conspirators, known and unknown to the Grand Jury, to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government"

No mention of the Jan 6th violence his months of spreading lies inspired.