Shutdown will soon cost more than the wall

Unless you live off the grid growing your own vegetables and fruit, raising and slaughtering your own pigs and chickens, there are plenty of simple ways you and I, almost everyone in the US dare I say, that depends on Uncle Sam. It's one thing to want to reform the fed but to burn it down and have nothing to replace it is just nuts.
Sounds to me like a border wall is a trifling little thing to fight over, in the grand scheme of things, right?

So, why not give in on the wall funding so everyone can live their lives in peace?

No, you want to use the threat of all the horrors that we will experience if we don't immediately give in and re-open the government without the wall.

Fuck that. I am willing to live without whatever FedZilla has to offer. Are you?

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You don't know the cost of benefits of illegal immigrantion, because you rely on a bogus number by a right wing think tank.
Fuck the cost/benefit analysis. That statement tells me you don't believe that illegal immigration is a threat to our sovereignty or that people should immigrate the legal way.

This is an existential fight for the democrats. They need more poor people to vote for their socialist nonsense.

The people opposing a wall don't want the permanency of that structure. They want to have the flexible options on border security so they can adjust the level of security at their will. They want more starving poor to come here, have anchor babies, become wards of the state, and vote democrat.

I will somehow learn to deal with not having a federal government if I must.

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Unless you live off the grid growing your own vegetables and fruit, raising and slaughtering your own pigs and chickens, there are plenty of simple ways you and I, almost everyone in the US dare I say, that depends on Uncle Sam. It's one thing to want to reform the fed but to burn it down and have nothing to replace it is just nuts.
Sounds to me like a border wall is a trifling little thing to fight over, in the grand scheme of things, right?

So, why not give in on the wall funding so everyone can live their lives in peace?
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Yeah why not? in exchange for 5x whatever amount Donny wants in "wall funding" in spending cuts elsewhere, the Democrats choose half of where the cuts come from and the Republicans the other half.

I'm surprised the Democrats haven't offered something like this up (yet) since it would paint the Congressional Critters-R that CLAIM to be deficit hawks into a corner, probably work just as well if Donny offered it up but it seems he's too busy swinging the "Fear of the Other" club about trying to gin up support outside of his base to think of anything else.

As it stands now, the deal sheet appears to read "Give me what I want in exchange for NOTHING" , which I guess is what passes for Art of the Deal in the good ole' United States of Assholeia these days.
 
I say keep it shut down for a whole quarter and let the corrupt politicians and bribing companies feel it in their pockets!

Of course, after the 1st quarter, funding for the wall must be doubled.
 
Oh my! If that's true then what do you think of your Democratic leadership's political stunt of refusing to approve 0.1% of the Federal budget? And spare me the immorality narrative since they already approved $1.6 billion for "The Wall".
 
Unless you live off the grid growing your own vegetables and fruit, raising and slaughtering your own pigs and chickens, there are plenty of simple ways you and I, almost everyone in the US dare I say, that depends on Uncle Sam. It's one thing to want to reform the fed but to burn it down and have nothing to replace it is just nuts.
Sounds to me like a border wall is a trifling little thing to fight over, in the grand scheme of things, right?

So, why not give in on the wall funding so everyone can live their lives in peace?

No, you want to use the threat of all the horrors that we will experience if we don't immediately give in and re-open the government without the wall.

Fuck that. I am willing to live without whatever FedZilla has to offer. Are you?

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" No, you want to use...." Nope, that ain't me Skippy. And to answer your question, no I'm not prepared to live without whatever the "FedZilla has to offer. My military retired father depends on SS and Medicare to survive.
 
Wait until small businesses start feeling rhe loss of business from government workers and their families.
In my neck of the woods in VA they already have.
You mean near Washington DC? I hope they are.
Only an unpatriotic asshole would wish economic harm on fellow US citizens. But who am I corresponding with? bripat. One of the biggest loud mouthed dicks on USMB. Fuck off. Done with you for good, dude.
 
If the 5 billion was allocated for any other item than the wall there would be no problem. Now there is a problem since democrats know that Americans want that wall. Giving people something for the taxes they pay is just not acceptable, and being pro-American is out of the question.

If Trump had requested the money for studying why lesbians are fat or any of that other stuff that the democrats pass with a green light, there would be no questions asked.
 
Wait until small businesses start feeling rhe loss of business from government workers and their families.
In my neck of the woods in VA they already have.
You mean near Washington DC? I hope they are.
Only an unpatriotic asshole would wish economic harm on fellow US citizens. But who am I corresponding with? bripat. One of the biggest loud mouthed dicks on USMB. Fuck off. Done with you for good, dude.
I wish 90% of all government employees to lose their jobs. they cause me economic harm daily. Why should I wish economic harm on them?
 
I doubt its costing more than the wall when you factor in the billions illegals cost we the tax payer every year.

It would have to be shut down for years to equal what illegals cost every year.
You don't know the cost of benefits of illegal immigrantion, because you rely on a bogus number by a right wing think tank.

Great, so how about you enlighten us with your wisdom Einstein.
 
the FDA has stopped inspecting seafood. this is reckless.

800K federal workers are being held hostage for Trump's meideval vanity project.

Trump says he's proud of the shutdown. there's nothing to be proud of, my friends!
 
Trouble with the OP story is that it's headline is so impersonal. Plus I hate headlines ending in a question mark. I'd be more interested in how a small isolated community such as Ajo, Arizona is getting by without the paychecks provided to Border Control agents. I haven't found any such articles on Ajo yet.
 
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First bullshit government make work infrastructure program to be opposed by dimocraps. Now if the annoying orange were require all contractors to be union shops with minority hiring preferences, he’d have his wall in a new yawk minute.
 
ATC workers file a lawsuit against Trump.
Great, they go on strike again or something and airports will have to shut down, too.
Thanks, Trump, you stupid idiot motherfucking shitstain.
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