Shutdown could last years

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Trump Shutdown Could Go On For Years...

Don't tease me like that.

 

[H B Lowrie]

Our President is committed to doing the Presidency right, and neither Chuck nor Nancy seem to be willing to cede an inch on this. With Donald J. Trump behind us, we can last as long as needed.

Trump: Government will be shutdown as long as it takes - CNN Video

IRS can't issue refunds during the shut down. A million people are going to lose their cars, their apartments, their homes because they are not getting their paycheck.
Hopefully this group working over the weekend while Trump .... golfs?.... can do arm twisting better than Trump does.

A lot of the employees will find new jobs of course, if it lasts a long time. Uber is looking for new Partners at least in this area.

However, IMHO, it will take a little bit of time for Chuck and Nancy to realize they are going to have to deal.

They were making the "let's open the government" noises today, trying to convince us they WANT it open. But I think you're right--Nancy and Chuck are not feeling it.

Don claimed it proudly and the entire world witnessed it.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Oh god, what ever will we do ?

What's the first thing that will happen with no government oversight ?!!!

A. The JFK coverup will unravel

B. The sky will fall

C. Jimmy Hoffa will have to be released from the basement of the Labor Dept building

D. The moon landing hoax employees will spill the beans when their paychecks stop coming in.

E. Area 51 employees will no longer be guarding the Martians

 

[my2¢]

Closed for years! Trump must have joined the Democrats in a plot to not only get rid of ICE but in doing so eliminated the Border Patrol and Coast Guard from existence.

 

[OldLady]

If it carries on too long, the employees who are expected to work without pay will quit. That is pretty much every person working in federal prisons.
But, of course, congress still gets paid.

Hundreds of thousands of federal workers could lose their homes. Many are still going to work every day without knowing when they will see a nickel of their pay.

As for cutting off nonessential jobs, that would be a disaster. If you want to trim jobs based on comprehensive audits and figuring out exactly who is needed and who is not, thats fine. But a LOT of what are called "nonessential" are needed.

Yes, "essential" like police, fire, ambulance, corrections officers, child welfare investigators, but the people who answer phones, fill out the forms, file the papers, write the correspondence and reports -- Christ, after a couple of weeks without those "nonessential workers" no one would know their ass from their elbow, and that is the honest truth.

 

[Vastator]

Sounds like Pelosi better get busy...

Sounds like Turtle McConnell and Trump ought to get busy. Pelosi passed bills to end the shutdown already

Nah... She didn't. No wall funding. Her Bill is DOA. It doesn't get the job done. She needs to try harder. Send up a bill the Executive branch is actually going to sign.

 

[WillowTree]

That's what the Orange Idiot said (among a whole lot of other really strange things including left turns and right turns and who the fuck knows what)

The TSA has not gotten a check since this started...they will get one on Jan 3 and then nothing until it is over.

Is ICE getting paid?

The Dem House has passed a continuing resolution to get everyone paid (the Homeland Security portion is good for 30 days).

The Senate is doing nothing.

They have previously passed a clean CR by voice vote (making it unanimous) but with the new Congress that would need to be voted on again. Turtle McConnell has not brought it up for a vote. He has brought NOTHING up for a vote in the new Senate

I watched that news conference and I could feel brain cells committing suicide in the thousands. OMG. The man is a cretin.

Most of the country think he talks like a New Yorker. He talks like a Brooklyn cab driver with a high school education

God Help us

Meanwhile Pelosi gave 54 Billion in foreign aid but not one red cent for the security of Americans!

You really ought to keep up. She got a Continuing Resolution passed at existing levels..to include border security

Incorrect! We need funding and a wall! Ewe keep up.

 

[Valerie]

in the name of a "national security" prop, we deplete the Coast Guard and the TSA.

 

[WillowTree]

That's what the Orange Idiot said (among a whole lot of other really strange things including left turns and right turns and who the fuck knows what)

The TSA has not gotten a check since this started...they will get one on Jan 3 and then nothing until it is over.

Is ICE getting paid?

The Dem House has passed a continuing resolution to get everyone paid (the Homeland Security portion is good for 30 days).

The Senate is doing nothing.

They have previously passed a clean CR by voice vote (making it unanimous) but with the new Congress that would need to be voted on again. Turtle McConnell has not brought it up for a vote. He has brought NOTHING up for a vote in the new Senate

I watched that news conference and I could feel brain cells committing suicide in the thousands. OMG. The man is a cretin.

Most of the country think he talks like a New Yorker. He talks like a Brooklyn cab driver with a high school education

God Help us

Meanwhile Pelosi gave 54 Billion in foreign aid but not one red cent for the security of Americans!

You really ought to keep up. She got a Continuing Resolution passed at existing levels..to include border security

Trump told the cud chewing **** he would not sign another continuing resolution.

 

[Lesh]

Sounds like Pelosi better get busy...

Sounds like Turtle McConnell and Trump ought to get busy. Pelosi passed bills to end the shutdown already

Nah... She didn't. No wall funding. Her Bill is DOA. It doesn't get the job done. She needs to try harder. Send up a bill the Executive branch is actually going to sign.

In that CR was money for border security at last year's levels.

Newsflash. They didn't even spend all of last year's appropriation

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Sounds like Pelosi better get busy...

Sounds like Turtle McConnell and Trump ought to get busy. Pelosi passed bills to end the shutdown already

Nah... She didn't. No wall funding. Her Bill is DOA. It doesn't get the job done. She needs to try harder. Send up a bill the Executive branch is actually going to sign.

The only thing the Executive deserves is the middle finger.

 

[bendog]

Trump is betting that as things get worse for people working for, and accessing, the fed govt, the maj's or pluralities blaming him for the shutdown and not wanting a wall will become "well allright already just give him the damn wall."

The Dems are betting conventionally, that the party getting the blame gets hammered louder and harder as time goes on. (to badly echo McConnell, there's no education in a mule's second kick.")

And it may be that Trump is afraid of Coulter and the RW media, and needs them to say "well he just had no other choice."

 

[WillowTree]

Sounds like Pelosi better get busy...

Sounds like Turtle McConnell and Trump ought to get busy. Pelosi passed bills to end the shutdown already

Nah... She didn't. No wall funding. Her Bill is DOA. It doesn't get the job done. She needs to try harder. Send up a bill the Executive branch is actually going to sign.

In that CR was money for border security at last year's levels.

Newsflash. They didn't even spend all of last year's appropriation

Newsflash! They didn’t build a wall.

 

[Vastator]

Sounds like Pelosi better get busy...

Sounds like Turtle McConnell and Trump ought to get busy. Pelosi passed bills to end the shutdown already

Nah... She didn't. No wall funding. Her Bill is DOA. It doesn't get the job done. She needs to try harder. Send up a bill the Executive branch is actually going to sign.

In that CR was money for border security at last year's levels.

Newsflash. They didn't even spend all of last year's appropriation

Come back with wall funding...

 

[Lesh]

Newsflash! They didn’t build a wall.

And they never will. Certainly not for 5 billion dollars

 

[Pete7469]

I don't give a fuck if you shut the whole fucking thing down forever.

It doesn't do the few things it is supposed to do IAW the COTUS, and all the shit it does do is redundant and counterproductive.

Maybe God will have mercy on the planet and swallow it up in a massive sinkhole for all I care.

.

 

[bendog]

This is like that old Rifleman episode, when Chuck Connors and Micah accidentally crossed into "old Mexico" out of "new Mexico" and were captured by dirty stinking Mexican bandits and forced to dig their own burial holes. That haunted me for years after I saw it back in the 60s.

 

[Lesh]

Know who else isn't getting paid?

ICE and the Border Patrol

 

[Lesh]

I don't give a fuck if you shut the whole fucking thing down forever.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Read above

 

[Polishprince]

After about a month we will come to realize maybe we don't need half of them anyway.....could be a very educational good thing for America to witness....

Good point. Maybe some of these unneeded employees will put pressure on Chuck and Nancy to give in on this