Should We Invade Mexico and End Their Drug Civil War?

[Brain357]

Mass shootings killing way more Americans that drug cartels. Only place in the world where school children get active shooter training.

Boy, that kind of statement takes a real special kind of stupid.

There were 15,482 overdose deaths on heroin alone in 2017: Heroin Overdose Data | Drug Overdose | CDC Injury Center

Mass shootings aren't even in the same solar system as that body count, brainlet. Why do you leftists insist on lying all the time?

People aren't forced to take drugs. They are willing customers. Kids getting shot in school are victims. But amazing that our children are regularly shot and the right ignores it. But as soon as 9 people are shot in Mexico, send in the military.

There's been what...three, maybe four cases of mass shootings at schools over the last decade and you call that a regular occurrence?

Last decades? Try last year.

2018 'worst year for US school shootings'
This year, 113 people have been killed or injured in school shootings in the United States.

Disingenuous reporting. You and the BBC want to make it seem as if there's been 113 mass shootings at elementary schools when in fact most of them probably took place on a college campus where adults were injured, not killed.

4 or more fatalities is the bare minimum for an event to be classified as a mass shooting. Your pet issue of banning high capacity magazines and semi-automatics would have done precisely jack shit to curtail most of those 113 shootings.

Says the guy who thought we've had 3 or 4 in decades. It's a huge problem. Our children go through active shooter training. And repubs do nothing.

 

[impuretrash]

Boy, that kind of statement takes a real special kind of stupid.

There were 15,482 overdose deaths on heroin alone in 2017: Heroin Overdose Data | Drug Overdose | CDC Injury Center

Mass shootings aren't even in the same solar system as that body count, brainlet. Why do you leftists insist on lying all the time?

People aren't forced to take drugs. They are willing customers. Kids getting shot in school are victims. But amazing that our children are regularly shot and the right ignores it. But as soon as 9 people are shot in Mexico, send in the military.

There's been what...three, maybe four cases of mass shootings at schools over the last decade and you call that a regular occurrence?

Last decades? Try last year.

2018 'worst year for US school shootings'
This year, 113 people have been killed or injured in school shootings in the United States.

Disingenuous reporting. You and the BBC want to make it seem as if there's been 113 mass shootings at elementary schools when in fact most of them probably took place on a college campus where adults were injured, not killed.

4 or more fatalities is the bare minimum for an event to be classified as a mass shooting. Your pet issue of banning high capacity magazines and semi-automatics would have done precisely jack shit to curtail most of those 113 shootings.

Says the guy who thought we've had 3 or 4 in decades. It's a huge problem. Our children go through active shooter training. And repubs do nothing.

A decade is what I said. As in, singular. I'm not gonna let you get away with chalking up random shootings on college campuses that don't result in any fatalities as a "mass shooting".

 

[buttercup]

No, let's not nuke Mexico, I live here. : |

 

[Michelle420]

Invite them in to become united state

 

[satrebil]

People aren't forced to take drugs. They are willing customers.

So by your own admission you made an apples and oranges comparison. Nice try.

Kids getting shot in school are victims. But amazing that our children are regularly shot and the right ignores it.

We most certainly do not ignore it. We disagree with your inane solutions. You clowns assign the blame to inanimate objects instead of the societal ROT, fostered by the left, that leads people to do bad things with inanimate objects.

In the 1950s you could order a gun right out of the goddamn Sears catalog and have it delivered to your front door. And for some crazy reason, we didn't have rashes of school shootings then.

So what changed, genius? The guns? Or the people?

Have you bothered noticing that countries with strong gun control don't have regular mass shootings? When was the last school shooting in the UK? Guns have changed drastically. When I was a kid nobody owned an AR15 or similar rifle. People had bolt action and lever action rifles for hunting mostly. Semi-auto rifles didn't have huge magazines. The gun industry has made weapons for mass killing common and mass killing has become more common. Go figure.

More false equivalency. And again, you assign blame to an INANIMATE OBJECT.

Does murder not happen in those countries? Of course it does.

Manchester, UK: 23 people murdered via a homemade bomb at a concert
Nice, France: 86 people murdered by a TRUCK
Sweden: Over 100 bombings so far this year, and we still have 2 months to go.

Not to mention, the worst case of mass murder in US history - 9/11 - involved NO GUNS.

If someone is dead set on killing scores of people, the lack of access to a gun is NOT going to stop them.

You're not getting the guns, commie. Ever.

 

[Brain357]

People aren't forced to take drugs. They are willing customers. Kids getting shot in school are victims. But amazing that our children are regularly shot and the right ignores it. But as soon as 9 people are shot in Mexico, send in the military.

There's been what...three, maybe four cases of mass shootings at schools over the last decade and you call that a regular occurrence?

Last decades? Try last year.

2018 'worst year for US school shootings'
This year, 113 people have been killed or injured in school shootings in the United States.

Disingenuous reporting. You and the BBC want to make it seem as if there's been 113 mass shootings at elementary schools when in fact most of them probably took place on a college campus where adults were injured, not killed.

4 or more fatalities is the bare minimum for an event to be classified as a mass shooting. Your pet issue of banning high capacity magazines and semi-automatics would have done precisely jack shit to curtail most of those 113 shootings.

Says the guy who thought we've had 3 or 4 in decades. It's a huge problem. Our children go through active shooter training. And repubs do nothing.

A decade is what I said. As in, singular. I'm not gonna let you get away with chalking up random shootings on college campuses that don't result in any fatalities as a "mass shooting".

You don't pay much attention to the news? Sorry that facts don't work for you. Lots and lots of our kids are getting shot and killed at school. But they just get thoughts and prayers. 9 people get shot in mexico and send in the military. Sad.

 

[Brain357]

People aren't forced to take drugs. They are willing customers.

So by your own admission you made an apples and oranges comparison. Nice try.

Kids getting shot in school are victims. But amazing that our children are regularly shot and the right ignores it.

We most certainly do not ignore it. We disagree with your inane solutions. You clowns assign the blame to inanimate objects instead of the societal ROT, fostered by the left, that leads people to do bad things with inanimate objects.

In the 1950s you could order a gun right out of the goddamn Sears catalog and have it delivered to your front door. And for some crazy reason, we didn't have rashes of school shootings then.

So what changed, genius? The guns? Or the people?

Have you bothered noticing that countries with strong gun control don't have regular mass shootings? When was the last school shooting in the UK? Guns have changed drastically. When I was a kid nobody owned an AR15 or similar rifle. People had bolt action and lever action rifles for hunting mostly. Semi-auto rifles didn't have huge magazines. The gun industry has made weapons for mass killing common and mass killing has become more common. Go figure.

More false equivalency. And again, you assign blame to an INANIMATE OBJECT.

Does murder not happen in those countries? Of course it does.

Manchester, UK: 23 people murdered via a homemade bomb at a concert
Nice, France: 86 people murdered by a TRUCK
Sweden: Over 100 bombings so far this year, and we still have 2 months to go.

Not to mention, the worst case of mass murder in US history - 9/11 - involved NO GUNS.

If someone is dead set on killing scores of people, the lack of access to a gun is NOT going to stop them.

You're not getting the guns, commie. Ever.

We have mass killings regularly. How many of your examples from other countries happened this year? Your examples are years old because it's rare in other countries. We have plenty of mass shootings this year. Mass killing in other countries are RARE. Mass killings here happen regularly. Easy access to weapons for mass killings increases mass killings.

 

[rightwinger]

Why don’t we end our senseless drug war first?

 

[buttercup]

People aren't forced to take drugs. They are willing customers.

So by your own admission you made an apples and oranges comparison. Nice try.

Kids getting shot in school are victims. But amazing that our children are regularly shot and the right ignores it.

We most certainly do not ignore it. We disagree with your inane solutions. You clowns assign the blame to inanimate objects instead of the societal ROT, fostered by the left, that leads people to do bad things with inanimate objects.

In the 1950s you could order a gun right out of the goddamn Sears catalog and have it delivered to your front door. And for some crazy reason, we didn't have rashes of school shootings then.

So what changed, genius? The guns? Or the people?

Have you bothered noticing that countries with strong gun control don't have regular mass shootings? When was the last school shooting in the UK? Guns have changed drastically. When I was a kid nobody owned an AR15 or similar rifle. People had bolt action and lever action rifles for hunting mostly. Semi-auto rifles didn't have huge magazines. The gun industry has made weapons for mass killing common and mass killing has become more common. Go figure.

More false equivalency. And again, you assign blame to an INANIMATE OBJECT.

Does murder not happen in those countries? Of course it does.

Manchester, UK: 23 people murdered via a homemade bomb at a concert
Nice, France: 86 people murdered by a TRUCK
Sweden: Over 100 bombings so far this year, and we still have 2 months to go.

Not to mention, the worst case of mass murder in US history - 9/11 - involved NO GUNS.

If someone is dead set on killing scores of people, the lack of access to a gun is NOT going to stop them.

You're not getting the guns, commie. Ever.

We have mass killings regularly. How many of your examples from other countries happened this year? We have plenty of mass shootings this year. Mass killing in other countries are RARE. Mass killings here happen regularly. Easy access to weapons for mass killings increases mass killings.

Enough of your gun grabbing idiocy. Btw, the powers-that-be LOVE people like you.

 

[Brain357]

People aren't forced to take drugs. They are willing customers.

So by your own admission you made an apples and oranges comparison. Nice try.

Kids getting shot in school are victims. But amazing that our children are regularly shot and the right ignores it.

We most certainly do not ignore it. We disagree with your inane solutions. You clowns assign the blame to inanimate objects instead of the societal ROT, fostered by the left, that leads people to do bad things with inanimate objects.

In the 1950s you could order a gun right out of the goddamn Sears catalog and have it delivered to your front door. And for some crazy reason, we didn't have rashes of school shootings then.

So what changed, genius? The guns? Or the people?

Have you bothered noticing that countries with strong gun control don't have regular mass shootings? When was the last school shooting in the UK? Guns have changed drastically. When I was a kid nobody owned an AR15 or similar rifle. People had bolt action and lever action rifles for hunting mostly. Semi-auto rifles didn't have huge magazines. The gun industry has made weapons for mass killing common and mass killing has become more common. Go figure.

More false equivalency. And again, you assign blame to an INANIMATE OBJECT.

Does murder not happen in those countries? Of course it does.

Manchester, UK: 23 people murdered via a homemade bomb at a concert
Nice, France: 86 people murdered by a TRUCK
Sweden: Over 100 bombings so far this year, and we still have 2 months to go.

Not to mention, the worst case of mass murder in US history - 9/11 - involved NO GUNS.

If someone is dead set on killing scores of people, the lack of access to a gun is NOT going to stop them.

You're not getting the guns, commie. Ever.

We have mass killings regularly. How many of your examples from other countries happened this year? We have plenty of mass shootings this year. Mass killing in other countries are RARE. Mass killings here happen regularly. Easy access to weapons for mass killings increases mass killings.

Enough of your gun grabbing idiocy. Btw, the powers-that-be LOVE people like you.

Lower homicide rates are idiocy? Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a fraction of ours. They also don't suffer regular mass killings.

 

[satrebil]

Easy access to weapons for mass killings increases mass killings.

And we circle back: Then why weren't they happening 50 years ago, dipshit?

 

[impuretrash]

There's been what...three, maybe four cases of mass shootings at schools over the last decade and you call that a regular occurrence?

Last decades? Try last year.

2018 'worst year for US school shootings'
This year, 113 people have been killed or injured in school shootings in the United States.

Disingenuous reporting. You and the BBC want to make it seem as if there's been 113 mass shootings at elementary schools when in fact most of them probably took place on a college campus where adults were injured, not killed.

4 or more fatalities is the bare minimum for an event to be classified as a mass shooting. Your pet issue of banning high capacity magazines and semi-automatics would have done precisely jack shit to curtail most of those 113 shootings.

Says the guy who thought we've had 3 or 4 in decades. It's a huge problem. Our children go through active shooter training. And repubs do nothing.

A decade is what I said. As in, singular. I'm not gonna let you get away with chalking up random shootings on college campuses that don't result in any fatalities as a "mass shooting".

You don't pay much attention to the news? Sorry that facts don't work for you. Lots and lots of our kids are getting shot and killed at school. But they just get thoughts and prayers. 9 people get shot in mexico and send in the military. Sad.

Sorry but the facts are on my side in this argument. Just because you keep harping on and on endlessly about the same incident doesn't mean it's an epidemic.

 

[buttercup]

So by your own admission you made an apples and oranges comparison. Nice try.

We most certainly do not ignore it. We disagree with your inane solutions. You clowns assign the blame to inanimate objects instead of the societal ROT, fostered by the left, that leads people to do bad things with inanimate objects.

In the 1950s you could order a gun right out of the goddamn Sears catalog and have it delivered to your front door. And for some crazy reason, we didn't have rashes of school shootings then.

So what changed, genius? The guns? Or the people?

Have you bothered noticing that countries with strong gun control don't have regular mass shootings? When was the last school shooting in the UK? Guns have changed drastically. When I was a kid nobody owned an AR15 or similar rifle. People had bolt action and lever action rifles for hunting mostly. Semi-auto rifles didn't have huge magazines. The gun industry has made weapons for mass killing common and mass killing has become more common. Go figure.

More false equivalency. And again, you assign blame to an INANIMATE OBJECT.

Does murder not happen in those countries? Of course it does.

Manchester, UK: 23 people murdered via a homemade bomb at a concert
Nice, France: 86 people murdered by a TRUCK
Sweden: Over 100 bombings so far this year, and we still have 2 months to go.

Not to mention, the worst case of mass murder in US history - 9/11 - involved NO GUNS.

If someone is dead set on killing scores of people, the lack of access to a gun is NOT going to stop them.

You're not getting the guns, commie. Ever.

We have mass killings regularly. How many of your examples from other countries happened this year? We have plenty of mass shootings this year. Mass killing in other countries are RARE. Mass killings here happen regularly. Easy access to weapons for mass killings increases mass killings.

Enough of your gun grabbing idiocy. Btw, the powers-that-be LOVE people like you.

Lower homicide rates are idiocy? Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a fraction of ours. They also don't suffer regular mass killings.

Yes, other countries don't have false flags, because their guns were already taken away. (They still have violence though.) Here in the US we value a little thing called "freedom." Something that only idiots hand over.

 

[impuretrash]

Why don’t we end our senseless drug war first?

I hate to admit it but looks like we might have to do just that. Legalize hard drugs like heroin and opiates, cut off the cartel's money supply.

 

[Brain357]

Easy access to weapons for mass killings increases mass killings.

And we circle back: Then why weren't they happening 50 years ago, dipshit?

I already explained it dipshit. Guns have changed drastically. AR15s weren't everywhere. People had 6 shots revolvers rather than 20 shot semi-autos. When mass killing weapons are everywhere there are more mass killings.

 

[Brain357]

Last decades? Try last year.

2018 'worst year for US school shootings'
This year, 113 people have been killed or injured in school shootings in the United States.

Disingenuous reporting. You and the BBC want to make it seem as if there's been 113 mass shootings at elementary schools when in fact most of them probably took place on a college campus where adults were injured, not killed.

4 or more fatalities is the bare minimum for an event to be classified as a mass shooting. Your pet issue of banning high capacity magazines and semi-automatics would have done precisely jack shit to curtail most of those 113 shootings.

Says the guy who thought we've had 3 or 4 in decades. It's a huge problem. Our children go through active shooter training. And repubs do nothing.

A decade is what I said. As in, singular. I'm not gonna let you get away with chalking up random shootings on college campuses that don't result in any fatalities as a "mass shooting".

You don't pay much attention to the news? Sorry that facts don't work for you. Lots and lots of our kids are getting shot and killed at school. But they just get thoughts and prayers. 9 people get shot in mexico and send in the military. Sad.

Sorry but the facts are on my side in this argument. Just because you keep harping on and on endlessly about the same incident doesn't mean it's an epidemic.

Keep your head in the sand and ignore the facts then.

 

[keepitreal]

IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

• Loss of control of its territory, or of the monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force therein
• Erosion of legitimate authority to make collective decisions
• Inability to provide public services
• Inability to interact with other states as a full member of the international community

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

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Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?

That's how you know Joe is full of shit!

If he was making financial assistance from the United States
contingent upon Ukraine getting serious about corruption...
Why all of a sudden?
What was so special about Ukraine?

Mexico IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR
We can drive to Mexico

Corruption and cartel thugs in Mexico is nothing new
We give Mexico hundreds of millions yearly
adding up to billions over the last 10 years alone,
KNOWING corruption in government is rampant

Wouldn't it make sense to send in troops
to deal with the cartels and appoint their government leaders?
That's what we do in the Middle East, no

You know why they don't send our troops into Mexico
BECAUSE OUR OWN FUCKING OFFICALS
ARE CROOKED AND TAKING MONEY
FOR ALLOWING DRUGS INTO OUR COUNTRY

Do the hardest part for/in Mexico and let her people stay there

 

[Brain357]

Have you bothered noticing that countries with strong gun control don't have regular mass shootings? When was the last school shooting in the UK? Guns have changed drastically. When I was a kid nobody owned an AR15 or similar rifle. People had bolt action and lever action rifles for hunting mostly. Semi-auto rifles didn't have huge magazines. The gun industry has made weapons for mass killing common and mass killing has become more common. Go figure.

More false equivalency. And again, you assign blame to an INANIMATE OBJECT.

Does murder not happen in those countries? Of course it does.

Manchester, UK: 23 people murdered via a homemade bomb at a concert
Nice, France: 86 people murdered by a TRUCK
Sweden: Over 100 bombings so far this year, and we still have 2 months to go.

Not to mention, the worst case of mass murder in US history - 9/11 - involved NO GUNS.

If someone is dead set on killing scores of people, the lack of access to a gun is NOT going to stop them.

You're not getting the guns, commie. Ever.

We have mass killings regularly. How many of your examples from other countries happened this year? We have plenty of mass shootings this year. Mass killing in other countries are RARE. Mass killings here happen regularly. Easy access to weapons for mass killings increases mass killings.

Enough of your gun grabbing idiocy. Btw, the powers-that-be LOVE people like you.

Lower homicide rates are idiocy? Countries with strong gun control have homicide rates a fraction of ours. They also don't suffer regular mass killings.

Yes, other countries don't have false flags, because their guns were already taken away. (They still have violence though.) Here in the US we value a little thing called "freedom." Something that only idiots hand over.

Freedom to life is a whole lot better than freedom to quickly and easily become a mass killer.

 

[impuretrash]

Disingenuous reporting. You and the BBC want to make it seem as if there's been 113 mass shootings at elementary schools when in fact most of them probably took place on a college campus where adults were injured, not killed.

4 or more fatalities is the bare minimum for an event to be classified as a mass shooting. Your pet issue of banning high capacity magazines and semi-automatics would have done precisely jack shit to curtail most of those 113 shootings.

Says the guy who thought we've had 3 or 4 in decades. It's a huge problem. Our children go through active shooter training. And repubs do nothing.

A decade is what I said. As in, singular. I'm not gonna let you get away with chalking up random shootings on college campuses that don't result in any fatalities as a "mass shooting".

You don't pay much attention to the news? Sorry that facts don't work for you. Lots and lots of our kids are getting shot and killed at school. But they just get thoughts and prayers. 9 people get shot in mexico and send in the military. Sad.

Sorry but the facts are on my side in this argument. Just because you keep harping on and on endlessly about the same incident doesn't mean it's an epidemic.

Keep your head in the sand and ignore the facts then.

Like I said. The actual facts are that the majority of shooting incidents at schools are adults shooting adults and not of the mass-murder variety.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There's been what...three, maybe four cases of mass shootings at schools over the last decade and you call that a regular occurrence?

NoBrains357 thinks school kids being killed is funny.

Sick.