Simple question: If you have a single payer system

[healthmyths]

doesn't that mean JUST ONE payer?
In the case of Obama who like other idiots totally forget the simple fact when they state:
"“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.” ...Barack Obama on single payer in 2003 | Physicians for a National Health Program -


WHAT happens to the 1,300 existing "PAYERS"???
What happens to the $100 billion a year they pay in Federal/state/local taxes if there is a "single payer"?
What happens to the office spaces they pay property taxes on if there is a single payer?
What happens to the 400,000 employees of these 1,300 existing "PAYERS"???

See this is such a perfect example of Obama's socialist tendency and ignorance of insurance,etc. that he like the other idiots preferring "single payer" don't comprehend the "COSTS"!

These companies also have to comply with state insurance regulators to have the reserves to pay future claims.
What are these reserves and where will they go if there is a "single payer" system?

Anyone who understands health insurance, reserves, profits, etc... they know and you think the crash of 1929 was bad???

Most pension plans, 401ks etc. have money in these "PAYERS"... what happens when these "payers" go out out of business because Obama..
“happens to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.”

What then folks???

 

[OKTexas]

This horse is long dead and won't be resurrected without a new senate, so give it a rest already.

 

[American4Americ]

Even communist Hussein realizes that single payer will never happen.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

WHAT happens to the 1,300 existing "PAYERS"???
What happens to the $100 billion a year they pay in Federal/state/local taxes if there is a "single payer"?
What happens to the office spaces they pay property taxes on if there is a single payer?
What happens to the 400,000 employees of these 1,300 existing "PAYERS"???

1. They go into other lines of insurance, if they can.
2. They paid taxes on profits. Now we keep the profits in the system
3. Less property taxes unless we use the space or someone else does.
4. They get other jobs, maybe with the new system? The concept is called Creative Destruction. It means something like a car comes along and suddenly buggy whip makers are few are far between. That's Capitalism and this is government but it means the same thing. The rules changed and now you need a different job. It's normal and no reason to keep a broken system in place.

Single-payer Universal is how you get a bang for your buck. It's Public Healthcare, and it's hardly perfect but the majority will be better off and so will the society that has to pick up the tab. If you are nine and need a liver, you're in luck. If you are 9-months, it might be a toss up. if you are 90, see ya Grandpa. Thanks for the memories. It's realistic, cost-effective, and can be brutal. That's life on this rock.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Even communist Hussein realizes that single payer will never happen.

It's just a matter of time. When it crashes, and it will, that's your only option.

 

[OKTexas]

Even communist Hussein realizes that single payer will never happen.

It's just a matter of time. When it crashes, and it will, that's your only option.

Yep the commies have made sure it will crash, but I think they will be disappointed at the outcome.

 

[Katzndogz]

After the total fiasco of obamacare no one would tolerate giving the government more health care power.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Even communist Hussein realizes that single payer will never happen.

It's just a matter of time. When it crashes, and it will, that's your only option.

Yep the commies have made sure it will crash, but I think they will be disappointed at the outcome.

I'll bite?

 

[Votto]

Even communist Hussein realizes that single payer will never happen.

It's just a matter of time. When it crashes, and it will, that's your only option.

Finally, someone admits it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

After the total fiasco of obamacare no one would tolerate giving the government more health care power.

It has a 1/3rd of the population now and when it crashes another 1/3rd might have nothing. They will take what they are given, in this case, SPU. Stop looking through your ideology glasses. Ayn Rand is not coming back like Jesus.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Even communist Hussein realizes that single payer will never happen.

It's just a matter of time. When it crashes, and it will, that's your only option.

Finally, someone admits it.

The tipping point has been coming for decades. The only question is was it helped? Helped or not, the car going over the cliff was never in question.

 

[Dragonlady]

The rest of the world has single payer and it's far more effective and efficient than your current system. Cheaper too.

A third of your health care $$$ go to administration. Under single payer, it's less than 10%.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The rest of the world has single payer and it's far more effective and efficient than your current system. Cheaper too.

A third of your health care $$$ go to administration. Under single payer, it's less than 10%.

It's the "rest" if you mean modern Western nations. And yes, it's a much better bang for our collective buck.

 

[OKTexas]

The rest of the world has single payer and it's far more effective and efficient than your current system. Cheaper too.

A third of your health care $$$ go to administration. Under single payer, it's less than 10%.

Not even our neighbor to the north has single payer, how does it feel to be WRONG?

 

[auditor0007]

Even communist Hussein realizes that single payer will never happen.

Oh, it's going to happen, but it's still a long way off. No matter what we do, with our current insurance driven system, costs are going to continue to rise. At some point, we are going to reach the breaking point, and then we will get single payer. The stupid thing is that we should already have it. It makes the most sense and is the most cost effective. The only caveat is that we should still leave the system open for private insurance for individuals who choose to pay for it on their own.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The rest of the world has single payer and it's far more effective and efficient than your current system. Cheaper too.

A third of your health care $$$ go to administration. Under single payer, it's less than 10%.

Not even our neighbor to the north has single payer, how does it feel to be WRONG?

Semantics, more than not:

"Health care in Canada

Health care in Canada is delivered through a publicly funded health care system, which is mostly free at the point of use and has most services provided by private entities.[2] It is guided by the provisions of the Canada Health Act of 1984.[3] The government assures the quality of care through federal standards. The government does not participate in day-to-day care or collect any information about an individual's health, which remains confidential between a person and his or her physician.[citation needed] Canada's provincially based Medicare systems are cost-effective partly because of their administrative simplicity. In each province each doctor handles the insurance claim against the provincial insurer. There is no need for the person who accesses health care to be involved in billing and reclaim. Private health expenditure accounts for 30% of health care financing.[4]"

Private sector

"About 27.6% of Canadians' health care is paid for through the private sector. This mostly goes towards services not covered or partially covered by Medicare, such as prescription drugs, dentistry and optometry. Some 75% of Canadians have some form of supplementary private health insurance; many of them receive it through their employers.[40] There are also large private entities that can buy priority access to medical services in Canada, such as WCB in BC."
Health care in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[OKTexas]

Even communist Hussein realizes that single payer will never happen.

Oh, it's going to happen, but it's still a long way off. No matter what we do, with our current insurance driven system, costs are going to continue to rise. At some point, we are going to reach the breaking point, and then we will get single payer. The stupid thing is that we should already have it. It makes the most sense and is the most cost effective. The only caveat is that we should still leave the system open for private insurance for individuals who choose to pay for it on their own.

Either that or we will get the government out of healthcare, the education system, school loans and agriculture and let the markets normalize. Government increases the cost of everything they get involved in.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Even communist Hussein realizes that single payer will never happen.

Oh, it's going to happen, but it's still a long way off. No matter what we do, with our current insurance driven system, costs are going to continue to rise. At some point, we are going to reach the breaking point, and then we will get single payer. The stupid thing is that we should already have it. It makes the most sense and is the most cost effective. The only caveat is that we should still leave the system open for private insurance for individuals who choose to pay for it on their own.

Either that or we will get the government out of healthcare, the education system, school loans and agriculture and let the markets normalize. Government increases the cost of everything they get involved in.

Dream on. That's what it is BTW, that idea, a dream.

 

[bripat9643]

It's just a matter of time. When it crashes, and it will, that's your only option.

Finally, someone admits it.

The tipping point has been coming for decades. The only question is was it helped? Helped or not, the car going over the cliff was never in question.

Obamacare is pushing it over the cliff, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

Oh, it's going to happen, but it's still a long way off. No matter what we do, with our current insurance driven system, costs are going to continue to rise. At some point, we are going to reach the breaking point, and then we will get single payer. The stupid thing is that we should already have it. It makes the most sense and is the most cost effective. The only caveat is that we should still leave the system open for private insurance for individuals who choose to pay for it on their own.

Either that or we will get the government out of healthcare, the education system, school loans and agriculture and let the markets normalize. Government increases the cost of everything they get involved in.

Dream on. That's what it is BTW, that idea, a dream.

Yes, considering the country is no overpopulated with servile socialist bootlickers like you who will stop at nothing to prevent Congress from repealing your socialist messes, it probably is a dream. That's why this country is doomed.