Should illegal immigrants be recieving foodstamps and medical care

[BasicHumanUnit]

Much like the roads you drive on and the TV channels you watch, how much did you actually pay for for it to be in existence?

Unlike illegals....I DID help pay for them......and I have insurance so I take responsibility for my actions......

When you get hit head on by a drunken illegal who then goes back to Mexico.....get back to me ...K?

 

[Moonglow]

Obviously not. Taking care of residents of a failing country is only enabling.
Financially, we need to get back on our own feet before helping others.

It's just like an individual, if you keep providing for your kids, they will never strike out on their own and make changes to be self sufficient.

Also you don't bankrupt yourself continuing to try to support someone else, because the only thing that can happen is you both wind up in ruins.

Common sense.

That's rather ludicrous, how many infants have their own jobs for self support, and toddlers to 12 years old, how many have jobs to support themselves...

I'm talking about the country as a whole. These kids have parents. I can't believe that everyone in Mexico is unable to take care of themselves. It's the job of the country to get their act together. The US can't protect all the helpless of the world.

Then get rid of the Christian religion..Jesus says you can.

But he stipulates to do so with your own wealth, not someone else's, and certainly not at gunpoint.

Not at gunpoint? Just a locked door when you knock to enter into Heaven.....Let's face it, we all pay taxes for crap we don't like to pay for....Welfare is just one in a long list...So write your Congresscritter and they will ignore you.But trying to degrade a fellow citizen isn't going to get you what you want either..What you all need is anger management class..

 

[Moonglow]

Much like the roads you drive on and the TV channels you watch, how much did you actually pay for for it to be in existence?

Unlike illegals....I DID help pay for them......and I have insurance so I take responsibility for my actions......

When you get hit head on by a drunken illegal who then goes back to Mexico.....get back to me ...K?

I lost my business due to illegals yet I can't hate you for it..

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Obviously not. Taking care of residents of a failing country is only enabling.
Financially, we need to get back on our own feet before helping others.

It's just like an individual, if you keep providing for your kids, they will never strike out on their own and make changes to be self sufficient.

Also you don't bankrupt yourself continuing to try to support someone else, because the only thing that can happen is you both wind up in ruins.

Common sense.

That's rather ludicrous, how many infants have their own jobs for self support, and toddlers to 12 years old, how many have jobs to support themselves...

I'm talking about the country as a whole. These kids have parents. I can't believe that everyone in Mexico is unable to take care of themselves. It's the job of the country to get their act together. The US can't protect all the helpless of the world.

Then get rid of the Christian religion..Jesus says you can.

But he stipulates to do so with your own wealth, not someone else's, and certainly not at gunpoint.

Not at gunpoint? Just a locked door when you knock to enter into Heaven.....Let's face it, we all pay taxes for crap we don't like to pay for....Welfare is just one in a long list...So write your Congresscritter and they will ignore you.But trying to degrade a fellow citizen isn't going to get you what you want either..What you all need is anger management class..

Not the point. You try to attach Jesus' attitude toward the poor to government collection/distribution of tax revenues. Apples and screwdrivers. Charity as a matter of conscience is charity. Charity as a matter of imposed policy is theft.

What fellow citizen am I degrading? Why do you suggest an anger management class?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The only way they could be getting food stamps is with a fake ID...

Well.....we ALL know the Democrats would NEVER do anything like give out ID's....... for votes

"The biggest misconception about the problem of non-citizen voting is that illegal aliens are "undocumented." That's nonsense. Some experts believe that up to 75% of illegals who work in America have fraudulent Social Security cards. Fake licenses, birth certificates, and green cards are incredibly common. The fake ID industry is worth more than $2 billion."
Report: As Many as 5.7 Million Non-Citizens Voted in 2008 Election

 

[PoliticalChic]

So should Mexicans in the USA illegally be receiving medical procedures in the USA that they could not get in Mexico, and should an illegal immigrant get free food in the USA.

The question if you say yes that they should is, why the fuck do you pay for food and medical care?

Democrats are retarded

They should receive nothing beyond emergency care. Especially, Plyler v. Doe should be overturned.

Reagan made sure everyone had healthcare....even illegal aliens:

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) is a federal law that requires anyone coming to an emergency department to be stabilized and treated, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay, but since its enactment in 1986has remained an unfunded mandate.
EMTALA // ACEP - American College of Emergency Physicians
EMTALA // ACEP



And....starvation has never.....never...been a problem in this country.

 

[xband]

Much like the roads you drive on and the TV channels you watch, how much did you actually pay for for it to be in existence?

Unlike illegals....I DID help pay for them......and I have insurance so I take responsibility for my actions......

When you get hit head on by a drunken illegal who then goes back to Mexico.....get back to me ...K?

I lost my business due to illegals yet I can't hate you for it..

I am saddened to hear you lost your business due to illegal aliens. Illegal aliens work under the table thus avoiding income tax which legal workers have to pay. Thus the owner of a illegal alien business pays his employee's less that lowers his overhead and wages are by far the biggest chunk of overhead.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What is you reason to constantly attack people?

Usually it's the people who talk freely of giving away everyone else's money ......who are least likely to be charitable.....just sayin

Hit the nail on their heads again,Basic!

Conservatives are far more charitable than Liberals.

1."'Tis the season for giving—and it turns out that conservatives and like-minded welfare skeptics more than hold their own when it comes to charity. So says Arthur C. Brooks in his new book Who Really Cares?: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism.


2. Brooks, a public policy professor at Syracuse University, sums up his own results thusly: Giving is dictated by "strong families, church attendance, earned income (as opposed to state-subsidized income), and the belief that individuals, not government, offer the best solution to social ills--all of these factors determine how likely one is to give."


3. ...those who say they strongly oppose redistribution by government to remedy income inequality give over 10 times more to charity than those who strongly support government intervention, with a difference of $1,627 annually versus $140 to all causes.


4. Brooks finds that households with a conservative at the helm gave an average of 30 percent more money to charity in 2000 than liberal households (a difference of $1,600 to $1,227). The difference isn't explained by income differential—in fact, liberal households make about 6 percent more per year.


5. Poor, rich, and middle class conservatives all gave more than their liberal counterparts. ... "People who do not value freedom and opportunity simply don't value individual solutions to social problems very much. It creates a culture of not giving."


6. In 2004, self-described liberals younger than thirty belonged to one-third fewer organizations in their communities than young conservatives. In 2002, they were 12 percent less likely to give money to charities, and one-third less likely to give blood." Liberals, he says, give less than conservatives because of religion, attitudes about government, structure of families, and earned income.


7. ...young liberals are less likely do nice things for their nearest and dearest, too. Compared with young conservatives, "a lower percentage said they would prefer to suffer than let a loved one suffer, that they are not happy unless the loved one is happy, or that they would sacrifice their own wishes for those they love."


8. "Tangible evidence suggests that charitable giving makes people prosperous, healthy, and happy. And that on its own is a huge argument to protect institutions of giving in this country, as individuals, in communities, and as a nation. We simply do best, as a nation, when people are free and they freely give."


"There's something incredibly satisfying, inherently, about voluntary giving,"...

The Giving Gap

 

[Ted Frazier]

So should Mexicans in the USA illegally be receiving medical procedures in the USA that they could not get in Mexico, and should an illegal immigrant get free food in the USA.

The question if you say yes that they should is, why the fuck do you pay for food and medical care?

Democrats are retarded

They don't receive food stamps.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Obviously not. Taking care of residents of a failing country is only enabling.
Financially, we need to get back on our own feet before helping others.

It's just like an individual, if you keep providing for your kids, they will never strike out on their own and make changes to be self sufficient.

Also you don't bankrupt yourself continuing to try to support someone else, because the only thing that can happen is you both wind up in ruins.

Common sense.

That's rather ludicrous, how many infants have their own jobs for self support, and toddlers to 12 years old, how many have jobs to support themselves...

I'm talking about the country as a whole. These kids have parents. I can't believe that everyone in Mexico is unable to take care of themselves. It's the job of the country to get their act together. The US can't protect all the helpless of the world.

Then get rid of the Christian religion..Jesus says you can.

But he stipulates to do so with your own wealth, not someone else's, and certainly not at gunpoint.

There is no support or endorsement of socialism in the Bible.

An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'

"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.

These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.


The motivation to give and share originates in compassion, as 1 John 3:17 indicates—but there is choice involved.

With socialism, it is the opposite.
Redistribution of wealth is always by force of government. The government simply uses its overwhelming power to take what it thinks is “fair” from the “givers.” Is God a Socialist?

Generosity is based on choice....on free will....the cornerstone of Judeo-Christian tradition.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Obviously not. Taking care of residents of a failing country is only enabling.
Financially, we need to get back on our own feet before helping others.

It's just like an individual, if you keep providing for your kids, they will never strike out on their own and make changes to be self sufficient.

Also you don't bankrupt yourself continuing to try to support someone else, because the only thing that can happen is you both wind up in ruins.

Common sense.

That's rather ludicrous, how many infants have their own jobs for self support, and toddlers to 12 years old, how many have jobs to support themselves...

I'm talking about the country as a whole. These kids have parents. I can't believe that everyone in Mexico is unable to take care of themselves. It's the job of the country to get their act together. The US can't protect all the helpless of the world.

Then get rid of the Christian religion..Jesus says you can.

But he stipulates to do so with your own wealth, not someone else's, and certainly not at gunpoint.

Not at gunpoint? Just a locked door when you knock to enter into Heaven.....Let's face it, we all pay taxes for crap we don't like to pay for....Welfare is just one in a long list...So write your Congresscritter and they will ignore you.But trying to degrade a fellow citizen isn't going to get you what you want either..What you all need is anger management class..

Degrading another citizens like being called deplorables? or called racist/bigots or homophobes, now xenophobes. I don't believe you voted for President Trump just like I don't believe that you didn't vote for Obama twice. Liberals have no morals, so why should they feel ashamed when they lie?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So should Mexicans in the USA illegally be receiving medical procedures in the USA that they could not get in Mexico, and should an illegal immigrant get free food in the USA.

The question if you say yes that they should is, why the fuck do you pay for food and medical care?

Democrats are retarded

They don't receive food stamps.

Wrong.

"In this world-turned-upside-down context, let's look at the eligibility rules for Food Stamps, rules that in 46 of the 50 states mean that the U.S. government rewards a household for having an illegal immigrant within it.

As humorist Dave Barry says, I am not making this up.

Such households have a mix of illegals (often parents) and citizens (usually kids); only the citizens are nominally eligible for the benefits of the program, but if groceries purchased by Food Stamps are on the dining room table, the common-sense assumption is that all members of the family will benefit from it.

Yes, all else being equal, a low-income household with one or more illegal aliens in it, is more likely to get Food Stamps than a household with similar income with all members being legally present. In another, related scenario both families are eligible, both have equal incomes, but the one with an illegal alien member seems to get a larger allotment. The Food Stamp Program Rewards Households with Illegal Aliens



"According to the Department of Agriculture, 1.5 million noncitizens received food stamps in the 2015 fiscal year, as did 3.9 million citizen children living with noncitizen adults.

Undocumented immigrants are never eligible for food stamps, though they may live in a “mixed eligibility” household that does receive them. For instance, it’s not uncommon for undocumented parents to apply for assistance on behalf of their citizen children."
Immigrants are going hungry so Trump won’t deport them

 

[PoliticalChic]

Food Stamps do two things:
1. Subsidizes agriculture(every nation does it).

2. Feeds hungry folks..

Good thing food stamps grow on trees and nobody has to actually....you know....PAY FOR THEM

Food Stamps are an abomination of self-determination and designed to keep poor people in perpetual poverty.

1. "The lessons of history … show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit."
   
   These searing words about Depression-era welfare are from Franklin Roosevelt's 1935 State of the Union Address.
2. On Dec. 7, 2012, liberal New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof offered an unexpected concession:
   “This is painful for a liberal to admit, but … America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.”

 

[PoliticalChic]

That's why they do not get welfare, unless they have fake documents..

Which are given out like toilet paper in California, NewYork, Chicago and Oregon.......hmmmmm

"The vast majority of illegal aliens use fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers. They possess fake drivers’ licenses, phony “green cards,” fraudulent birth certificates and any other documents that U.S. citizens and legal residents have. In addition, they falsify I-9 forms under penalty of perjury. Thus, the average illegal alien routinely commits multiple felonies –forgery, Social Security fraud, identity theft, and perjury."
Most illegal aliens routinely commit felonies

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

That's why they do not get welfare, unless they have fake documents..

Which are given out like toilet paper in California, NewYork, Chicago and Oregon.......hmmmmm

"The vast majority of illegal aliens use fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers. They possess fake drivers’ licenses, phony “green cards,” fraudulent birth certificates and any other documents that U.S. citizens and legal residents have. In addition, they falsify I-9 forms under penalty of perjury. Thus, the average illegal alien routinely commits multiple felonies –forgery, Social Security fraud, identity theft, and perjury."
Most illegal aliens routinely commit felonies

But they are here only to work. The typical liberal argument. Cant get more stupid than a liberal.

Food stamp recipient(FSR)?...........................................Gladly gives up taxes to feed FSR...

 

[Wry Catcher]

So should Mexicans in the USA illegally be receiving medical procedures in the USA that they could not get in Mexico, and should an illegal immigrant get free food in the USA.

The question if you say yes that they should is, why the fuck do you pay for food and medical care?

Democrats are retarded

Tuberculous Tomas or Wang Wei? In short, allowing those who enter our country to go without medical care and carry a serious infectious disease is one more stupid idea of the Trumpanzee set.

"Democrats are retarded"? Nay, Trumpanzees are brain dead.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So should Mexicans in the USA illegally be receiving medical procedures in the USA that they could not get in Mexico, and should an illegal immigrant get free food in the USA.

The question if you say yes that they should is, why the fuck do you pay for food and medical care?

Democrats are retarded

Tuberculous Tomas or Wang Wei? In short, allowing those who enter our country to go without medical care and carry a serious infectious disease is one more stupid idea of the Trumpanzee set.

"Democrats are retarded"? Nay, Trumpanzees are brain dead.

"Democrats are retarded"?

Barack Obama Is Bringing Disease to America

News stories have appeared recently about a strange outbreak across the Midwest of Enterovirus D68 (EV-D68), which is related to the common cold but causes severe respiratory illness. The disease has sent a multitude of children to the hospital, with some requiring treatment in intensive-care units. And while the Center for Disease Control (CDC) is blaming the outbreak on “seasonal allergies” and the school year’s start, many critics are asking an obvious question: Is it a coincidence that this outbreak occurred right after the Obama administration allowed tens of thousands of illegal-alien minors to cross our border and then shipped them all over the United States?

I hate shitfucks like you who lie all the time. It was your bi racial, homosexual, Muslim loving, community agitator who brought in the diseased scum of the Earth, allowed them to spread across the nation like a liberal plague, and now you blame this president who has to CLEAN UP THE MESS, that the faggot allowed for 8 years? Fuck you asshole, try again to rewrite history and you will get a smack down again, fucking tard.

 

[Bonzi]

Obviously not. Taking care of residents of a failing country is only enabling.
Financially, we need to get back on our own feet before helping others.

It's just like an individual, if you keep providing for your kids, they will never strike out on their own and make changes to be self sufficient.

Also you don't bankrupt yourself continuing to try to support someone else, because the only thing that can happen is you both wind up in ruins.

Common sense.

That's rather ludicrous, how many infants have their own jobs for self support, and toddlers to 12 years old, how many have jobs to support themselves...

I'm talking about the country as a whole. These kids have parents. I can't believe that everyone in Mexico is unable to take care of themselves. It's the job of the country to get their act together. The US can't protect all the helpless of the world.

Then get rid of the Christian religion..Jesus says you can..Mexico is not the USA it is not the world's superpower...

We are on the way of getting rid of Christianity, not to worry. We are not the slacker nation's whipping boy

 

[Bassman007]

So should Mexicans in the USA illegally be receiving medical procedures in the USA that they could not get in Mexico, and should an illegal immigrant get free food in the USA.

The question if you say yes that they should is, why the fuck do you pay for food and medical care?

Democrats are retarded

Difficult questions. I'd suggest doing a little empathy exercise before making the attempt to answer them.

Who will have empathy when the USA defaults on its 20 trillion dollar debt?

 

[LoneLaugher]

So should Mexicans in the USA illegally be receiving medical procedures in the USA that they could not get in Mexico, and should an illegal immigrant get free food in the USA.

The question if you say yes that they should is, why the fuck do you pay for food and medical care?

Democrats are retarded

Difficult questions. I'd suggest doing a little empathy exercise before making the attempt to answer them.

Who will have empathy when the USA defaults on its 20 trillion dollar debt?

We won't. And if we did. It wouldn't be due to feeding some hungry people or curing some sick people.

Try that empathy thing. It clears up so much of the haziness.