Should There Be Some Limit on Freedom of Speech?

lol you never seem to have anything but sniveling. The 'virtual monopoly shctick' is going to court soon, so obviously there is a lot to it. They're no different than the railroads or Standard Oil or any number of Trusts formed over the last two hundred years. Like I said you really have no clue at all about the issues or what the government is supposed to do and not do.
Also wrong.

Social media are nothing like the railroads or Standard Oil.

The internet is infinite with ample opportunities for communication – the notion that social media are monopolies is as ridiculous as it is wrong.

Just because rightists incorrectly perceive social media being ‘mean’ to conservatives doesn’t justify unwarranted, un-Constitutional ‘regulation’ of social media.
 
lol you never seem to have anything but sniveling. The 'virtual monopoly shctick' is going to court soon, so obviously there is a lot to it. They're no different than the railroads or Standard Oil or any number of Trusts formed over the last two hundred years. Like I said you really have no clue at all about the issues or what the government is supposed to do and not do.
How long have you been a socialist?
 
Also wrong.

Social media are nothing like the railroads or Standard Oil.

The internet is infinite with ample opportunities for communication – the notion that social media are monopolies is as ridiculous as it is wrong.

Just because rightists incorrectly perceive social media being ‘mean’ to conservatives doesn’t justify unwarranted, un-Constitutional ‘regulation’ of social media.

Claytie the Commie shills for Big Biz and REd China. lol
 
Yes, disinformation should be countered, including the one that winds up the statistics of deaths from covid and promotes the vaccine, without giving any guarantees.
 
How long have you realized you can't think for yourself?
The "virtual monopoly" bullshit is the go to excuse for socialists when they want to nationalize something. And now Trumpsters are playing the same game - just because Twitter was mean to their hero. Pathetic.
 
Who should counter it? More specifically, should it be the government?
They have to do it in any case. Lying and manipulating facts is a fraud, it is formally illegal.
The problem is that some of these frauds are corrupt and are associated with the authorities themselves and the politics of some groups that supported by the state apparatus.
 
They have to do it in any case. Lying and manipulating facts is a fraud, it is formally illegal.
That's not what we're talking about. As you point out, fraud is already illegal.
The problem is that some of these frauds are corrupt and are associated with the authorities themselves and the politics of some groups that supported by the state apparatus.
Ok, then that brings us back to my original question. Who should in be charge of countering misinformation?
 
The Internet is a powerful means of spreading information, but it's also a power means of spreading dangerous misinformation. And when that misinformation is accepted as fact and innocent people act on it and die is this not analogous to screaming fire in a crowded auditorium where there is no fire and many are trampled to death.

I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, there is a big difference between, the statements of opinion and fact, and between news and editorials. Just as there is a big difference between the statements, "In my opinion, we had many deaths due to covid-19 vaccines in the US. " and "5,250 people in the US have died due covid-19 vaccinations" The first statement is a personal expression of opinion and carries far less weight than the second which is declaration of fact.

IMHO, if we do no find a way to stop the spread of dangerous misinformation, it will eventually lead to government controlling media, not because of some sinister clandestine organization or some world goverment, but because the people will demand it.


Nope...only incitement to actual violence should be stopped.....
 
The Internet is a powerful means of spreading information, but it's also a power means of spreading dangerous misinformation. And when that misinformation is accepted as fact and innocent people act on it and die is this not analogous to screaming fire in a crowded auditorium where there is no fire and many are trampled to death.

I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, there is a big difference between, the statements of opinion and fact, and between news and editorials. Just as there is a big difference between the statements, "In my opinion, we had many deaths due to covid-19 vaccines in the US. " and "5,250 people in the US have died due covid-19 vaccinations" The first statement is a personal expression of opinion and carries far less weight than the second which is declaration of fact.

IMHO, if we do no find a way to stop the spread of dangerous misinformation, it will eventually lead to government controlling media, not because of some sinister clandestine organization or some world goverment, but because the people will demand it.
There is, and yes there should be.
The Founders recognized this right to criticize the king, and the church, without persecution.We have far overstepped the original intent.
 
IMO its not a freedom of speech issue. If you break my rules while in my home I reserve the right to kick your ass out of my home. If you want freedom of speech on the internet start your own platform.

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But do you STATE BOLDLY, CLEARLY, and HONESTLY all of your rules BEFORE people enter your home? Or are you like everybody else and expect them to read your mind?

Do you continually change, alter, and misinform guests with decieving rhetoric, corporate psycho-babble, and political jargon that means absolutely nothing.....as Facebook and Twitter do??
 
But do you STATE BOLDLY, CLEARLY, and HONESTLY all of your rules BEFORE people enter your home? Or are you like everybody else and expect them to read your mind?

Do you continually change, alter, and misinform guests with decieving rhetoric, corporate psycho-babble, and political jargon that means absolutely nothing.....as Facebook and Twitter do??
It doesn't really matter. In the end, I have the right to kick them off my property.
 
Nope...only incitement to actual violence should be stopped.....
Strength isn't always bad. if you do not stop the predator, he will eat all the animals, but he will not stop himself. If you do not stop the sex maniacs, they will rape and eat all the children. The United States has adopted the correct concept, Europe has adopted the concept of "educating", but it is immoral and does not actually work
 

Should There Be Some Limit on Freedom of Speech?​



There ARE limits. Well, not so much "limits" as people using sense, etiquette, and manners to convey thoughts and express emotions. Something that just does not happen anymore......well, extremely rarely.

You have the right to free speech, as long as............

you aren't impeding someone elses free speech.
you aren't plagiarizing someone else.
you aren't invoking an air of fear or violence.
you aren't degrading, belittling, or harassing others.
you aren't using it for your personal stepping stool to gain unlawful power over others.
you aren't threatening others.
you aren't lying through your teeth.
you keep it clean, professional, and to the point.


But the 21st century is all about the "ME, ME, ME" generation. They don't care what they say, how they say it, to whom it's said, who it hurts, who it destroys, or what threats, tantrums, and lies they have to use in order to get what they want to serve their private agenda's and self-promoting propaganda.
 
The world would be a much better place if Wilson, Roosevelt, Truman, Johnson, Bush 1 & 2, were not able to speak or do stuff.
 

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