Should We Invade Mexico and End Their Drug Civil War?

What should we do to protect the American public from the violence and chaos of Mexico?

  • I dont know, but it's not violent enough whatever it is

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  • Nothing at all, everythings allright mate!

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JimBowie1958

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IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

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Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?
 
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Finish the damn wall and pass USMCA....come on Congress you say you can walk and chew gum at the same time...prove it!!!!
 
Finish the damn wall and pass USMCA....come on Congress you say you can walk and chew gum at the same time...prove it!!!!
Yeah, that would require extraordinary levels of proof as it is an extraordinary assertion.
 
Should We Invade Mexico and End Their Drug Civil War?

No. We should complete the wall, a solid concrete one 40 feet high and 20 feet underground, then:
  • Invade Mexico and take all the good drugs.
  • Turn Mexico into the US's private resort country full of luxury hotels, pools, and spas. Trump will know how to do this. Put him in charge of building and running it all.
  • Then put all the Mexicans to work as bellhops, chefs, taxi drivers and room maids.
 
IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

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Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?


Sure, wall yourselves in with your mass surveillance state, your concentration camps, your militarized white supremacist infiltrated "law" enforcement, your widely contaminated public water supply and your disappearing middle class living wage jobs. Fweedumb.
 
Should We Invade Mexico and End Their Drug Civil War?

Only if we take to opportunity to also boot 20 million illegals.
 
IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

View attachment 288415

Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?


Sure, wall yourselves in with your mass surveillance state, your concentration camps, your militarized white supremacist infiltrated "law" enforcement, your widely contaminated public water supply and your disappearing middle class living wage jobs. Fweedumb.




Where dew ewe live?
 
Finish the damn wall and pass USMCA....come on Congress you say you can walk and chew gum at the same time...prove it!!!!
That wall that an 8 year old girl scaled in one minute?
That is a lie...why do you just swallow what the hate Trump media feeds you?....they are lying about the president of the United States everyday...and all day....
 
IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

View attachment 288415

Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?
Nonsense. Mexico is a perfect example of Capitalism winning. Even the US supported federal government of Mexico gets its ass handed to it by private enterprise. If the US were to bother with any involvement south of the border...
We would install the proven to be capable, and strong.
 
IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

View attachment 288415

Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?
Nonsense. Mexico is a perfect example of Capitalism winning. Even the US supported federal government of Mexico gets its ass handed to it by private enterprise. If the US were to bother with any involvement south of the border...
We would install the proven to be capable, and strong.





What a stupid reply. Mexico, while being one of the wealthiest countries on the planet mineralogicaly wise, is a third world shithole because of ONE PARTY rule. A corrupt party that makes sure the peons remain peons.

Exactly what the leftists are trying to do here.
 
Invade Mexico?

They are surrounded by a wall
 
IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

View attachment 288415

Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?
Nonsense. Mexico is a perfect example of Capitalism winning. Even the US supported federal government of Mexico gets its ass handed to it by private enterprise. If the US were to bother with any involvement south of the border...
We would install the proven to be capable, and strong.





What a stupid reply. Mexico, while being one of the wealthiest countries on the planet mineralogicaly wise, is a third world shithole because of ONE PARTY rule. A corrupt party that makes sure the peons remain peons.

Exactly what the leftists are trying to do here.
Horse shit.Free enterprise stomped “Federal Gubmint authority...” into submission. Because when profit is on the line...? Greed, and the thirst for power does it better than Jingoism every time. The best Capitalists in Mexico are getting the fucking job done. And they don’t give a half a shit if you like it, or not.
 
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Hell with Mexico

We need to invade Canada
They have been sneaking across our border, drinking our beer and stealing our women
 
Invading Mexico would turn into another Middle East. I could possibly see very carefully planned drone strikes once we have rock solid intelligence on where the cartels hide out. Limiting collateral damage would be paramount.
 
IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

View attachment 288415

Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?
Nonsense. Mexico is a perfect example of Capitalism winning. Even the US supported federal government of Mexico gets its ass handed to it by private enterprise. If the US were to bother with any involvement south of the border...
We would install the proven to be capable, and strong.





What a stupid reply. Mexico, while being one of the wealthiest countries on the planet mineralogicaly wise, is a third world shithole because of ONE PARTY rule. A corrupt party that makes sure the peons remain peons.

Exactly what the leftists are trying to do here.
Horse shit.Free enterprise stomped “Federal Gubmint authority...” into submission. Because when profit is on the line...? Greed, and the thirst for power does it better than Jingoism every time. The best Capitalists in Mexico are getting the fucking job done. And they don’t give a half a shit if you like it, or not.





Dude, try reading some mexican history . You are bleating like fool.
 
IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

View attachment 288415

Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?
Nonsense. Mexico is a perfect example of Capitalism winning. Even the US supported federal government of Mexico gets its ass handed to it by private enterprise. If the US were to bother with any involvement south of the border...
We would install the proven to be capable, and strong.





What a stupid reply. Mexico, while being one of the wealthiest countries on the planet mineralogicaly wise, is a third world shithole because of ONE PARTY rule. A corrupt party that makes sure the peons remain peons.

Exactly what the leftists are trying to do here.
Horse shit.Free enterprise stomped “Federal Gubmint authority...” into submission. Because when profit is on the line...? Greed, and the thirst for power does it better than Jingoism every time. The best Capitalists in Mexico are getting the fucking job done. And they don’t give a half a shit if you like it, or not.





Dude, try reading some mexican history . You are bleating like fool.
Scathing retort dude...
 
IT is beyond reason, that Mexican criminal organizations pump poison into our country that kills around 70k American citizens each year, and our government does not consider them terrorists.

The Mexican government cannot control these fiends at all, none whatsoever. If the Cartels demand that the Mexican government release criminals, the government does so. They need our help but will not ask for it for fear of what the Drug Cartels might do.

The Mexican government is by definition a failed and helpless government, a fiction no better than the Somali government.

Failed state - Wikipedia

A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly (see also fragile state and state collapse). A state can also fail if the government loses its legitimacy even if it is performing its functions properly. For a stable state it is necessary for the government to enjoy both effectiveness and legitimacy. Likewise, when a nation weakens and its standard of living declines, it introduces the possibility of total governmental collapse. The Fund for Peace characterizes a failed state as having the following characteristics:

Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has an inability to raise taxes or other support, and has little practical control over much of its territory and hence there is a non-provision of public services. When this happens, widespread corruption and criminality, the intervention of state and non-state actors, the appearance of refugees and the involuntary movement of populations, sharp economic decline, and foreign military intervention can occur.[1]

The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences​

View attachment 288415

Mexico is a failed state.

But what should we do about it? Stop worrying about every tiny nation in the Middle Easta nd start protecting our own citizens first? Declare martial law? What?
Nonsense. Mexico is a perfect example of Capitalism winning. Even the US supported federal government of Mexico gets its ass handed to it by private enterprise. If the US were to bother with any involvement south of the border...
We would install the proven to be capable, and strong.





What a stupid reply. Mexico, while being one of the wealthiest countries on the planet mineralogicaly wise, is a third world shithole because of ONE PARTY rule. A corrupt party that makes sure the peons remain peons.

Exactly what the leftists are trying to do here.
Horse shit.Free enterprise stomped “Federal Gubmint authority...” into submission. Because when profit is on the line...? Greed, and the thirst for power does it better than Jingoism every time. The best Capitalists in Mexico are getting the fucking job done. And they don’t give a half a shit if you like it, or not.





Dude, try reading some mexican history . You are bleating like fool.
Scathing retort dude...





I'm trying to get you to educate yourself, not insult you.
 
Nonsense. Mexico is a perfect example of Capitalism winning. Even the US supported federal government of Mexico gets its ass handed to it by private enterprise. If the US were to bother with any involvement south of the border...
We would install the proven to be capable, and strong.





What a stupid reply. Mexico, while being one of the wealthiest countries on the planet mineralogicaly wise, is a third world shithole because of ONE PARTY rule. A corrupt party that makes sure the peons remain peons.

Exactly what the leftists are trying to do here.
Horse shit.Free enterprise stomped “Federal Gubmint authority...” into submission. Because when profit is on the line...? Greed, and the thirst for power does it better than Jingoism every time. The best Capitalists in Mexico are getting the fucking job done. And they don’t give a half a shit if you like it, or not.





Dude, try reading some mexican history . You are bleating like fool.
Scathing retort dude...





I'm trying to get you to educate yourself, not insult you.
What you’re ineffectively doing is trying to avoid the facts I presented., with deflections to me. Freshman shit...
 

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