Should teachers be armed?

[Cougarbear]

You want to do away with no gun zones and arm teachers. What a dufus idea. Anyone can legally walk into a school with a gun and start a gun fight amongst juveniles. what dumb ideas. We have more gun deaths then any-other developed nation, anf you want more…..idiots.

Now adult teachers are juveniles? What’s the definition of a woman? Start with that. Once you can figure that out, we can talk about a grown up teacher. And, if schools are properly secured with “lockout” measures, not anyone can walk into a school. If they somehow get in with 50 teachers, administrators and guards pointing guns at the Dufus, there is not going to be a gunfight. It’s the best strategy we have because your weak work methods haven’t worked so far.

 

[Persuader]

You want to do away with no gun zones and arm teachers. What a dufus idea. Anyone can legally walk into a school with a gun and start a gun fight amongst juveniles. what dumb ideas. We have more gun deaths then any-other developed nation, anf you want more…..idiots.

'Legally walk into a school with a gun and start a gun fight'?????

What a imagination you have.

I see guys in white coats coming for dago.

 

[Persuader]

List of the Pros of Arming Teachers​

1. It gives a classroom a fighting chance during a lockdown situation.
If a teacher has a classroom of 20 students who are trapped with an active shooter at their door, the presence of a firearm can help to save lives. Even the knowledge that a teacher might be armed could be enough to stop an uncertain individual from committing an act of violence. If our teachers are trained in the appropriate use of a firearm, then they can take the shot before police officers arrive to contain the situation. Even in a best-case scenario, it may be 2-4 minutes before the first officials arrive at the school to confront a shooter. A teacher could react much faster.

“We’re 20 minutes from any police force being able to respond to an event,” said Ryan Burns, Superintendent of the Northwestern Area School District in South Dakota, to local affiliate KPRY, “so with that in mind is one of the reasons why we decided to move forward.”

2. Arming teachers would bolster school security.
Our schools are not as strong as they need to be from a security standpoint with the emphasis on gun violence that we see each year. Having a police officer on campus is helpful, especially with an active shooter, but a handful of armed people cannot be in every room at school all of the time. After the incident at Parkland, we can also see that our SROs may not be overly reliable either. Having willfully armed teachers in the classroom as part of a crisis response team can heighten security during the day to ensure our kids have a safe place to learn.


3. School districts can save a lot of money by arming teachers.
After the events of the Sandy Hook school shooting which took the lives of 20 first graders and eight staff, the Clarksville School District wanted to hire an extra full-time security guard, but they couldn’t afford it. The cost of one new armed staffer is about $50,000 per year in the United States, but this Arkansas district found that they could train 13 staff for $68,000. They took the latter approach using volunteers and have found that the program is an excellent deterrent.

As Jim Krohn, a social studies teacher for the school district, told local affiliate KTFA, “If we didn’t do this and somebody came into this building or any of our school buildings and harmed children, it would be hard to go to sleep that night thinking what else could I have done, and at least we’ve done what we think is the best thing to protect the children of Clarksville School District.”

4. Parents can still have the final say in most school districts.
If parents don’t like the idea of having armed teachers in the classroom or on campus, then most jurisdictions allow families to work toward putting the issue to a voter referendum. That means if there is a disagreement with a school board decision, then there is a way to override this issue. Before carrying a firearm, most schools require at least 80 hours of training in the use of force, evidence of weapon proficiency, first aid certification, and an overview of legality concerns before going before the school board for approval.

5. We have evidence that this idea works.
According to an article from the New York Daily News (dated February 28, 2018), there have been at least six school shootings that were halted because of the presence of a swift and armed defender dating back to 1997. An armed assistant principal stopped an incident in Pearl, MS. In 1998, a restaurant owner hosting a junior high school dance stopped an incident in Edinboro, PA. An off-duty officer dropping his child off at school stopped a 2001 incident at Santee High School, CA. Law students at Appalachian School of Law stopped an incident in 2002 at their school. A law enforcement officer prevented an incident in 2010 at Sullivan Central High School in Tennessee. Then a 2013 incident at Arapahoe High School in Colorado was stopped by a sheriff’s deputy on duty at the school.

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[Dagosa]

'Legally walk into a school with a gun and start a gun fight'?????

What a imagination you have.

I see guys in white coats coming for dago.

That’s your idea. Free guns in school. Arm everyone in crowded schools.
Guess you’ve never walked down the hallways of a crowded school between classes and had to break up the fights. Now we have a bunch of armed weak 55 years old teachers who don’t know shit about self defense, can’t use mace but are getting pummeled by a student and all they have is a gun free zones.

Armed confrontation ver seldom if Never happens on cruise ships, airplanes, professional sporting events with gun free zones. You’re the one with the imagination. Idiots. More guns, more gun violence stupid.

 

[Dagosa]

Exactly! The left misuse words all the time. They can’t define a woman. They can’t define a man. They can’t define a white racist. So, why would we think they understand lock outs?

Wow, here’s a post guy who needs a gun to be a man and he’s worried about non science.

 

[surada]

Teachers are now criminals. You are insane.

do you even begin to think before writing? You want the children safe. But you want to invite killers in by not closing the gates and doors. And by telling them we have no guns here so come on in! How many times do I have to say the killers who are still alive have said themselves they look for gun free soft target zones.

Why would you say teachers are criminals? Are you crazy?

 

[surada]

Why do these morons lock their doors at home?

They have no logic.

I would not call it a lock down to begin with....that is a misnomer....it is a lock out....aka lock out intruders

What a stupid comparison.

 

[Dagosa]

Exactly! The left misuse words all the time. They can’t define a woman. They can’t define a man. They can’t define a white racist. So, why would we think they understand lock outs?

You gun a hole s are amazingly indiscriminate in your ability to blame anyone but yourself in arming every breathin* humanoid.

 

[surada]

You gun a hole s are amazingly indiscriminate in your ability to blame anyone but yourself in arming every breathin* humanoid.

Realistically they should compare themselves to Afghanistan and Yemen. Both countries are awash in guns and drugs.

 

[Persuader]

Dago is one of those obsessed with the erroneous, fallacious and utterly stupid idea that gun free zones are the way to go to prevent school shootings.

Well as has been said and seen many, many times .........you cannot fix stupid.

The truth regarding so called gun free zones.........they are in fact a safe zone for the criminals who are not deterred by the law against bringing THEIR gun to the zone to do a little target practice on live targets!

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/gun-free-zones-why-they-dont-work/#:~:text=05/21/2019-,Gun,--Free%20Zones%3A%20Why

 

[surada]

Persuader

Most school teachers are women. Do you expect them to carry guns and solve this problem with mass killers?

 

[Persuader]

We should not blame dago too much.....he means well but to begin with he is just following the demo party line....unable to think for himself.

 

[Cougarbear]

Wow, here’s a post guy who needs a gun to be a man and he’s worried about non science.

I’m not teaching anymore. So, I have no need of a gun, yet. When you idiots start coming for our 2nd amendment rights then I’ll get one with the other 600 million in which people understand why we have that right. Other than that, teachers with guns are the best way to never have to shoot them at schools. End gun free zones and you end nuts who want to make a name for themselves.
As far as science, non-woke people know what women and men are. Your idiot Scotus that couldn’t answer that is why you are wrong.

 

[Cougarbear]

Why would you say teachers are criminals? Are you crazy?

Because you and others eluded to this. Your words not mine. Mine was a question. Yours and others are statements.

 

[surada]

Because you and others eluded to this. Your words not mine. Mine was a question. Yours and others are statements.

You're a liar. I never alluded to teachers being criminals. Is this an example of your religiosity?

 

[Dagosa]

I’m not teaching anymore. So, I have no need of a gun, yet. When you idiots start coming for our 2nd amendment rights then I’ll get one with the other 600 million in which people understand why we have that right. Other than that, teachers with guns are the best way to never have to shoot them at schools. End gun free zones and you end nuts who want to make a name for themselves.
As far as science, non-woke people know what women and men are. Your idiot Scotus that couldn’t answer that is why you are wrong.

What stupidity. The safest gathering places in the US are In states with strongest gun laws and everywhere gun free zones are enforced. You’re a delusional nra bot.

 

[Dagosa]

You're a liar. I never alluded to teachers being criminals. Is this an example of your religiosity?

“Because you and others eluded to this.”
Its because Cougarbear can’t read; he just makes up shit.
Next time he should check the difference between “ allude and elude ”

 

[surada]

“Because you and others eluded to this.”
Its because Cougarbear can’t read; he just makes up shit.
Next time he should check the difference between “ allude and elude ”

I think cougarbear is female.

 

[Dagosa]

I think cougarbear is female.

He/she is a conservative wack .

 

[there4eyeM]

The local militias should patrol for school safety.